The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

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Originally Posted by City123

Same guy just said its 2-0 and is raving about Tankiewicz. Him and Perrett with the goals

Amazingly still feels like a reasonably young u21 side, Pearce the only one who is 21? Certainly seems more worthwhile than when we'd have a large group of players seemingly brought in to play for the u21s/23s at the top end of that age range

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Think one or two of the players brought in from other clubs this summer may be 20/21.

The goalkeeper Higgs is very young as well apparently.

BBM said something interesting last week when he said that quite often at clubs where you get a kind of golden generation come through like we had with the group that formed such a big part of the successful Wales under 17 squad, you then get a few quiet years when nothing much comes through, but it’s not like that here. It’s very encouraging that that the Welsh under 16 squad named last week had six City players in it.

What happened to Matthew Apter, Is he involved with the first team or injured?

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Originally Posted by City123

Same guy just said its 2-0 and is raving about Tankiewicz. Him and Perrett with the goals

Amazingly still feels like a reasonably young u21 side, Pearce the only one who is 21? Certainly seems more worthwhile than when we'd have a large group of players seemingly brought in to play for the u21s/23s at the top end of that age range

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Finished 3-0 - Tankiewicz got a second.

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Originally Posted by Butterwick Blue

What happened to Matthew Apter, Is he involved with the first team or injured?

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He got what sounded like quite a serious injury - think it might have been in the game at Merthyr.

Thanks Bob

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

BBM said something interesting last week when he said that quite often at clubs where you get a kind of golden generation come through like we had with the group that formed such a big part of the successful Wales under 17 squad….

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Who was in that squad and what success did they achieve? Not a rhetorical question, I haven’t got a clue about the Welsh youth teams.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Who was in that squad and what success did they achieve? Not a rhetorical question, I haven’t got a clue about the Welsh youth teams.

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First Welsh age group squad to qualify for a major finals tournament since the early 80s and they did it again in the next tournament. From memory, City supplied eight of the squad first time around and six or seven second time - there were also players like Biancheri, Crew and Benjamin who’d left us at 16 to sign for Premier League clubs in the first squad (not sure Biancheri was in the second squad).

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

First Welsh age group squad to qualify for a major finals tournament since the early 80s and they did it again in the next tournament. From memory, City supplied eight of the squad first time around and six or seven second time - there were also players like Biancheri, Crew and Benjamin who’d left us at 16 to sign for Premier League clubs in the first squad (not sure Biancheri was in the second squad).

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Have any of them gone on to do anything significant?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Have any of them gone on to do anything significant?

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They're all still teenagers

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Originally Posted by City123

They're all still teenagers

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Got it. So, in truth, we’ve no idea if they are a golden generation or not. That phrase is daft in my opinion, and it gets used far too freely.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Got it. So, in truth, we’ve no idea if they are a golden generation or not. That phrase is daft in my opinion, and it gets used far too freely.

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Pretty much, though you could argue they were a golden generation for Wales youth by qualifying back to back, something Wales hadn't done at any age grade before. They then got close to the u19s Euros but got a very tough "Elite round" of England, Portugal & Turkey. As far as seniors goes who knows, the jump from youth to senior football is big at Cardiff & District level nevermind professional football!

They'll probably make up the bulk of the Wales u21 side for the next cycle at the least so we'll see if they can have an impact there and improve our dismal record at that level. That is if they're not involved in the seniors, Crew's been capped already, Lawlor, Kpakio & Kai Andrews all been in a squad

So we'll see. If we could get 4 or 5 regular internationals out of that bunch that would be very good going

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Got it. So, in truth, we’ve no idea if they are a golden generation or not. That phrase is daft in my opinion, and it gets used far too freely.

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That’s why I said a kind of golden generation - it’s the best group the club has had since the Academy was opened in 04/05 in terms of first team appearances already I suspect.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

That’s why I said a kind of golden generation - it’s the best group the club has had since the Academy was opened in 04/05 in terms of first team appearances already I suspect.

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The last time that dreaded phrase was being bandied about was when Morison was here. That didn’t end well for half of the players who were so labelled.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

The last time that dreaded phrase was being bandied about was when Morison was here. That didn’t end well for half of the players who were so labelled.

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This all started because I used the term “a kind of golden generation” as a simple way to summarise what BBM was talking about - i didn’t label it a golden generation. I won’t say he used the term himself because I’m not sure that he did. Whether he did or not though, it was incidental to the point he was making - when a club has a strong group of youth players in one year it can often follow that the groups which come through in subsequent years can be disappointing, but this isn’t the case at City.

Highlights of the under 21's win at Crewe on Monday.

https://tv.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/video...5-69cc480f3e9e

Does anyone know what's happened to Giles, I'm assuming he's injured?

Anyone know why this has been moved to the Alt Forum? Can someone move it back?

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Originally Posted by Sts'ikel

Anyone know why this has been moved to the Alt Forum? Can someone move it back?

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I presume that there is some cleansing to improve Board performance that requires this and other large threads like Glammy to be temporarily moved

This is an important football thread - it has no place in Cranks Corner - move it back

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Originally Posted by Enoch Mort

This is an important football thread - it has no place in Cranks Corner - move it back

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Temporary measure. Deleting some old threads. Didn't want to remove by mistake

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Originally Posted by Sparticus_Mills

Does anyone know what's happened to Giles, I'm assuming he's injured?

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The club put up a very short training vid today. One of the coaches (I think it was Kevin Gibbins) was shouting instructions to ‘Luey’. I didn’t make out Giles in the clip (just watched it once) but I assume it was him - training with the First Team.

Games for the seniors, under 21s and under 18s today. The last named are playing a “derby” game at Wrexham, no news of any score yet.

https://x.com/cf11academy/status/196...654305043?s=61

Under 21s kick off at 1, here’s the team - Giles and Pearce involved tonight?

https://x.com/cf11academy/status/196...765739307?s=61

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Games for the seniors, under 21s and under 18s today. The last named are playing a “derby” game at Wrexham, no news of any score yet.

https://x.com/cf11academy/status/196...654305043?s=61

Under 21s kick off at 1, here’s the team - Giles and Pearce involved tonight?

https://x.com/cf11academy/status/196...765739307?s=61

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No George, Nyakuhwa or Mafico either

Nyakuhwa Is on the bench for the U18’s, unless theres two of them.

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Originally Posted by Butterwick Blue

Nyakuhwa Is on the bench for the U18’s, unless theres two of them.

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there are