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The Forest tactic seems to be working, at least this season. Overspend on Premier standard players, get a points deduction for the overspending but the said players have been good enough to absorb the deduction and you stay up. Bit of a gamble but underspending or going into the Premier League with minor tweaking to your Championship squad is a recipe for immediate relegation.
What a strange situation football is in.
yeah it's a strange situation, the gap between the premier League and championship is increasing all the time, I think in a couple of years it'll be defacto a closed shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
lower level premier league clubs are financially outspending some traditional European giants these days. the whole system should be overhauled for the good of the sport.
Totally agree 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Therein lay the main problem with our two failed sojourns in the Premier. Though the second one also called for a Leeds' approach of replacing the manager upon promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
A former Cardiff City director told me back in June 2012 that he and the rest of the board believed the Premier League would effectively become a closed shop within a couple of years. He reckoned that if Cardiff, or any other Championship club for that matter, was unable to secure promotion to the top flight by 2014 at the latest, then they never would as the increase in parachute payments would ensure that anyone who got relegated from the Premier League would be certain to go straight back up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
This was one of his and his fellow directors' justifications for accepting Vincent Tan's rebrand.
I have no doubt the individual concerned believed what he was saying, but it was, of course, bollocks.
I still remember all the talk about last season’s Championship being such a strong league with Leicester described as the greatest ever Championship team. Go forward a year and the three promoted teams in what was supposed to be the best Championship ever are going to be relegated with what has to be the lowest combined number of points in the history of the Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Sadly, it may be getting to the stage where the Forest approach will be the only way promoted clubs will be able to stay up - this can’t be good for football and I can only see the situation getting worse in years to come. However, Leeds are a big enough team to stand a chance of bucking the trend, but I reckon Burnley and whoever wins the Play offs will be relegated by this time next year (ie with weeks of the Premier League left to go).
Next season will be interesting. I assume the playoff winners will come straight back down but I'm curious as to how Burnley will get on with how solid their defence has been this season. Leeds, who knows, they might be ok with a bit of money spentQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We are 100% going down. There hasn't been any fighting spirit and even if there was we are shite.
But apart from that, we've got every chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
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Thing is, you're now looking at one of the non-promoted teams to have a really shocking year in able to be able to stay up. West Ham, Wolves are both big clubs backed by money, maybe you hope a Brighton, Brentford or Bournemouth start replacing some of the players they sell on every year with lesser quality. Everton seem to have stablized and will have the new stadium and owners giving them money to spend, United and Spurs aren't realistic candidates to ever go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I understand people have been saying the Prem will be a closed shop for a long time but it does feel like it's finally close to happening. The Forest model really is the only way, spend what these Prem teams have been spending for years in one offseason and pray to god you don't get it wrong or you might not have a club in 3-4 seasons. Southampton only conceded 24 goals last season and have barely avoided going down with a record low points total, no matter how good Burnley's defense has looked in the Championship they have no hope of staying up unless they spend.
Must admit, for even the most optimistic, risk taking, looking for a challenge punter, those odds are terrible. At this stage, after watching what I have this season, we should be at least 16/1 to stay up.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I really wouldn’t get your hopes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
Even the most optimistic fans have accepted our fate.
Hi Bobby, I think the reason I asked the question was for a purely selfish reason.
Me and my boy bought tickets for the Norwich game, on the ridiculous notion that we would beat Oxford , and it would somehow mean something.
Stranger results have happened...remember halfway down Div 3 Cardiff City beating runaway Premier leaders Dirty Leeds on that glorious January evening?
Genuinely i was far more confident that team would beat leeds than i am about the current crop doing anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
I thought we'd be lucky to get into their half, let alone penalty area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Yea those odds aren't any value. I'd want more just for us to win both matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Did we get into their half? The last three times we’ve played Leeds we’ve just sat back and tried to keep the score down - even before Bagan was sent off in this season’s game down here, we were scared stiff of them. They’re good, but not that good. Then again, we’re played eight, lost eight against the top four this season, yet the thing those games prove is that it’s not just our results that stink, it’s our attitude as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
That team had some balls, and I don’t mean the type they get paid a fortune for failing at now either.Quote:
Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead
Was talking about the FA Cup game Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson