So we plan to let EU and US citizens in from Monday if they are double jabbed, but the yanks are still not letting anyone in? How is that fair and just?:shrug:
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So we plan to let EU and US citizens in from Monday if they are double jabbed, but the yanks are still not letting anyone in? How is that fair and just?:shrug:
Perhaps Biden doesn't want the bodies to pile high.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
They already did over there didn’t they? But he’s happy for them to come here…..weirdQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez
The Delta Variant is now in the US, the CDC said that it accounts for something between 80 and 90% of new casesQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez
so by keeping the borders closed is just harming the Tourism Industry
its all very strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
A US citizen can travel to the UK, see the sights, jump back on a plane and back home to the US
What is the difference to a UK citizen going on holiday to the US ? ? ?
The UK have the bufoon and co??Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Is the US suddenly fine cause Biden is in control? I quite like him but it takes time to change things from being like a lunatic asylumQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I don’t think the American tourists are coming over to meet bo jo though, I really doubt he will be hanging outside Buckingham palaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
No idea on Biden. Got to be better than the loon before him.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
As you say crazy place wouldnt lose sleep about not being allowed there.
The difference is that we will let them in but they won't let us in. Easy!Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Oh come on! Since when has the USA been fair or just in its foreign policy, or its treatment of non-US people?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Shock horror the figures have been fudged all along
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-misleading/
This has been the Telegraph's narrative from the start. As they are behind a paywall, I wonder if they have actual evidence to back up their claims this time? They usually fall short on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
It's our version of Brexit. You lot wanted to be alone. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Ah, The good old Torygraph. Paragon of rightwing bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Aren't we due a statement of intent from the drunk in the Senedd soon?
If he intends to open up on the 7th he is leaving confirmation a bit late isn't he?
Its Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Couldn't make it much later could he? That's the 6th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
You mean as opposed to the Gardian being a paragon of left wing bullshit?Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Gardian:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Good ppt summary of latest evidence from the CDC:
https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.c...f75165.#page=1
The Grauniad is a well-known centrist newspaper. There aren't many centrist/"left wing" news outlet on account of the fact alt-right billionaires pushing their own agendas tend to acquire news outlets.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
The Guardian isn't left wingQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
On restrictions its normally out on the Thursday & the way all these businesses are going on (selling tickets etc) I imagine the decision's already been made
Snot my fault my phone is illiterateQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
It is no more centrist than the Telegraph is. You probably see it that way because it reflects your opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
If the guardian isn't left wing then the telegraph isn't right wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
saw that a few days ago, it was leaked before it was publishedQuote:
Originally Posted by az city
very good presentation, maybe it is what is needed to shock americans into having that Jab, I saw on Foxorlando last night the queues of cars waiting for a jab, seems central fla has decided to get jabbed again
Drakeford said he hoped 85% of adults would be double jabbed by 7th of August but it had been looking like it would be high 83% and now looking more likely to be low 83% instead.
So far we've ruled out incentives for vaccines in Wales but at some point conversation needed about how to reach out to more people.
Might be interesting to note what England was in terms of vaccines on 19th of July (87.5% first doses and 68.2% second doses) and update with Wales on, fingers crossed, 7th of August and Scotland on 9th of August. Will be interesting to see if higher vaccines percentages will prevent "pingdemic" happening.
Will also be interesting to see how Wales goes about following Scotland in using ventilation & CO2 monitors in schools (and other enclosed locations).
And how UK manages to step up support for rest of the world. https://twitter.com/peoplesvaccine calling for "vaccines be freely available to everyone, everywhere", my words now, rather than waiting til they're almost out of date before getting them to developing nations as reported by Will Brown who covers across Africa for The Telegraph.
Ventilation is the key thing in schools. We can't have any more disruption to these kids' education. 4 in 25 not being vaccinated is a terrible stat, and reflects badly on people rather than Government. Uptake is, by all accounts, lower among those who are unemployed or on long-term benefits. Maybe chucking on a few graphic adverts during day-time TV will prompt some to see sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
I saw a report this morning that 2 weeks after unlock in England when they expected numbers to start rising again they in fact appear to be going down.
But unlocking was still a reckless thing to do.
Apologies if this has been posted already but I think this is the best thread to post ist on:
Southport fitness enthusiast, 42, who rejected vaccine, dies of Covid
What a fu*king idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
I just sent this to a mate of mine who hasn’t had it, 46 single parent with an 11 year old that relies on her too
I know. Well done for forwarding. I was just reading that Germany is looking at a vaccine passport system for venues including stadiums. Can't find the link, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
SAGE said unlocking wasn't reckless as long as it wasn't accompanied by immediate dumping of the pandemic habits.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
It then becomes a case of what gets that message over the best. Headlines such as freedom day and initially very confused messaging from UK government (speaking for England) regarding masks probably didn't help.
However, it appears that the more cautious amongst the scientists were wrong for reasons in process of being analysed and therefore it could be argued that Wales and Scotland were too cautious, but really what have we missed? The pingdemic that followed unlocking has put England in a standstill for 10 days so difference is a roughly week and a half. That week and a half had UK government draw up poorly explained rules for isolation exemption which they will then drop by 9th of August.
Next comes focus on ventilation, focus on reaching out to those not yet vaccinated and ensuring better support for developing nations. I went and found the Telegraph thing I referenced earlier and it's that the vaccines soon to be donated by the UK to African nations expire in September so they really need more support than what we're giving.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: It's been confirmed that most <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19 </a> restrictions in Wales will be lifted on Saturday, 7th August. <br><br>�� No limit on people meeting<br>�� Nightclubs can reopen<br>�� Social distancing scrapped<br>�� Face coverings still mandatory in most indoor places, except in hospitality.</p>— Peter Gillibrand (@GillibrandPeter) <a href="https://twitter.com/GillibrandPeter/status/1423388340091510787?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Confirmation ahead of tomorrow's announcement
Bizarre new Green list choices. Poland still on Amber list, yet countries with much higher rates moved to Green, Germany & Rumania. Bulgaria remains on the list despite an infection rate 20x that in Poland.
Percentage of people vaccinated, Poland 48%, Rumania 25%, Bulgaria 12%
No logic!
Unless it’s to visit family etc it’s just not worth going abroad at the moment, what a palaverQuote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
An increase in rate of payment is good for this next stage of covid.Quote:
Covid: Self-isolation payment raised to £750 in Wales: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-58093465
The cash is to support those who cannot work from home, as well as parents and carers with children who have tested positive and are self-isolating.
The increase will take effect from 7 August, Welsh ministers said.
People will be told to isolate by the NHS Wales Test Trace Protect (TTP) service if they have tested positive, have symptoms of coronavirus or are a close contact of someone testing positive and have not been fully vaccinated.
What is the difference between high 83% and low 83%?Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
"Unless it’s to visit family etc it’s just not worth going abroad at the moment, what a palaver"
Yeah im the same, just glad to be going back to relative normal daily life. All our flights and abroad holidays are next year now, cannot be bothered with the hassle this year. Plus our fam down west so enjoying spending a lot of time down there.