Flood myths are found in many ancient cultures. They often share themes and plots. The story of Noah is the most well known but by no means the earliest.
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Flood myths are found in many ancient cultures. They often share themes and plots. The story of Noah is the most well known but by no means the earliest.
Nakedness,Temptation and The Garden of Eden; boatbuilding in preparation for the Deluge; The Commandments; the concept of a Messiah; Heaven and Hell; the Jonah story; The Son of God; the Virgin birth etc etc etc. They were all filched from previous religions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
It's absolutely fascinating folklore.
In my experience, most Christians seem to have hardly any knowledge of the various compilations of their holy books and how parts of them have been added, filtered out and censored by ecclesiastical authorities as time has progressed. And of where many of the stories came from.
In English yes. But I'm not talking colloquially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Globally dates are measured in time as before or after Christ
Llandudno this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq-u...ature=youtu.be
Where was that taken, The Great Horn?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
You wouldn't think so many kids would be acting the goat at a time like this, would you? The silly Billys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
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-We'll increase tests to 10k a day
Govt - Mar11
-We'll increase tests to 25k a day
Boris Johnson Mar19
-We've reached 10k tests a day
Michael Gove Mar29
'Actual number around 7k'
-Helen Whately Mar30
'We'll rapidly expand testing'
-Dominic Raab Mar30
'We'll do 25k tests a day - by end April
-Govt Mar31
It's shortage chemicals
-Gove Mar31
(Paul Johnson: https://twitter.com/paul__johnson)
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See what has happened here ? Hugh pym asks a simple question of why not enough testing for nhs staff and he gets a long winded reply from Health chief about why testing is important. Which ends with the words “ramp up” . Hugh knows all this. We all know all this
(Emily Matlis: https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/1245024097257558016)
The UK government also said not in EU scheme to purchase ventilators because email wasn't seen despite being in four meetings where scheme was discussed. It's not about left or right, it's a government that has repeatedly misinformed public, avoided scrutiny, or challenged legitimacy of press asking questions and now is doing so with people's lives at risk.Quote:
@michaelgove said just now that the difficulty in increasing number of #COVID19 tests was due to a shortage of the relevant "chemcial reagents". Well I've just talked to the Chemical Industries Association, which represents the UK's very substantial chemicals industry. It has contacted its members, and they've said there is no shortage of the relevant reagents. So the Association has now been in touch with @michaelgove's office to find out what he means, because it is stumped.
(Robert Preston: https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1245046542974750720)
You are wrong about describing such usage (and which occurs in many languages) as being colloquial. You will find that many of the terms are formal. However, it all matters not as all such terms and indeed the years numbers we use (and which are measured differently in the world of Islam) mean absolutely nothing as far as verifying a deity. It just reflects the influence of the Roman Empire, as I stated in another context. Two months ago it was the month of January but it hardly proves that J**** existed.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
A man was walking on the Brecon Beacons today and he met God. He asked God what he was doing on the Beacons. God said "I'm working from home today".
**** off and take your non-existent god with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
https://giphy.com/gifs/comic-vine-yoda-G4ZNYMQVMH6usQuote:
Originally Posted by az city
What happened to this thread?
God knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Organ Morgan has had some, though it's hard to say that is undeserved!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Typical of the nanny state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Lewis Goodall: https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...22087452397568Quote:
Deborah Birx, White House Covid task force just openly pitied UK ventilator capacity: “We’re worried about groups all around the globe...they have 8000 ventilators in the UK. If you translate that to the US that would be equivalent to us having 40000 ventilators. We have 5x that”
To recap, special relationship in an...unusual place: Trump spent five minutes lamenting what he said was Britain’s herd immunity strategy and one of his principal scientific advisers openly lamented our lack of ventilators.
Our herd immunity strategy was ridiculous but trump was calling this a hoax a month ago and a simple flu 2 weeks ago so not sure he's the right person to pass judgement.
I think the existence or God is a relevant side debate to have within a thread about a pandemic that's causing thousands of deaths per day. It'll get back on track :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
To bring the thread back on track:
Do we think we should be allowed to go about our daily lives as normal as it's only people who are already a bit ill who are dying in their hundreds per week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Should we ignore that this would overwhelm the health service until even non corona suffers are dying (they were already ill anyway!)
Should we ignore the fact that a non insignificant percent of people get irrepariable lung damage from coronavirus?
Speaking to a colleague in Denmark this morning they are planning a gradual easing of restrictions after Easter.
Denmark went in to lockdown 3 weeks ago before any deaths from the disease and there have since been 90 deaths in the country overall. These have stabilised to around 10 per day over the last week or so.
It's ok though, it's not really a virus.
Piers Corbyn has claimed that a Telecoms executive stated covid-19 is in fact the bodies natural reaction to stresses caused by 5G - both Wuhan AND the major cruise ship affected have... 5G.
Still crazy that we didn't do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Yet Imperial College London report claimed we got out timings right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
IMO, if lockdown had been ordered day 1, there would have been mass protests and disobedience. Instead it's been recommended to stay home - as people have then abused it, it's been "locked down". I suspect most Brits will accept that given the "nice" approach being abused. Some will always disobey.
That does make sense. But surely if the government had acted a month earlier we may not have needed such tight restrictions?Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
It isn't just a british problem, a lot of european countries also didn't think it was that much of an issue until people started dying.
I suspect that's more due to the information coming through. WHO back in Jan believed couldn't be transmitted person to person and had a phone call with Lady Gaga...Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Germany have had a large rise in deaths. Someone speculated that their testing may well have focused on the young rather than general population.
I still haven't seen this anywhere, do you have a link? I honestly cannot ever remember hearing that once.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...061554884.html
There's a timeline and it says the WHO were alerted in December/January to a virus. I'm not saying that's spot on but I hadn't heard any different.
Who is Piers Corbyn? Sounds like someone made up the name by chucking two darts at Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
Jan 14th, WHO tweeted "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,".
Looking for the tweet now, presume they haven't deleted it.
If so, it's damning for them taking Chinese authorities at their word with no independent checking.
https://twitter.com/who/status/12170...761152?lang=enQuote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
Yep you're right, it's a shame the Chinese government won't get half the grief they deserve for this.
Piers is the cleverer of the two brothers.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
That's the problem, it imo would have caused massive social disorder and disobediance to have had any semblance of lockdown back in Jan based upon that WHO information, which is what governments would have had to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Even looking at February, people were still trying to get that meaningful information about the transmission and nature of the virus.
Denmark went into lockdown on 11th March. There had only been 8 more deaths in the UK at that time, with the first death in the UK just 5 days prior. There have now (as of yesterday) been 1700 more deaths in the UK than Denmark with the difference currently growing by hundreds each day. Denmark is now considering reopening its economy gradually after Easter.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
Makes you wonder how much of an impact applying restictions here just a couple of weeks earlier would have made.
Makes you wonder how bad it could have been.Quote:
The number of people who have died from coronavirus in the UK has risen by 563 to 2,353 in total, the Department for Health and Social Care has said.
The latest figures mark the biggest day on day increase in the country since the pandemic began.
The Department for Health confirmed this afternoon that 29,474 people have tested positive for coronavirus within the UK - an increase of 4,324 from yesterday. The Department has also clarified that UK's testing capacity is currently 12,799 tests per day.
I think that it was generally expected that this was going to be a bad week in terms of deaths and new cases and, after a few days when it looked like things may be peaking, the last two have been more in line with expectations, Nevertheless, I think I'm right in saying that in places like Italy and Spain the new cases rate was doubling every two or three days at the same sort of stage as we are and that's certainly not happening here lately.
Denmark's population is 5.8m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
UK, at around 66m has higher fatality count than a far, far smaller nation shocker.
What about the rate though? It should be scalable surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
UK death rate = 35/million population, Denmark = 18/million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Can't really compare like for like cases as we don't know Denmark's testing scheme.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Equally, locking down a far smaller nation is a lot "easier".Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dwr
So you believe that just by comparing populations we can conclude that locking down when the UK had only 8 deaths would have made no difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
And do you believe people would have obeyed with just 8 deaths? There are many factors at play, it's overly simplistic and naive to say "ooooh we should've locked down at point X".Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo