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the other bob wilson
Yeah, Citizen’s Nephew has been a good addition to the board and I enjoy reading his stuff - also, my admiration for him has increased having read about his personal circumstances. Dunno what the argument between him and xsnaggle is all about, but the latter’s response at 14.51 comes over really poorly if you read the message he’s replying to.
Try rading all his posts ansd who made snide and 'mental issue' comments first. His mental health thing is a tactic he has usedc in the past.
It is bullshit.
I stand by that!
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xsnaggle
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Citizen's Nephew
You keep mentioning bullying and I really can't help seeing this as projection. I'm certainly not perfectly OK. Far from it and would never presume to suggest that. You do have anger issues and every time you're challenged you get angry whilst protesting you're not. Just get someone to read your posts back to you and give you feedback.
I have had and will have tons of psychotherapy. I can highly recommend it. I know that my posts can sometimes read in a very patronising way - but I explained to you when I first started posting here that I struggle because of severe brain damage (which is why your recent comment was in such poor taste). I hardly use a keyboard because I can't type so use assisted tech. and agonizingly pour over each post because they take so much effort and which has now created a level of OCD.
I spend time trying to help people on here with tech issues, support for mental health, anything really I feel I can help with, If I f*ck up I'll apologise. None of this stuff is the behaviour of a bully is it? Think about this. Even what I'm putting the energy into now, isn't. Think about it.
When I first came on the board I was like a kid in a candy store. I hadn't communicated to strangers online for 10 years, I explained this to you. But only after you'd followed me around on this board in a scarily trolling way to make snide comments and unwelcome/unfriendly comments to other posters about me. You very nearly succeeded in hounding me off. But I'm the bully?
I was really badly affected by it. Fot all kinds of reasons. But I came back and I've tried to build bridges but still you attack me. Why? I think you've got this one wrong xsnaggle and whatever is going on isn't about me or what I say but it's about something else going on.
You're going to have to deal with it. It's painful stuff but it's worth it because I guarantee you're knocking years off your life expectancy by getting this worked up.
I'm a Trekkie. Huge fan. So I genuinely mean it when I say 'Live long and prosper'.
You're b oring me now, I'n not even going to try to read all that crap. I did notice 1 comment though, about foloowing you round and trolling you, I've never done that to anyone and you will struggle to demonstrate it, unless of course you are jirga as well, under another of his 20+ names on here.
Go away and leave me alone, there's a good boy.
:facepalm:
Heavy lunch at Wetherspoon's was it? :hehe:
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xsnaggle
Try rading all his posts ansd who made snide and 'mental issue' comments first. His mental health thing is a tactic he has usedc in the past.
It is bullshit.
I stand by that!
Do you not think that maybe he does have mental health issues (nothing to be embarrassed about by the way), and he's being incredibly brave for putting them on here? Or, do you think he's making it all up?
Oh, just read your angry reply again, yes you think he's lying. Why do you project yourself onto so many posters?
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Citizen's Nephew
Just wanted to say to everyone that I apologise for hijacking this thread to deal with some issues but in my position and the life I lead I'm always going to have to defend myself for my own self-esteem otherwise the mental health fallout can be crushing. I'm drawing a line under this and am not looking for any dialogue but felt I wanted and needed to say something. *signing out of this thread*
No need to apologise mate, it's not the first time xsnaggle has sent a thread off tangent and it won't be the last. If you want to avoid him though (although there really is no need), just stick to the football posts. He doesn't get involved in them at all.
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Citizen’s Nephew is a decent contributor, long may it continue :thumbup:
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goats
Never take anything that seriously on this board mate, it’s just people’s opinions and they all tend to be different. It can be hard sometimes I guess after 20 yrs of posting without changing my username I reckon I’m immune to almost anything anyone says on here….:hehe::thumbup::
Thanks Mr G. Well, I reckon you should develop that immune response and turn it into a vaccine because I'd definitely buy one. You'd make a fortune! :thumbup:
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Yeah, keep posting whatever you like.
Don't be put off by the guy (not) from Azerbaijan. :hehe:
He'll be calling you a "keyboard warrior" at some point.
It's an internet message board: everyone needs to remember that from time-to-time.
Cheers! It's ironic too isn't it? I'm may be the only one who doesn't use a keyboard to post (the occasional one-fingered iPhone attempt is the exception). :thumbup:
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On the 6th of August 2nd dose vaccine rates across nations within the UK were:
Wales: 82.9%
Scotland: 74.5%
England: 73.6%
Northern Ireland: 74.2%
On the 9th of August 2nd does vaccine rates were:
Wales: 83.4% (+0.5%)
Scotland: 75.6% (+1.1%)
England: 74.5% (+0.9%)
Northern Ireland: 75.3% (+1.1%)
At what point do we pick up on the fact that when Drakeford first announced 7th of August as potential Code Zero date he hoped for 85% of adults doubled jabbed but we look a few days off that still with progress definitely slowed?
Is this why Boris Johnson has threatened vaccine passports?
Is this why we're seeing stories such as this in the press? "Hospitalised dad who turned down vaccine urges others to get jab": https://www.thenational.wales/news/1...thers-get-jab/
One jab is good (every nation but Northern Ireland progress has slowed now) but two jabs are needed for higher chance of increased and longer lasting protection.
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Wash DC Blue
You were kind to me last week.
I’d like to return the favour and wish you all the best!!
Appreciated. Very much. :thumbup:
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Allez Allez Allez
No need to apologise mate, it's not the first time xsnaggle has sent a thread off tangent and it won't be the last. If you want to avoid him though (although there really is no need), just stick to the football posts. He doesn't get involved in them at all.
Cheers! He's reached the heady heights of being the first person I've ever put on 'ignore' so I'm hoping he does the same (though my first attempt came up with the message 'you can't ignore yourself!' which I think is positive discrimination!. Anyway, time to move on.
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I wonder if phase 3 of the " show " has started :wave:
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surge
On the 6th of August 2nd dose vaccine rates across nations within the UK were:
Wales: 82.9%
Scotland: 74.5%
England: 73.6%
Northern Ireland: 74.2%
On the 9th of August 2nd does vaccine rates were:
Wales: 83.4% (+0.5%)
Scotland: 75.6% (+1.1%)
England: 74.5% (+0.9%)
Northern Ireland: 75.3% (+1.1%)
At what point do we pick up on the fact that when Drakeford first announced 7th of August as potential Code Zero date he hoped for 85% of adults doubled jabbed but we look a few days off that still with progress definitely slowed?
Is this why Boris Johnson has threatened vaccine passports?
Is this why we're seeing stories such as this in the press? "Hospitalised dad who turned down vaccine urges others to get jab":
https://www.thenational.wales/news/1...thers-get-jab/
One jab is good (every nation but Northern Ireland progress has slowed now) but two jabs are needed for higher chance of increased and longer lasting protection.
There's no doubt that the uptake has slowed amongst younger people. One thing I didn't realise until last month was how difficult it can be to get a jab as a student. One of my grandchildren is in Uni at Bristol and being from Wales was told he would have to go to Cwmbran Vaccination centre for the jab.
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lisvaneblue
There's no doubt that the uptake has slowed amongst younger people. One thing I didn't realise until last month was how difficult it can be to get a jab as a student. One of my grandchildren is in Uni at Bristol and being from Wales was told he would have to go to Cwmbran Vaccination centre for the jab.
Surely, Bristol to Cwmbran which is only 37 miles, with all transport now available and no restrictions, to get vaccinated to benefit your health and those of others isn’t a problem?
I’ve read somewhere that during the midst of the pandemic someone wanted to travel the 42 miles between Cardiff and Brecon for a pack of lamb chops.
It still makes me wonder?
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Jordi Culé
Surely, Bristol to Cwmbran which is only 37 miles, with all transport now available and no restrictions, to get vaccinated to benefit your health and those of others isn’t a problem?
I’ve read somewhere that during the midst of the pandemic someone wanted to travel the 42 miles between Cardiff and Brecon for a pack of lamb chops.
It still makes me wonder?
Two points.
The first regarding students. I gave an example and you seem to think travelling 30+ miles for a jab is OK. I think it's Wales bureaucracy gone mad. Why couldn't he have a jab in Bristol. Multiple that by the number of students studying away from Wales and you can maybe see why there is a degree of inertia amongst the younger group.
My point on travelling to Brecon for meat was related to the stupid Drakeford rules about travelling no more than 5 miles from home. Frank Atherton has since said such local restrictions were not effective.
I said that whilst travelling to Brecon from Cardiff alone in a car I would not be able to catch or pass on the virus. WAG thought the risk was from people moving from area to area and spreading it on arrival so best stay local.
However I was allowed to travel from my home in North Cardiff to Cathays to shop, when at the time, Cathays had one of the highest incidence in Wales, probably related to the student population.
Made no sense then, makes no sense now, and is another example of the dictatorial attitude of our First Minister
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Everytime you defend and justify the Brecon meat issue it looks worse.
I dont get how someone residing as a student in England cant get a jab in England though.
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Looking at the rules in Wales for students from outside Wales if youve registered with a GP the GP will contact you for a jab. If you havent registered if you contact the Local Authority yourself if your not Welsh then a jab will be arranged.
So dont see any issues at all with arrangements for students in Wales.
If the rules in England are different and im not convinced they are I dont see how thats the Welsh Govts fault.
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Looking at the rules in Wales for students from outside Wales if youve registered with a GP the GP will contact you for a jab. If you havent registered if you contact the Local Authority yourself if your not Welsh then a jab will be arranged.
So dont see any issues at all with arrangements for students in Wales.
If the rules in England are different and im not convinced they are I dont see how thats the Welsh Govts fault.
https://thetab.com/uk/bristol/2021/0...to-do-it-46510
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Rjk
Thought so.
Misinformation verbally or by social media is more of an issue than Welsh Govt bureaucracy regarding getting access to or taking a jab.
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Hilts
Thought so.
Misinformation verbally or by social media is more of an issue than Welsh Govt bureaucracy regarding getting access to or taking a jab.
You can say what you like. The fact is that he was invited by the NHS to attend at Cwmbran to get a jab. He also had to go there to get his second shot.
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lisvaneblue
You can say what you like. The fact is that he was invited by the NHS to attend at Cwmbran to get a jab. He also had to go there to get his second shot.
So was he registered to a doctor in Cwmbran?
That would explain why he was invited there as how would they know that he was away at uni in bristol?
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Rjk
So was he registered to a doctor in Cwmbran?
That would explain why he was invited there as how would they know that he was away at uni in bristol?
He has nothing to do with Cwmbran. His home address is in Chepstow.
I just spoke to him on the phone and asked why he didn't go to Bristol as per the communication you referred to. He didn't know about it, and looking into it we note the date of it is is 16 June,. He said term ended on 21 June, so hardly any time to action anyway.
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lisvaneblue
He has nothing to do with Cwmbran. His home address is in Chepstow.
I just spoke to him on the phone and asked why he didn't go to Bristol as per the communication you referred to. He didn't know about it, and looking into it we note the date of it is is 16 June,. He said term ended on 21 June, so hardly any time to action anyway.
Sounds to me as though he wasnt told he had to go to Cwmbran. He was invited to go there from his GP records.
I think its likely he made no effort to find out if he could have one in Bristol ( no critism of him I would probably have waited for my invite as well) and if he had it could have been arranged.
What is clear that students can get their jabs local to their uni.
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Hilts
Sounds to me as though he wasnt told he had to go to Cwmbran. He was invited to go there from his GP records.
I think its likely he made no effort to find out if he could have one in Bristol ( no critism of him I would probably have waited for my invite as well) and if he had it could have been arranged.
What is clear that students can get their jabs local to their uni.
For the record the university correspondence you referenced stated that jabs were available from 23 June. Bristol Uni summer term ended 21 June. If he had stayed in Bristol after that maybe he could have got one, who knows.
The 'invitation' from the NHS for a jab specified Cwmbran Vaccination centre. My other grandson in Cardiff uni also had to have his jabs there.
However, the main thing as far as Im concerned is that they have both been vaccinated.
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https://twitter.com/chrischirp/statu...188929026?s=19
very interesting thread on the current situation with covid in the UK
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Don't understand her comments about cases decreasing in under 20s, when her chart clearly shows cases increasing in all sub-sections of under 20s.
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Don't understand her comments about cases decreasing in under 20s, when her chart clearly shows cases increasing in all sub-sections of under 20s.
tweet 3 charts seem to support that statement
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I thought someone said cases of under 30s were now a greater percentage of cases but we not increasing, just that all the other cohorts were being infected less.
Charts and info about cases numbers often appear to contradict each other.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58300897
More than 80 private Covid travel test providers listed on the government's website will be issued two-strike warnings over misleading prices, (England) Health Secretary Sajid Javid has announced.
A further 57 firms will be removed from the website on Monday, because they either no longer exist or do not actually provide the relevant tests.
But consumer group Which? said that it had warned the government about the problems with private travel test providers six months ago.
"It's welcome news that the government is finally taking responsibility for its list of test providers and carrying out an audit, but it's six months late," Rory Boland, travel editor at consumer association Which?, told the BBC.
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surge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58300897
More than 80 private Covid travel test providers listed on the government's website will be issued two-strike warnings over misleading prices, (England) Health Secretary Sajid Javid has announced.
A further 57 firms will be removed from the website on Monday, because they either no longer exist or do not actually provide the relevant tests.
But consumer group Which? said that it had warned the government about the problems with private travel test providers six months ago.
"It's welcome news that the government is finally taking responsibility for its list of test providers and carrying out an audit, but it's six months late," Rory Boland, travel editor at consumer association Which?, told the BBC.
Was wondering where this thread had gone? Looks like the Ozzies are in the do do, endless lockdown…..Is NZ about to join them?
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goats
Was wondering where this thread had gone? Looks like the Ozzies are in the do do, endless lockdown…..Is NZ about to join them?
many saw the Oz, NZ border lockdowns as the great answer
Yet, little cases mean people are less likely to have the vaccine it seems, so when the virus does get into the country it then runs riot, so have oz / nz just postponed the inevitable ? ? ?
people will still point at little ( or no ) deaths from covid, but the vaccine uptake is low
do they keep the borders closed forever ? ? ? ? or live with localised / national lockdowns for the next X amount of years ( while life in other countries just continues ) ? ? ?
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Same travel story with more colour: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1905904.html
While Scotland and Wales insist on a specific provider, price £68, England simply provides a list of companies. The (England) health secretary, Sajid Javid, described some of them as “cowboys”. Yet here they are, including fly-by-night firms that see travel testing as a get-rich-quick scheme with government backing.
Some destinations ask for a test before travel, usually only for unvaccinated travellers, but many do not. No airline, ferry firm or international train operator will ask you for a Covid certificate unless the destination requires one.
Yet at the government’s official website you are a click away from 01 Alpha Express Testing telling you: “Looking to travel for leisure, work, or educational purposes? You will need to present a Fit To Fly Certificate upon departure from the UK.”
I have asked the firm to remove the claim before too many people assume that an official provider linked from a government site will tell the truth, and waste £85 on an unnecessary test
Earlier in the week I did the same when the Corona Test Centre asserted: “Fit To Fly Test – Required. Mandatory for most flights leaving the UK.” Travellers were invited to spend £129 for a PCR test certificate that was likely to be completely pointless....
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Amazed that no-one has commented on the Channel 4 Doc "Did Covid Leak from a Lab in China?"
Hesitated to post details on here as the resident dolts will probably (and mistakenly once again) think one is endorsing a conspiracy theory.
Seems that the virus may have been found in a bat cave in 2012; the US may be indirectly involved as part of world-wide 'gain of function’ research (chilling) and that the level of safety in the Wuhan lab was BioSafety 2 - the level at which our dental surgeries operate.
I'd post more, but could you handle it?
:-)
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2021/08/d...in-theory.html
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Cyclops
Amazed that no-one has commented on the Channel 4 Doc "Did Covid Leak from a Lab in China?"
Hesitated to post details on here as the resident dolts will probably (and mistakenly once again) think one is endorsing a conspiracy theory.
Seems that the virus may have been found in a bat cave in 2012; the US may be indirectly involved as part of world-wide 'gain of function’ research (chilling) and that the level of safety in the Wuhan lab was BioSafety 2 - the level at which our dental surgeries operate.
I'd post more, but could you handle it?
:-)
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2021/08/d...in-theory.html
Everyone knows about the bat theory dont they?
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blue matt
many saw the Oz, NZ border lockdowns as the great answer
Yet, little cases mean people are less likely to have the vaccine it seems, so when the virus does get into the country it then runs riot, so have oz / nz just postponed the inevitable ? ? ?
people will still point at little ( or no ) deaths from covid, but the vaccine uptake is low
do they keep the borders closed forever ? ? ? ? or live with localised / national lockdowns for the next X amount of years ( while life in other countries just continues ) ? ? ?
Business in Oz and particularly the South Island in NZ are really suffering also, the latter relying heavily on foreign tourists. My kiwi mate reckons loads will go under if they don’t open soon….and now they might have months of lockdown if the Delta variant kicks off
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174 died today. Cornwall have asked people not to go there, and Scotland are muttering about bringing in restrictions again.
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174 died today. Cornwall have asked people not to go there, and Scotland are muttering about bringing in restrictions again.
Well over 3,000 cases in Wales in the figures yesterday (although that was for the previous forty eight hours, not twenty four), 1,300 cases today.
There’s consistently 100 plus people dying in the UK every day now, who are they? Are they all anti vaxers or youngsters who thought there was no need to bother with one? That hardly seems realistic to me and yet the public are being told nothing when previously we were getting things like breakdowns of those who had died by age group all of the time.
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Allez Allez Allez
Cornwall have asked people not to go there
Not going to make a jot of difference, we had friends up from Cornwall last week, they said its rammed, our fav place to eat / drink is booked till end of Oct, not even taking walk-ups, just bookings only
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reading and Leeds Festival this weekend
lets be honest, the youngsters have missed out on 12 months of fun to try and keep us oldies alive
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the other bob wilson
Well over 3,000 cases in Wales in the figures yesterday (although that was for the previous forty eight hours, not twenty four), 1,300 cases today.
There’s consistently 100 plus people dying in the UK every day now, who are they? Are they all anti vaxers or youngsters who thought there was no need to bother with one? That hardly seems realistic to me and yet the public are being told nothing when previously we were getting things like breakdowns of those who had died by age group all of the time.
You can still get the breakdowns on the gov website. Because we have so many people vaccinated it’s mostly old/immunocompromised people who’ve been jabbed.
It’s sounds callous but the daily average is hovering around 100 a day (reported date of death) which isn’t as bad as you’d think when compared to other causes of deaths. Obviously it’s better if we don’t have them but unless it’s get worse I think is what living with Covid looks like for now until we get more of the population vaccinated. Winter and autumn could be a worry but I don’t think we should be rushing to bring back lots of restrictions just yet.
I think seeing the statistics everyday makes us it look terrible but we have to remember 500 people die a day of cancer.
If I’m honest I’m at the point where I’m not sure what the best thing to do is anymore as to me it isn’t obvious besides wearing masks on public transport/in shops what else we should be doing unless we are happy to have restrictions for another few years.
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Business in Oz and particularly the South Island in NZ are really suffering also, the latter relying heavily on foreign tourists. My kiwi mate reckons loads will go under if they don’t open soon….and now they might have months of lockdown if the Delta variant kicks off
I think they’re victims of their own success and delta has sort of ****ed them a bit because it’s harder to stop the spread.
But I’d rather be in their position. The only thing they messed up on really is they don’t have the supply of vaccines yet. Vaccine uptake in oz and NZ isn’t low they just don’t have the supply yet, it’s starting to ramp up and once they hit 80% or adults fully vaccinated they’ll relax travel slightly.