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Eric Cartman
Starmer performed well. They clearly prepared extensively for that and the one two of Macron (a more natural politician) into Starmer seems to have worked well. Obviously if I look at it at face value it makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit but we have to play the game.
This meeting was about survival, whether they actually end up close enough for Starmer to exert even the tiniest bit of influence over Trump is another matter entirely. I think I've reached the point where I can't see any point in caring about what Trump does domestically so long as his desperate goons (mostly Musk and Vance) quit the stream of fear mongering and interfering in UK politics/society.
As for negativity, one thing I do admire about Trump is how much of a natural he is. I have to admit that I was chuckling at the answer to the 'is zelensky a dictator?' question, where he said 'did I say that? I can't believe I said that'. It's shocking that he can get away with that, it doesn't even *seem* like a U-turn and he was so comfortable answering such a difficult question.
On meeting the dictator earlier at the Whitehouse apparently he said to Zelensky, you're all dressed up today, or something like that 😁
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I’ve only heard it on the radio, but it sounds like there was a truly extraordinary press conference involving Trump, Vance and Zelensky this afternoon - Putin probably can’t believe his luck.
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Heathblue
On meeting the dictator earlier at the Whitehouse apparently he said to Zelensky, you're all dressed up today, or something like that
I thought you were joking, but he did turn up in his action man outfit.
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I’ve only heard it on the radio, but it sounds like there was a truly extraordinary press conference involving Trump, Vance and Zelensky this afternoon - Putin probably can’t believe his luck.
Interesting developments ...
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WTF. What an extraordinary exchange between the 2 of them.
As much as I hate Trump, i doubt that Zelenski has ever had to deal with anything or anyone like him before.
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how the feck did America get this madman at the top?
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The Bloop
WTF. What an extraordinary exchange between the 2 of them.
As much as I hate Trump, i doubt that Zelenski has ever had to deal with anything or anyone like him before.
I’m sure Zelenskyy must wonder wtf, listening to Vance talk his usual bollocks, maybe someone should remind them who started the war with their meddling in governments. Anyone would think Trump wasn’t president for four years before the way he talks, they e been fighting since 2014 ffs…
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the other bob wilson
I’ve only heard it on the radio, but it sounds like there was a truly extraordinary press conference involving Trump, Vance and Zelensky this afternoon - Putin probably can’t believe his luck.
The Nobel Prize for Peace must be the easiest accolade to achieve these days. An evil, powerful bully just tells a weaker kid to hand over all his money, stop retaliating and take his trousers down. It would be more difficult to win a bet on Leeds being promoted.
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Taffy Blue in Berkshire
how the feck did America get this madman at the top?
The pitiful country is populated by Americans
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That's one of the most extraordinary political events I think I've witnessed. Clearly an insight into what normally goes on behind closed doors
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JamesWales
That's one of the most extraordinary political events I think I've witnessed. Clearly an insight into what normally goes on behind closed doors
Talk about trying to humiliate Zelenskyy on the world stage……like he hasn’t been through enough. Why does Trump keep lying about how much money they’ve given? It’s been fact checked over and over at around £140 billion not £350….you get the feeling this ‘deal’ is very good for the USA and not so for Ukraine?
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goats
Talk about trying to humiliate Zelenskyy on the world stage……like he hasn’t been through enough. Why does Trump keep lying about how much money they’ve given? It’s been fact checked over and over at around £140 billion not £350….you get the feeling this ‘deal’ is very good for the USA and not so for Ukraine?
Z is holding a bad hand and if he doesn't make a deal soon it could end up in a Russia vs Europe war.
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That was an absolute embarrassment today.
I say that as someone who wants Trump to do well for the country’s sake.
Today I am embarrassed by the treatment of Zelinsky in front of the worlds press.
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If that's America shove it up your arse
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Wash DC Blue
That was an absolute embarrassment today.
I say that as someone who wants Trump to do well for the country’s sake.
Today I am embarrassed by the treatment of Zelinsky in front of the worlds press.
Fair play to zelensky for standing up to the pair of bullying twats
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Wales-Bales
Feck off trump you twat
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goats
Talk about trying to humiliate Zelenskyy on the world stage……like he hasn’t been through enough. Why does Trump keep lying about how much money they’ve given? It’s been fact checked over and over at around £140 billion not £350….you get the feeling this ‘deal’ is very good for the USA and not so for Ukraine?
Trump and his crew are a disgrace
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I hope Zelensky tells Trump there is no deal on the minerals.
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jeepster
I hope Zelensky tells Trump there is no deal on the minerals.
What an appalling way to treat a national leader
It seemed to start with a clown slagging off zelensky for not wearing a suit then a coordinated attack by that fruitcake vice president and Mr orange
Zelensky was brave to hold his ground
What a shitty excuse trump and his bunch are
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JamesWales
That's one of the most extraordinary political events I think I've witnessed. Clearly an insight into what normally goes on behind closed doors
Never mind extraordinary, it was a disgrace
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Never mind extraordinary, it was a disgrace
I've not seen anything like it, disappointed TBH.
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The tosser has hit a new low.
Disgraceful, even by his own standards.
Feckin bully!
"Why don't you wear a suit"?
Wankers!
Vance... what a ****
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MacAdder
The tosser has hit a new low.
Disgraceful, even by his own standards.
Feckin bully!
"Why don't you wear a suit"?
Wankers!
Vance... what a ****
Vance is a twat possibly more of a twat than trump
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Vance is a twat possibly more of a twat than trump
Dangerous man
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I actually think zelensky should be given a medal and a peacekeeping army from willing European partners for standing up to those tossers
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I don’t understand why they had to have a meeting in front of the cameras.
Totally idiotic.
By all accounts the meeting was going well until this.
**** knows what happens now.
Whatever it is…I can’t see it being good.
I genuinely had high hopes for a peace agreement.
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Dorcus
The pitiful country is populated by Americans
Please try not to be so crass.
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There's a yank woman on newsnight now who is saying she's impartial but is lying through her teeth and is also saying Zelensky threatened the USA ?
What , by saying to trump it's OK for you lot , you have an ocean between you and any enemies
Carly Sands , former ambassador to Denmark
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Unacceptable for peace to be brokered on the ignoring of international law
That seemed like a set up with that JD Vance and his creepy mate in the background stirring the pot
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Britain and France need to let trump play toy soldiers
Independent peacekeeping force
America under Trump are barking mad
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Wash DC Blue
Please try not to be so crass.
It comes naturally to him, will be the 1st hiding under the bed when starmers stazi comes knocking on his door looking for troops, no winners today only losers, I tend to agree with sludge here in that Vance was the one who kicked it off although it could have been planned, Trump loyalists seem to be happy with the stance taken whereas Zelensky may well come under internal pressure and get ousted in a coup, not sure where this goes from here.
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Wales-Bales
I thought you were joking, but he did turn up in his action man outfit.
If Elon can wear jeans t-shirt and a cap to his cabinet meetings I'm sure it's cool for Zelensky to wear clothes that show solidarity with his countrymen.
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Harry Paget Flashman
If Elon can wear jeans t-shirt and a cap to his cabinet meetings I'm sure it's cool for Zelensky to wear clothes that show solidarity with his countrymen.
Good point
Feck trump and his clowns
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Heathblue
It comes naturally to him, will be the 1st hiding under the bed when starmers stazi comes knocking on his door looking for troops, no winners today only losers, I tend to agree with sludge here in that Vance was the one who kicked it off although it could have been planned, Trump loyalists seem to be happy with the stance taken whereas Zelensky may well come under internal pressure and get ousted in a coup, not sure where this goes from here.
Yes, it was Vance.
Zelensky didn’t help himself but that no way excuses the behaviour.
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Hopefully Sundays meeting of European leaders see's an unprecedented donation of military hardware and financial support.
Sooner Europe distance themselves from the current US administration the better.
These lot are aligned with the worlds bad guys and anyone suggesting otherwise is in the same boat as them.
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What did zelensky do what was wrong ?
He was poked with a stick and is never going to sign without security guarantees
He was provoked there tonight by bullies wanting a scrap and trump didn't like zelensky standing up to him
That shows the kind of leader he is
I hope starmer acts wisely and forms a defence pact with france and others
We should never have left Europe
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SLUDGE FACTORY
There's a yank woman on newsnight now who is saying she's impartial but is lying through her teeth and is also saying Zelensky threatened the USA ?
What , by saying to trump it's OK for you lot , you have an ocean between you and any enemies ��
Carly Sands , former ambassador to Denmark
It was Trump himself who said a couple of days ago that there is "a beautiful ocean between the USA and Europe" with the intentional meaning that they are at a safe distance and basically don't care what happens to Ukraine.
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That Carly Sands is surely under the Trump misinformation umbrella. The frightening thing is that she actually believes it
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Harry Paget Flashman
Hopefully Sundays meeting of European leaders see's an unprecedented donation of military hardware and financial support.
Sooner Europe distance themselves from the current US administration the better.
These lot are aligned with the worlds bad guys and anyone suggesting otherwise is in the same boat as them.