Todays Budget

Only ccmb could turn 'economy in a better position than we thought' into 'grrr labour lying'.

The media spent months invoking doom and gloom every time some kind of macro indicator didn't hit a forecast precisely because reeves left herself with so little headroom that she was going to miss her rules, it's hardly surprising she's seeking a bit more.

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

Only ccmb could turn 'economy in a better position than we thought' into 'grrr labour lying'.

The media spent months invoking doom and gloom every time some kind of macro indicator didn't hit a forecast precisely because reeves left herself with so little headroom that she was going to miss her rules, it's hardly surprising she's seeking a bit more.

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You aren’t trying to defend her are you? Seriously? WTF

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Originally Posted by goats

You aren’t trying to defend her are you? Seriously? WTF

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I just don't care about this orchestrated outrage about every single thing. British politics has become the Hollyoaks for old men.

What are you actually suggesting she's done wrong? Don't paste an article, just explain it why you specifically are angry.

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

I just don't care about this orchestrated outrage about every single thing. British politics has become the Hollyoaks for old men.

What are you actually suggesting she's done wrong? Don't paste an article, just explain it why you specifically are angry.

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Apart from failing to initiate a Wealth Tax I don't think she has done too much wrong. However the fiscal drag is a concern for lower earners and specifically with regard to the State Pension. I think a just and common sense solution would be to exempt from paying tax all people whose only income is from the SP.

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

I just don't care about this orchestrated outrage about every single thing. British politics has become the Hollyoaks for old men.

What are you actually suggesting she's done wrong? Don't paste an article, just explain it why you specifically are angry.

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Uh she lied, making out there was a £20 billion pound defecit to justify tax hikes, yiu stupid ?

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

I just don't care about this orchestrated outrage about every single thing. British politics has become the Hollyoaks for old men.

What are you actually suggesting she's done wrong? Don't paste an article, just explain it why you specifically are angry.

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I can personally introduce you to some of the so called angry men you constantly talk about if you want? Thing is, there not angry, they just work hard and have done 5/6 days a week since they were 16. Was in another house full of them last week, used to be prime Labour voters from big estates around Cardiff. Not anymore though…..too many lies, not enough support. You will never get it though so no point wasting anymore time on you, dorc or sludge…

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Originally Posted by Eric Cartman

Only ccmb could turn 'economy in a better position than we thought' into 'grrr labour lying'.

The media spent months invoking doom and gloom every time some kind of macro indicator didn't hit a forecast precisely because reeves left herself with so little headroom that she was going to miss her rules, it's hardly surprising she's seeking a bit more.

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Give your head a wobble!

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Originally Posted by goats

Uh she lied, making out there was a £20 billion pound defecit to justify tax hikes, yiu stupid ?

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Do you have a quote?

I remember the press gleefully talking about the black hole she had 'created' and her speech about hard choices at the budget but I haven't seen a direct quote where she has specifically lied, might have missed it, if I have I accept the kicking.

I think the likelihood is she wanted to increase income tax to increase her headroom vs future OBR forecast and was internally blocked from doing so, her speech was setting that out and the press just ran and ran with it.

I think the OBR is probably at the end of its journey.

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Originally Posted by goats

I can personally introduce you to some of the so called angry men you constantly talk about if you want? Thing is, there not angry, they just work hard and have done 5/6 days a week since they were 16. Was in another house full of them last week, used to be prime Labour voters from big estates around Cardiff. Not anymore though…..too many lies, not enough support. You will never get it though so no point wasting anymore time on you, dorc or sludge…

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I constantly talk about angry men? I didn't even talk about angry men in the post you quoted, I said you sounded angry, and you have kind of proved you are since.

Good, I'm glad you have a little support group going, would you like me to do a bulk order of flags for you and the boys?

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Apart from failing to initiate a Wealth Tax I don't think she has done too much wrong. However the fiscal drag is a concern for lower earners and specifically with regard to the State Pension. I think a just and common sense solution would be to exempt from paying tax all people whose only income is from the SP.

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Yeah fiscal drag just feels like a country in decline but really it's a sign that the British public are stupid, they accepted frozen thresholds for years but would lose their shit at the thought of a 1% rise on all bands.

I guess the so called mansion tax is a wealth tax of sorts. Would much rather they pull their finger out and sort council tax bands out properly, call it something else, assign some of it to flat local services (like bins etc where everybody has one) and fund other services like social care and send centrally rather than continuing the status quo. It's another completely broken system left to rot by the establishment (the actual one, not the pretend one living in right-wing heads)