By storm, you mean dictatorship presumably?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
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By storm, you mean dictatorship presumably?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I was thinking more accountability and justice Stevo 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Accountability? When has Trump made himself accountable for anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
More four dimensional chess from the great man.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5d13e4r2rt
Great news! Carney is more than a match for the Dumb CluckQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
This is the chicken coming home to roost from one of Trump's first big errors.
Most people would view it as a huge opportunity when your neighbour has a big election a few months after you are elected and with the party you are most aligned with (in this case the Canadian Conservative Party) absolutely storming the polls, as they were.
Trump went too far in making an enemy of Canada. The talk of Fentanyl is one thing, but he kept on with the preposterous 51st state stuff which even if not serious is plainly going to rile people.
The very unpopular Justin Trudeau leaving massively helped too but the turnaround in the polls from 3-4 months ago is incredible.
The irony of Mark Carney talking about the importance of independence and sovereignty when he absolutely did not stress that after Brexit should definitely not be lost on us either. I predict he too will be pretty unpopular fairly quickly.
I had James making a false comparison with Brexit on my bingo card, what do I win? Carney talking sovereignty and independence in the face of lunatics armed to the teeth threatening to annex your country is a bit different to our pathetic victim act around having to follow EU regs which we designed. There are actually a lot of parallels between the way we bleated during Brexit and what trump is doing now, the pathetic whiney victim side of the political right tends to appear as soon as there is anything difficult to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
But in the spirit of trying to be nice as well, I agree with the rest of your post lol
The fact you had to use emotive and false language like "bleating" and "lunatics" demonstrates you know you are on thin ground, and was very much on my bingo card! How on earth is the UK trying to enact a referendum result we voted for in anyway comparable to anything Trump has said about Canada? Ridiculous. It's polar opposites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
US says be the 51st state to have universal tariff free trade...bad thing. Sovereignty is important!
UK votes for something similar and it's awful and full of danger!
If you can't see the irony and inconsistency, that's up to you! As I say, Carneys statements and tone are very different to when he was governor of the bank of England.
And that's fine. That's politics for you, but don't deny it.
It's weird how his tone would be different when doing two completely different jobs isn't it, his reach/responsibility is completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
But to the crux of the issue, Britain choosing to not be part of the EU (however misguided that looks in the current climate) is very different to Trump trying to strongarm Canada into being part of the USA.
I don't think you are so butthurt about Carney not thinking Brexit was/is a good idea (let's not forget, his role as governor of the bank of England was to ensure economic stability....!), you aren't seeing your own hypocrisy. Let's summarise:
- Britain votes to leave the EU
- Carney as head of the BOE (in charge of ensuring economic stability) publicly doesn't think it's a good idea because, guess what, it would cause economic instability
- Britain leaves and economic instability ensues.
Vs
- Trump nukes trade agreement and says he will use 'economic force' to get Canada to become part of the USA
- Canadians overwhelmingly don't want to join the USA
- Carney in his role as prime minister of Canada reflects the views of it's citizens and strongly opposes trumps language and sentiment
That's not hypocrisy, that's horses for courses. In one role he is accountable for economic stability, in another he is supposed to represent his citizens.
Canadians don't want to be part of the USA and Trump won't shut up about it, and in the context of his threats of annexation and invasions around Greenland and Panama, I would be surprised if any leader/future leader of canada wasn't leaning hard into '**** off trump' territory.
First they intervened in Germany and halted the momentum the afd were creating, now they have completely nuked the conservatives in Canada, hopefully Reform are next.
As for emotive language:
Lunatic - crazy, dangerous - yep I am comfortable that these terms apply to the current republican party and leadership of the USA based on the first 100 days of trumps second term
Bleating - weak, querulous or foolish complaint. Also comfortable that this applies the the current administration, 'everyone is taking advantage of America' and applies on the right of our political spectrum around Brexit, which started as 'we hold all the cards' to 'the EU are punishing us'.
So no, I am pretty comfortable with the language.
There's a huge difference. Handing sovereignty to a united Europe is a sensible and worthwhile progression: handing sovereignty to the crazies in the "good ole US of A" is insane and suicidal.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
What's insane and suicidal about being absorbed into a country where the governance structure is superceded by a guy writing instructions on a piece of paper and waving them at a camera, that sounds robust enough to me to not end badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
You are completely overthinking what was a final observation about the fact that a governor of the bank of England had just been elected PM of another country - a unique scenario - and that his tone on the importance of sovereignty and economic independence are of course different. I get that. The context is difference, but it's still an observation. He was happy for the UK to lose independence over tariff setting etc, yet stresses the importance of Canada being able to do so.
You can use the exaggerated language if you want. It's hardly uncommon for people to do so, but I don't think it's an accurate representation of reality, to summarize the UK enacting a democratic result as "bleating" or to just refer to people as 'lunatics" but that's your prerogative!
And not forgetting the stratospherically increased odds of being murdered by a gun toting crazy or super zealous cops. That'll do for me Tommy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
so after months of talks it appears USA and Ukraine have signed a minerals deal tonight
will Trump manage to secure a peace deal with Russia now ?
Extortion followed by a forced Ukrainian surrender must surely be enough for Trump to ‘earn’ a Nobel Peace Prize?Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Carney wins his election by 2.5 per cent and the man baby says it’s “almost even” and yet his win in November by 1.5 per cent is a “landslide” :hehe:
That’s a trump in a nutshell. You can’t even call it spin - just outright lies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeTheFifth/s/jrLzWo6zi9Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
but apparently trump has saved the lives of 2/3s of Americans already.
:hehe: it gets better
You might like this one. A few weeks ago, when they deported that dad and said he was in MS13, trumps team made a Photoshop of a tattoo allegedly on his knuckles. Each symbol was supposedly M S 1 or 3. So they helpfully printed each letter above the symbol to illustrate it clearly.
Trump seems to believe, very very adamantly, that the letters and numbers were actual tattoos.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TRUMP: He had MS-13 on his knuckles, tattooed!<br><br>MORAN: That was photoshopped <br><br>TRUMP: Terry, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime. I picked you. But you're not being very nice. <a href="https://t.co/NgCpEB8o1S">pic.twitter.com/NgCpEB8o1S</a></p>— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1917375813177037212?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Mind you, this is the same guy who expressed disbelief and admiration that his son could switch on a laptop.
Nothing surprises me about him any more :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Top marks to the interviewer there mind. Didn't let trump get away with his nonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I dunno, I thought the interviewer was trying to move on while Trump was the one going back to the topic, and looping the rope round his own neck.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
I am not overthinking anything, you made a a bit of a false comparison and have now partly accepted that, good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
As for bleating, there was lots of bleating once the reality set in post-brexit. The pathetic talk of the EU 'punishing us' was flowing from previously overconfident brexiteers on a daily basis. I didn't describe the process of us enacting Brexit as bleating, that wouldn't even make sense.
US President Donald Trump has issued an executive order calling for all federal funding to the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) and National Public Radio (NPR) to be blocked.
On Thursday evening, Trump alleged that both organisations have engaged with "biased and partisan news coverage".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly1jwe7582o
I don't think that shouting fascist all the time is necessarily helpful but surely most of us can agree that this is some authoritarian shitQuote:
Originally Posted by stevo
That is a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I used to watch PBS a lot and donated to it on their many telethons.
In a strange new world to me for a good few years after moving here…it was a tonic to be able to watch something like “Open All Hours” or “Yes Minister” not to mention Bob Ross, The Woodwright's Shop and the Ken Burns documentaries.
NPR was also a good listen in the car as the news in the GW Bush era was no better then than it is now (Dan Rather aside).
I would say that it is left leaning but not overwhelmingly so compared to the likes of MSNBC or CNN.
It’s also debatable how valuable they are with evolving forms of media but it is a petty move IMO.
Ken Burns made some terrific documentaries about the American Civil War, the expansion of Europeans at the expense of native Americans and a lot else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
PBS is available via the general Sky package, by the way - but you may not come across it by accident. Subscribing to it's website provided the content for the coming week.
Can’t give Trump the same amount of credit for this one as you can Canada, but, no doubt, he did his bit to help with this one as well - the man’s a genius.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9djze015xlo
His documentaries are indeed fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
It’s good to see that they have a revenue stream from Sky.
I don’t think that they were hugely funded by the government hence the constant fundraising efforts that they did.
Cheeky Fu**ers told me over 20 years ago when I called in that $5 was below the minimum that they could accept!
The World is coming to it's senses... painfully slowly!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Sadly I think that Civil Conflict will occur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Autocorrect seems to have changed 'its' to the contraction of 'it is'!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Definitely in the good ole US of A. Put money on itQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Good to see I'm not the only Pedant 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Welcome to the grammatical minefield. After all, who doesn't enjoy calling a pedant a Pedant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
It should have been "Pedant". :getscoat:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
PBS isn't left-leaning. It's establishment and centrist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
CNN and MSNBC are just anti-Trump.
I guess that depends on your definition of left leaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
MSNBC and CNN I would certainly say are liberal. I would say the same about the WP and NYT too.
According to “All Sides”, PBS was Centrist and started leaning left around 2022.
My Wife and I now use the Ground News app.
Again, if Marvel had a new superhero called "The Pedant", then his or her power would be pedantry!Quote:
Originally Posted by az city