I'll meet up with you for that beer and set you straight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
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I'll meet up with you for that beer and set you straight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Sounds good Mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Do you ever have any downtime or is Trump on your mind 24/7?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Trump is the stuff of nightmaresQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Um, if anyone was daft enough to go through this thread counting up the number of posts you and I have made in it, one of us would win by hundreds of posts - spoiler alert, it wouldn’t be me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
There is a huge contrast between the number of posts you made in Trump’s first term compared to his second one - you certainly weren’t on the fence regarding Trump between 2016 and 2020.
There is a very good reason for that. I was one person up against at least twenty Russia collusion believers! :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
And still you haven’t learned your lesson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I suppose as a hopeless MAGA groupie you will always see the world through Trump’s eyes.
Sad!
For the rest of us - Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. An endless source of amusement, bewilderment and downright outrageousness. He’s also not very bright - not something I would usually use as an excuse to laugh at somebody. But when he gets voted in to lead the most powerful country in the world, you can’t help but laugh at his stupidity.
As for TDS, well, don’t get me started on that.
The notion spread by his adoring admirers that he’s playing 4 Dimensional Chess while he’s being not very bright means you have to laugh - the alternative is to cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
One thing I would say about Trump is that he’s quite a big sports fan, but it se3ms his knowledge does not extend to football, he seems to think the World Cup is a by invite only tournament.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cpdzd2pqgvwo
One more this morning, then I’ll shut up on Trump for today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX-pCAuX7do
Trump posting an AI image of himself as the Pope this week (the week of the Pope's funeral!) was so ridiculous it was genuinely a laugh out loud moment for a few of us in the office. You cannot imagine any other US president in history doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Can you imagine the panic of the various advisors and press people in the white house as they realise what they have to go out to defend next. "he's done WHAT?!".
The only thing more remarkable than Trump's capacity to do something chaotic and bizarre is his supporters' mental gymnastics to rationalise it and decide that it's a good thing and all part of some intricate genius plan.
What is the line that trump would have to cross to lose the support of these people?
He is in a position where he could be an extremely dangerous person for the plebs, so it's worth keeping an eye on what he does, while ignoring what he says as that's mostly distraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Well he's already admitted he could shoot someone in cold blood in Fifth Avenue so it's not that. Apart from taking away their guns he's Teflon coated to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I've not seen it and don't know if it's available, but read that the Sir Kier has made a deal with the Donald,
I'm wondering if the deal with Sir Keir's Labour will give the US increased access to the NHS!!!?.
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Originally Posted by Heathblue
Labour in bed with "Donald" shocker!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Shirley Sir Kier will have pushed back the chlorinated chicken?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The :flare: was also there.
We have to thank Rjk & Sludge for all of this and everything else, as it wouldn't have been possible without their genius tactical voting idea that added millions to the Labour vote. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The CCMB massive, I'd hate to be one of their partners tonight 🤣, the rage 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
I have this nagging feeling you may have exaggerated Sludge’s (and Rjk’s) influence on the wider electorate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Granted CCMB is essential reading for millions of ‘undecided voters, but even so…..
Like he pushed back on genocide, child poverty and grovelling at the Court of King Don?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Globalists are going to globalistQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
You could find trump in bed with your wife and you would find some sort of neo con libertarian get out clause for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Don't blame me, I never held my nose and voted for the guy who will green light the continuation of the NHS privatisation, this one is on you and the CCMB massive 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
No you voted ToryQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Lol, you keep saying this.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
let's be 100 % unequivocal, I do not vote for anyone in GE's and haven't done for many years, I wouldn't
piss on any of them if they were on fire.
Trump is the vaccine daddy, you better than most should understand how i feel about vaccines and those who push them, Trump is a great tool (no pun intended) for getting under the skin of the ccmb massive, with a bit of Q nonsense as a Brucie bonus.
Now yourself, and fellow your CCMB massive club voted for the guy who has so far reneged on
Nationalisation of Public Services, He had little choice with Br. SteelTaxation (Ni)Winter Fuel AllowanceWASPI WomenWelfare ReformsLet’s acknowledge that he’s only about six months in, and he might yet address some of these issues. But based on his performance so far, I don’t think that’s likely. He doesn’t govern for the people—he governs for his WEF backers, which, as you’ve already said, you don’t care about. Ultimately, this government is no different from the ones before it: systematic liars serving their real masters. He’s set to hand over the backdoor keys to major American insurance firms, paving the way for them to bleed the NHS even more than past governments. And like his predecessors, he has no real plan for immigration, with the population growing by the equivalent of a city the size of Manchester every year.
And if this isn't enough, Labour and the Tories before then have covered up and protected the rape gangs with one of his MP's describing it as a dog whistle, to be clear you and your squad voted for this, I never and never ever ever ever will for as long as i can breathe. Just because you want me to have voted Tory to give yourself some comfort doesn't mean it true. So live with your guilt of Starmer and own it.
anyone who didn't bother voting shouldn't really criticise those that did. or their "guilt".Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
If no one voted nobody would be elected. You really need to brush up on your logic skills :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Yet you appear to support Trump? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Appearances can be deceptive, Stevo. I dislike the whole lot of them—hate might be too strong a word, though I do use it occasionally. Generally, I prefer love over hate. I noticed in a post above that RJK implied, as I don't vote, my voice shouldn't be heard (or words to that effect).Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Looking ahead to the next election: we might have Starmer, possibly Badenoch (though I suspect she'll be side-lined), and then the so-called knight in shining Armor—Farage, the new people's champion. What, if anything, about this trio would motivate you to leave your house, walk 400 yards to a polling station, and mark an X on a ballot paper? Can you really spot a meaningful difference between them that would earn your vote?
Politics, in my lifetime, (allegedly) has always been corrupt. We used to tolerate it—brown envelopes for local councilors, a few backdoor deals at the national level—because it felt relatively minor. When I moved to my current home, the Lord Mayor of Cardiff lived directly across the road. He took neighbors to the Mansion House for a night out—food, drinks, a bit of goodwill. I don’t know what went on behind closed doors, but he seemed to live like the people he represented: just an average Joe.
That era is gone. Today, we have career politicians chasing influence, not serving the public. The brown envelopes have been replaced by multi-million-pound contracts handed to friends. COVID just made the corruption more blatant. I’ve used AI to look into the figures—yes, I picked on a Tory to keep Sludge happy—but for balance, it's a rot that runs throughout parliament.
How can anyone keep voting for these people when it’s just rinse and repeat? I genuinely don’t know what the solution is or how we reclaim any trust in the system. So I choose to abstain.
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Baroness Michelle Mone was not directly "given" money during the COVID-19 pandemic, but she was linked to PPE Medpro, a company led by her husband, Doug Barrowman, which secured UK government contracts worth £203 million to supply personal protective equipment (PPE). These contracts were awarded in May and June 2020 through a "VIP lane" after Mone recommended the company to ministers.
Reports indicate that PPE Medpro made approximately £60-65 million in profit from these deals, with £29 million transferred to an offshore trust (the Keristal Trust), of which Mone and her children were beneficiaries. Mone admitted in 2023 that she stands to benefit from these profits but denied wrongdoing, claiming the contracts were fulfilled to specification. The Department of Health and Social Care has since issued breach of contract proceedings over a £122 million deal for surgical gowns, alleging they were unusable. The National Crime Agency is also investigating PPE Medpro for suspected criminal offences related to the contracts.
The £203 million figure refers to the total contract value awarded to PPE Medpro, not a direct payment to Mone personally. The exact amount she personally received or stands to receive remains unclear due to the trust structure and ongoing investigations.
So what if he does anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Err, because he’s a sex offender?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Is that the bloke who is best buddies with the Labour Party leader?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Hardly buddies but I’ve got no love for eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Get yer sick bag ready!Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dTaFl9nM0
I don't think that is what happens, candidates draw lots to determine the winner if nobody votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
They wouldn't be elected, they would be appointed by themselves, i.e. a totalitarian dictatorship :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
No. In that situation the electorate would have made a collective decision (non voting is also a conscious choice where the consequences are clear to all) that they want to be governed on the basis of chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
That is not a totalitarian dictatorship, it is an act of plain stupidity, laziness and an abrogation of responsibility by the people.
Because even if you buy in to the UniParty stuff there are always some differences of policy, personality, of influence and interests. The differences may sometimes (but not all times) be marginal - but acting like a smug tosser and enabling the worst version to exercise governmental power will almost certainly bring more pain and suffering where it could have been avoided or reduced.