They also received the narrative alongside the money, while Lardy & Cyril remained totally oblivious :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
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They also received the narrative alongside the money, while Lardy & Cyril remained totally oblivious :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
About time we got back to discussing money laundering in the Donald Trump thread. Cheers, Mozzer.
Now to join the dots: Florida real estate deals. Inflated values. Russian oligarchs. Cash injection for failing Trump businesses. Totally legal or a swamp of fraud and corruption? Hmmmm….
I've never seen so many fascists in one room!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C86LooG-2kg
And if that’s the best you can come up with, you can’t think of anything either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2BVI9OhC4Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
And still you can’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I'm just here for the show :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/
There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.
I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo
And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.
There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.
But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft
I guess in your World the same could have been said of Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Hannibal Lecter!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
No, that's silly Ducky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Hardly Sweetkins, it's your weird viewQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
God bless CCMB eh, where pointing out an opinion poll is weird and comparing someone to mass murdering maniacs is normal 😅Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
If it makes you sleep at night keep so be itQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Tbf it is a fairly boring poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You’ve changed your tune because you started this strand of the thread when you asserted that Trump really does care for his base who, we’re told, include very many of the downtrodden working class - all I’m doing is asking what has he done for them, not just in his second term, but his first one as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Says the man who has posted more on this thread than anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I felt obliged to correct the record :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Again, it really is up to them, not you or I. There is plenty you can read up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But not withstanding COVID, I gather the economy did alright, wasn't hit by high inflation etc. Theyno doubt like his cultural arguments, perhaps they feel safer, like the focus on the stronger borders etc.
I don't think when you look at it Trump has done that great. But people were pissed with Biden and Trump offered an optimistic vision for many.
Have to see how he does won't we!
wow talk about changing the subject !Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
The USA taxpayers were being taken for a ride . Now DOGE are after the Education department and even the pentagon
Trump now revokes Biden's security clearance with immediate effect mind you i don't agree with that
You arguing about things I’ve not made any comment on in this part of the thread. All I’ve asked is for examples of things TRump’s “base” of working class, underprivileged voters have benefited from during his presidency. Everyone of the days during the past week, I’ve woken up to hear stories about what Trump has said and done as the first story on the news Alexa reads to me - it’s brought back memories of 2017 to 2021 when you’d invariably wake up hearing about what Trump had written on Twitter overnight, there was plenty of sound and fury through those the four years of his first term, but what was actually achieved? Plenty of “trickle down” tax cuts for the richest, but not much else as I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
This story lists 16 things Trump did last week, none of which benefit his so called base I’d say.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjdep9j31l8o
CNN :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Do you think Bernie Sanders would have said something different if he had been interviewed on Fox?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You’ve had a few days to think about it now, so maybe you can name some of the policies Trump has put in place to benefit what’s seen as his core vote as opposed to billionaires, mainly from Silicon Valley?
Have you seen the property he has bought on a government salary? The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks, and he is probably cacking his pants :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
They've got their handbags out!Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Attachment 6434
Of course, the Trump administration isn’t corrupt is it?
Gluey and his mates don’t seem bothered about that. They’ve spent years telling us about one type of corrupt elite that is really running things, but it seems they’re not too bothered about corrupt elites from Silicon Valley unless it’s Bill Gates.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I'm still on the fence, I haven't decided one way or the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
This is the fence that didn’t appear to exist when it came to Trump’s first term and the likes of Gates and Soros is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The matrix is being revealed and you are still hung up on orange man bad? I'm going to let things play out before I take any position, as things can go either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
"the matrix is being revealed"Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I get the impression that some of the trump fans on here are going to be very disappointed how little has actually changed come the end of this presidential term
Clueless to the end, that's you :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
You’ve been saying similar for 5 years to my knowledge 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I was saying Russia collusion was a hoax for 7 years before anybody would believe me. Sometimes you've just got to keep at it :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
Some of us still don’t believe you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The brainwashed ones certainly don't :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
This conversation seems to suggest that after a month in power, some people still thinks Trump is the man for the job, which I find incredulous.
I think it’s the brainwashed ones that do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Granted it was decided on balance there was insufficient evidence (although a lot of evidence) to follow through on the technical/legal charge of collusion.
But a mass of evidence (and a clutch of successful prosecutions) showed the extent to Trump-Putin collaboration.
Take the common usage (not the narrow legal definition of collusion) and there is clear and repeated co-operation, sharing of information and strategies, shared interests, co-ordination of attacks on the back of data theft, and use of supposed third party hacking outfits like the St Petersburg troll farms owned and directed by Putin allies to promote a Trump victory.
At least you claim to be off the fence on this one. Your 7 year campaign to spray perfume on Trump may be in error and a perversion of the truth - but no splinters for you, so maybe some good came of it?
DOGE is cleaning up millions of dollars in fraudulent expenditure, 99.9 % of the fraud has been by the Radical left, there will be Republicans exposed as well. CCMB?, it's ok because the Trump administration must have done it as well. TDS is alive and kicking Yuge on CCMB. FWIW, Farage is being lined up as our next PM and it'll not be down to votes counted in the polling stations, it's already decided by those who pull the levers of power, when will we see Farage proposing the UK equivalent of DOGE?. The illusion of choice continues with the intended division of society to be continued.
STARMER OUT !!!!!!