That's true but it doesn't deflect from the immediate concern here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
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That's true but it doesn't deflect from the immediate concern here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Listening to his speech on these tariffs.
He has a way of doing things that is surely unique in the world?
Five minutes into the speech to a global audience he pulls up some autoworker to talk in very straight terms about his job and factories closing in Detroit etc.
No one else does that do they?
Economically it feels the world changes slightly today, depending on how everyone reacts
Laughable. His unilateral declaration of a trade war will make every poor person on the planet worse off.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Well I guess we are about to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
One likely scenario though is that it actually leads to a rather rapid reduction in tariffs given he cites those on US goods as justification for the changes.
I think it's a power play more than anything
Lay off the glue.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
James, you don’t have to come and hear and try and defend Trump just because it’s what you think you’re expected to do. If any other leader of one of the other major counties of the world introduced tariffs in the way Trump has they’d be labelled mad, but, because of who it is, people just shrug their shoulders and mutter “it’s just Trump being Trump”. :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Is that his problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Yes but he can do it because of how strong americas economy is.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The jeopardy is lower for him than others
I'm not sure about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
For everyone else, they have one country with extra tariffs, albeit a major one.
For the US, it's everyone they trade with. They aren't going to start manufacturing enough for themselves over night. I'd say jeopardy and risk is far higher for the US than others.
It looks like a list of countries, with a basic formula for allocating a tariff amount. I say that as one of the countries is an island inhabited by penguins. I'm not sure much planning has gone into this.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
A likely scenario is that it will all get abandoned soon, Trump will spin it as being the strong man, the global alpha who everyone is afraid of, and two or three posters on here will lap it up.
No, it was under Biden that America has had the strong economy - well, stronger than the one they've had in the past three months anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
I wonder would he have taken that tone with a man?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
On Trump, he couldn’t care less what effect any decision has as long as the world is talking about him.
Anyone notice the apt frame crop on Victoria Derbyshire?
That Gorka is a right tool. Horrible man.
He would! This is also only the latest Incarnation. He's interviewed on Newsnight by Victoria Derbyshire quite often. Always the same toneQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
I'm not sure that's a defence Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It is true, we are about to find out.
It is true that these tariffs will be a starting point with many countries negotiating to bring them down.
I also do think it's a power play to flex American muscles in the global manufacturing/goods market. And it's political as much as anything Lewis Goodall said as much on Newsnight as well.
Make parity great again?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
How stupid does Brexit look now in a trade war world?
Phenomenally stupid, and that's even before we consider the political implications of a disunited Europe within the new world order.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Tariffs on the UK are half those just put on the EU
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Originally Posted by JamesWales
Oh, well that’s alright then.
Just a statement of fact I need response to the above🤷Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
That's not fair, we need to pay more as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Wall Street loses trillions after Trumps tariffs. Feckin idiot.
That's the plan isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
What’s the tariffs on Russia, North Korea, Iran and Israel out of curiosity? The Beatles of progressiveness and all around great bunch of lads.
Israel 17%Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Iran 10%
Russia, Cuba and North Korea weren't targeted in the announced tariffs.
Cuba. I forgot about those pesky boys. Does the USA have many dealings with them? The embargo is still active isn’t it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Israel, less than most countries. Iran, the baseline minimum. Russia and North Korea, nothing… how curious.
Israel more than many countries too. Whatever rationale they are using it doesn't seem to be that related to diplomatic relations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
That's the story on Russia.
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/tru...aine-ceasefire
The US is Cuba's third biggest trading partner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Will be very interesting to see what happens to the markets tomorrow. Today was a bloodbath but that does happen.
Two days in a row is something else.
More evidence of a dictatorship emerging?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgerl183j3o
The Trump administration has fired Gen Timothy Haugh - the head of both the National Security Agency and US Cyber Command - the BBC's US partner CBS has reported.
It is not clear why he was removed, but it comes after a meeting between President Donald Trump and far-right activist Laura Loomer on Wednesday. Ms Loomer reportedly urged Trump to fire specific employees whom she suspected lacked support for his agenda.
She posted on X that Gen Haugh and his deputy Wendy Noble, who US media reported was also let go, "have been disloyal to President Trump. That is why they have been fired."
Before their firings were reported, Trump told reporters he would get rid of any staff deemed to be disloyal.
Well, it’s entirely predictable that you’ll say it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Wasn't there a "Night of the Long Knives" somewhere? Now where on Earth was it and when ......?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
The tariffs are reciprocal. What part of reciprocal don't you understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Isn't that something to do with sections of the USA military command orchestrating the Ukraine-Russia war?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I have read widely and deeply around this issue for the last 11 minutes, and I have concluded they were sacked because they thought Trump is a twat and MAGA is a dangerous reactionary movement represented by loons who have the President's ear like Laura Loomer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
If they thought the same about Vladimir Putin, that is as close as you will get to your Ukraine-Russia war speculation.
FFS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Comparing the murder of hundreds of opponents to high ranking officials losing their jobs under a new head of state?
Hard to even know where to begin with this stuff.