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EastbourneBlue
The question is surely whether the current restrictions (or indeed any restrictions in the long run) are achieving anything
Any limiting contacts will have some affect.
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https://twitter.com/GillibrandPeter/...NM2CBfQuQ&s=19
Looks like there probably won't be any real changes for at least 2 weeks
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This obsession with Wales largest pub being open in February.
If they do open it then ban the sale of booze.
Thousands of pissed up people queing at bars vomiting throwing beer about isnt the best thing after restrictions.
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Hilts
This obsession with Wales largest pub being open in February.
If they do open it then ban the sale of booze.
Thousands of pissed up people queing at bars vomiting throwing beer about isnt the best thing after restrictions.
I'd be interested to see how many fewer people would buy tickets if you couldn't buy booze inside
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Eric the Half a Bee
No, we need to make sure the number of cases doesn't skyrocket. Imagine what would happen if double the number of people were being infected? More and more people would be isolating and not working, essential services would be hit even harder. There's still a need for some caution.
Stop talking sense.
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Hilts
Any limiting contacts will have some affect.
Is it therefore fair to assume that once the dust settles Wales’ stats will look better than England’s? The stats which matter - serious illness.
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EastbourneBlue
Is it therefore fair to assume that once the dust settles Wales’ stats will look better than England’s? The stats which matter - serious illness.
Well there will eventually be an enquiry into the handling of the pandemic.
Many factors will be looked at.
Low vaccination rates in areas , appalling disregard of rules by ministers giving a us and them attitude , furlough availability , late lockdowns , delays of resticting international travel , PPE , previous austerity and whether the NHS was sufficiently funded and staffed for a pandemic and the individual actions of each parliament.
Also where the higher death rates are and where. Care Homes , poorer more built up areas.?
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Rjk
This is exactly the kind of data that's relevant. The media's obsession with numbers of +ve cases stems from the early days of the pandemic.
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Hilts
Natural selection in action. I've lost count of the number of posts highlighting this including the myths about age etc. I think that moving forward, we should move away from politicians fronting public health campaigns. They're unqualified, inappropriate, and misleading.
Edit: not a critique of your post btw - it's really interesting and glad you posted :thumbup:
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If I’m being thick then I apologise.
What I see here is that Wales’ hospitalisations per million were well below England’s, then the Boxing Day restrictions came in and they’ve gone up ever since.
Now England is going down and Wales is going up.
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Another significant drop.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...eaths-22711554
Time for crowds back. I really dont see the justification on us playing behind closed doors.
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Nevermind that people are losing their livliehoods and businesses, the cases that have a mortality rate of 0.3% are dropping.
Yay.
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-soon-22712137
Not holding out much hope reading this.
The obsession of the 6 Nations as well.
Why dont the journalists ask about the games we have before then. Obsession with the commencement of the annual 2 month piss up.
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Hilts
Time for crowds back. I really dont see the justification on us playing behind closed doors.
There never was any.
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Hilts
Because like it or not the money the six nations brings to the local economy dwarfs all the other games and is of significant importance to the Cardiff hospitality trade. I imagine the six nations taking place with with / without crowds and other restrictions in pubs, restaurants.etc will have an effect on wether some businesses go under or not.
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...tions-22703861
Well said this man. My daughter hasnt had a shift since before Xmas in the pub she works. Luckily its just a part time job for her alongside her studies and she doesnt have bills to pay, plus im in a position to give her some of the money shes missing out on, but what about the hospitality workers with bills to pay? mouths to feed? Heartbreaking.
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Ooooooh a brave Labour MP
A WELSH Labour MS has said unvaccinated people should be denied access to events and venues when current Covid restrictions are lifted.
Alun Davies has said those rejecting the assistance of vaccination should face consequences of their decision.
The Member of Senedd for Blaenau Gwent shared a news story about the introduction of tougher restrictions on the unvaccinated in Italy and said he would like to see similar measures in Wales.
He told his more than 11,000 Twitter followers: “I hope that the Welsh Govt will use our covid passes in this way to reduce regulations when the time is right for everyone who is fully vaccinated.”
The headline of the news story he shared read: “Unvaccinated people banned from public transport, coffee shops and gyms in Italy.”
Will he backing Ikeas decision to cut sick pay for unvaccinated staff who need to self-isolate because of Covid and in some cases for workers who test positive.
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J R Hartley
Because like it or not the money the six nations brings to the local economy dwarfs all the other games and is of significant importance to the Cardiff hospitality trade. I imagine the six nations taking place with with / without crowds and other restrictions in pubs, restaurants.etc will have an effect on wether some businesses go under or not.
Fair points. No crowds or moving the games would have a huge impact particularly hospitality , hotels and other accommodation.
Though with Scotland allowing crowds I just wish these journos would be pushing for Wales to follow suit before the 6 Nations.
The answer that they cant even guarantee that doesn't look good for all those wanting to watch live sport before February and the businesses affected by the current restrictions.
I think its highly likely that crowds will be back for the 6 Nations anyway.
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The Lone Gunman
There never was any.
There was.
It was just so risk adverse as a strategy it really just looks stupid.
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...tions-22714240
Drakeford: "We'll look to relax Covid restrictions next week if Omicron wave peaks in Wales"
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life on mars
Ooooooh a brave Labour MP
A WELSH Labour MS has said unvaccinated people should be denied access to events and venues when current Covid restrictions are lifted.
Alun Davies has said those rejecting the assistance of vaccination should face consequences of their decision.
The Member of Senedd for Blaenau Gwent shared a news story about the introduction of tougher restrictions on the unvaccinated in Italy and said he would like to see similar measures in Wales.
He told his more than 11,000 Twitter followers: “I hope that the Welsh Govt will use our covid passes in this way to reduce regulations when the time is right for everyone who is fully vaccinated.”
The headline of the news story he shared read: “Unvaccinated people banned from public transport, coffee shops and gyms in Italy.”
Will he backing Ikeas decision to cut sick pay for unvaccinated staff who need to self-isolate because of Covid and in some cases for workers who test positive.
Dictating what people can or can't do due to a PERSONAL CHOICE they've made. Dangerous and downright disgusting.
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UNDERHILL1927
Dictating what people can or can't do due to a PERSONAL CHOICE they've made. Dangerous and downright disgusting.
Why?
I know a few people who have made a personal choice not to learn to drive, pass a test or obtain a licence. I have no concerns with the government's stance that they should be prevented from driving a car on the roads. Safer for all that way!
Their choice though!
Maybe I'm just not a libertarian?
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[QUOTE=the other bob wilson;5263200]Seems like an important study.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-in-air-study[/QUOTE
Feel a Phil Collins song coming on :
I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord
And I've been waiting for this moment, for all my life, oh lord
Can you not feel covid in the air tonight, oh lord, oh lord
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UNDERHILL1927
Dictating what people can or can't do due to a PERSONAL CHOICE they've made. Dangerous and downright disgusting.
That personal choice could impact on other people, that’s dangerous and downright disgusting. Selfish people who should be facing the consequences of their personal choice.
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splott parker
That personal choice could impact on other people, that’s dangerous and downright disgusting. Selfish people who should be facing the consequences of their personal choice.
How? If they pass it onto a vaccinated person then they’ve been vaccinated so shouldn’t require hospital treatment. Or so we are told.
Besides, people are still catching it and passing it on vaccinated or not. I’ve been jabbed 3 times and I’m now thinking why bother when apparently it’s only effected for 10 weeks.
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J R Hartley
How? If they pass it onto a vaccinated person then they’ve been vaccinated so shouldn’t require hospital treatment. Or so we are told.
Besides, people are still catching it and passing it on vaccinated or not. I’ve been jabbed 3 times and I’m now thinking why bother when apparently it’s only effected for 10 weeks.
I’m playing the odds, I don’t want it regardless of my vaccination status, I reckon I’ve more chance of catching it from someone who’s unprotected. I want to be in a pub/football ground/ shop etc knowing that all the people there are vaccinated. Same as when driving, I’d like to think my fellow road users have passed a test and are legal. Also if, as you say, even though I’m vaccinated and boosted I could still catch it I would be horrified if I unknowingly passed it on to an anti vaxxer who, through catching it off me, paid the ultimate price.
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J R Hartley
How? If they pass it onto a vaccinated person then they’ve been vaccinated so shouldn’t require hospital treatment. Or so we are told.
Besides, people are still catching it and passing it on vaccinated or not. I’ve been jabbed 3 times and I’m now thinking why bother when apparently it’s only effected for 10 weeks.
6 months isn’t it? Currently working on an annual one I believe but if omicron is no more than a rough cold, if that, then there may well be no need. We’ve never had a cure for a cold have we, do we need one?
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the other bob wilson
Ive just given up.
Its always thrown up by Tory boys in Labour voting areas that put a monkey in a red rosette and they will win.
The same people time and again back the bufoon and co.
Replicated around the country im sure. I was watching Question Time they other day Lisa Nandy and the audience absolutely leathered the utterly useless Tory MP. Audience members actually clapped Nandy laughed at the Tory clown at one stage. Audience members when questioned ridiculed him praised Nandy but several said they were no Labour voters.
Weve no chance. Poor Boris difficult times blah blah blah.
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Boris Johnston during PMQ today: has finally admitted that he was involved in the infamous garden party in May 2020 and apologises but says he didn't realise that it was a party and we must wait for the official inquiry report. You couldn't make it up.
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Three port workers in Dalian, China have been sentenced to nearly five years in prison for not wearing masks and protective clothing while handling cargo.
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life on mars
Three port workers in Dalian, China have been sentenced to nearly five years in prison for not wearing masks and protective clothing while handling cargo.
100 tory tw@ts are lucky they dont live in China.
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life on mars
Ooooooh a brave Labour MP
A WELSH Labour MS has said unvaccinated people should be denied access to events and venues when current Covid restrictions are lifted.
Alun Davies has said those rejecting the assistance of vaccination should face consequences of their decision.
The Member of Senedd for Blaenau Gwent shared a news story about the introduction of tougher restrictions on the unvaccinated in Italy and said he would like to see similar measures in Wales.
He told his more than 11,000 Twitter followers: “I hope that the Welsh Govt will use our covid passes in this way to reduce regulations when the time is right for everyone who is fully vaccinated.”
The headline of the news story he shared read: “Unvaccinated people banned from public transport, coffee shops and gyms in Italy.”
Will he backing Ikeas decision to cut sick pay for unvaccinated staff who need to self-isolate because of Covid and in some cases for workers who test positive.
Another unattributed LoM copy and paste job. Source: https://www.thenational.wales/news/1...-consequences/
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https://youtu.be/A5s433aTy98
Bumping this to lighten the mood
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Taunton Blue Genie
Posted by moi on this very thread two days ago! :shrug::hehe: