Cardiff is a bigger city than Bradford. It is not a debate. I know both cities extremely well, Bradford isn't a big city at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
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Cardiff is a bigger city than Bradford. It is not a debate. I know both cities extremely well, Bradford isn't a big city at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
And I know Nottingham and Newcastle very well. Both of which feel considerably bigger than Cardiff. Yet neither cracks the elusive top 9Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Nottingham isn’t that big? Population 330,000, that’s probably anywhere between 50 and 100,000 less than Cardiff these days. Two clubs and plenty big ones close by like Leicester, Coventry and Derby…. we have virtually nothing and if you consider little old Welsh Wigan then nothing at all reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
It's not as simple as populations. They typically refer to local authorities which in few cases represent the Urban areas of cities. For example Penarth isn't in Cardiff even though you cross a bridge and are in it and it's closer to the city than St Mellons.
So urban areas are a better judge, but thats also not that helpful - South Hampshire for examples dumps Portsmouth and Southampton together. It includes under Leicester, towns that most definitely are not part of Leicester and would vociferously not want to be!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...United_Kingdom
The reality is its actually a pretty complicated thing to work out. Urban area is a factor, catchment area is a factor too. So Merthyr, 20 or so miles from Cardiff is in ours, but Wigan, 20 or so miles from Liverpool isn't in there's.
Then we need to consider how many other teams there are, so Sheffield gets cut in two for example. And do we actually include Merthyr in our catchment area? Or does that come under Merthyr Town FC? What about Newport? Did we lose them when they got back in the football league? And what of Plymouth and Cornwall? Should they support Plymouth cos they happen to be the nearest team, even though they may be a couple of hours drive away and in a different county?
Then you also need to think how many other professional sports teams there are really, Bradford has the City and the Bulls. We have double that, and the national rugby and football teams (I know a few people who get their sporting fix by watching 2-3 international games a year, who presumably in other cities would get that fox by watching their local league team). There's loads to do in Cardiff. Less so in Sunderland or Preston.
Cardiff is a medium-large city with a large catchment area and as the only professional football club for some distance around I think it's fair to say we are a pretty big club potentially with a large geographic area to pull from.
On that basis, generally, in my lifetime at least, I think we have significantly underperformed support wise.
Having lived in Nottingham, it definitely feels smaller than CardiffQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev