The Donald Trump thread

Gluey should form the jeering from the sidelines smugly telling everyone how stupid they are party - not sure he’d want anyone to vote for him mind.

Wow, lot's of people getting their snickers in a tryst over hypothetical scenarios. I'd hazzard a guess and say those with any smarties have already mapped out their unpleasantry avoidance strategies.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Wow, lot's of people getting their snickers in a tryst over hypothetical scenarios. I'd hazzard a guess and say those with any smarties have already mapped out their unpleasantry avoidance strategies.

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they probably know how to spell hazard too

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Originally Posted by delmbox

they probably know how to spell hazard too

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My musings are also IQ tests to keep myself amused.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Gluey should form the jeering from the sidelines smugly telling everyone how stupid they are party - not sure he’d want anyone to vote for him mind.

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Think you are underestimating the electorate, Bob. If it was one CCMB User Id - one vote you may be surprised with both the turnout and voter intentions!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

My musings are also IQ tests to keep myself amused.

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Come on Gluey - you are way too old to be having a smutty giggle about a score of 69!

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Appearances can be deceptive, Stevo. I dislike the whole lot of them—hate might be too strong a word, though I do use it occasionally. Generally, I prefer love over hate. I noticed in a post above that RJK implied, as I don't vote, my voice shouldn't be heard (or words to that effect).
Looking ahead to the next election: we might have Starmer, possibly Badenoch (though I suspect she'll be side-lined), and then the so-called knight in shining Armor—Farage, the new people's champion. What, if anything, about this trio would motivate you to leave your house, walk 400 yards to a polling station, and mark an X on a ballot paper? Can you really spot a meaningful difference between them that would earn your vote?
Politics, in my lifetime, (allegedly) has always been corrupt. We used to tolerate it—brown envelopes for local councilors, a few backdoor deals at the national level—because it felt relatively minor. When I moved to my current home, the Lord Mayor of Cardiff lived directly across the road. He took neighbors to the Mansion House for a night out—food, drinks, a bit of goodwill. I don’t know what went on behind closed doors, but he seemed to live like the people he represented: just an average Joe.
That era is gone. Today, we have career politicians chasing influence, not serving the public. The brown envelopes have been replaced by multi-million-pound contracts handed to friends. COVID just made the corruption more blatant. I’ve used AI to look into the figures—yes, I picked on a Tory to keep Sludge happy—but for balance, it's a rot that runs throughout parliament.
How can anyone keep voting for these people when it’s just rinse and repeat? I genuinely don’t know what the solution is or how we reclaim any trust in the system. So I choose to abstain.
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Baroness Michelle Mone was not directly "given" money during the COVID-19 pandemic, but she was linked to PPE Medpro, a company led by her husband, Doug Barrowman, which secured UK government contracts worth £203 million to supply personal protective equipment (PPE). These contracts were awarded in May and June 2020 through a "VIP lane" after Mone recommended the company to ministers.

Reports indicate that PPE Medpro made approximately £60-65 million in profit from these deals, with £29 million transferred to an offshore trust (the Keristal Trust), of which Mone and her children were beneficiaries. Mone admitted in 2023 that she stands to benefit from these profits but denied wrongdoing, claiming the contracts were fulfilled to specification. The Department of Health and Social Care has since issued breach of contract proceedings over a £122 million deal for surgical gowns, alleging they were unusable. The National Crime Agency is also investigating PPE Medpro for suspected criminal offences related to the contracts.

The £203 million figure refers to the total contract value awarded to PPE Medpro, not a direct payment to Mone personally. The exact amount she personally received or stands to receive remains unclear due to the trust structure and ongoing investigations.

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So, it seems we're both as anti-establishment as each other then? Cool. Trump was marketed as the anti-establishment choice, but he's worse than any of the others.

But I've always voted. I usually find an independent candidate to vote for that says all the right things. I know they won't win, but at least I can't be accused of complaining and not voting.

Don't get me started on that Baroness Mone case. Utterly despicable.

Just popping in to see if the CCMB massive have an opinion on Trump being gifted a $400m 747 from Qatar which the US government will pay to retrofit before he takes it into his "presidential library".

And to my great surprise, no!

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Originally Posted by lardy

Just popping in to see if the CCMB massive have an opinion on Trump being gifted a $400m 747 from Qatar which the US government will pay to retrofit before he takes it into his "presidential library".

And to my great surprise, no!

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John Stewart has.

https://youtu.be/bUsIAwyLeiE?si=31bVAeKqJtLVwXp_

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

John Stewart has.

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JS saying what you want to hear shocker :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

JS saying what you want to hear shocker :hehe:

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What's your take on it then?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Just popping in to see if the CCMB massive have an opinion on Trump being gifted a $400m 747 from Qatar which the US government will pay to retrofit before he takes it into his "presidential library".

And to my great surprise, no!

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Jumbo jet for squat, art of the deal Shirley? ,🤣🤣🤣 a lot of his own pushing back on this one, you can relax now 👍

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Jumbo jet for squat, art of the deal Shirley? ,🤣🤣🤣 a lot of his own pushing back on this one, you can relax now 👍

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It isn’t for squat. It is a cheap way for the Saudis to get the man-child to tick all their boxes. Mind you the Trump portrait that Putin has just delivered is an even cheaper way to stroke Trump’s ego and scoop the political (and financial) benefits.

It is almost as if they have all read ‘The Art Of The Deal’ and worked out how to play the egotistical clown.

Trump doesn't get on with foreign leaders - he's an all powerful divisive extremist!

Trump gets on with foreign leaders - he's a clown being led!

Never any good news is there?! 🤦

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It isn’t for squat. It is a cheap way for the Saudis to get the man-child to tick all their boxes. Mind you the Trump portrait that Putin has just delivered is an even cheaper way to stroke Trump’s ego and scoop the political (and financial) benefits.

It is almost as if they have all read ‘The Art Of The Deal’ and worked out how to play the egotistical clown.

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Kin ell Jon, i can bin twitter now, :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Kin ell Jon, i can bin twitter now, :hehe:

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The message board that keeps on giving :biggrin:

I've have it on good authority that Trump scoffed some free canapes and a Diet Coke just minutes after leaving the stage :sherlock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ehO_ccsvJA

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I've have it on good authority that Trump scoffed some free canapes and a Diet Coke just minutes after leaving the stage :sherlock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ehO_ccsvJA

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Saving Israel for last
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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Jumbo jet for squat, art of the deal Shirley? ,������ a lot of his own pushing back on this one, you can relax now ��

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I remember the CCMB massive being very unrelaxed at Hunter's laptop. Not so many smiley faces when that was being discussed endlessly!

The Biden crime family, that's what the CCMB massive called it. They used to get really worked up, solid blocks of text with no paragraphs, but are ever so quiet now.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Trump doesn't get on with foreign leaders - he's an all powerful divisive extremist!

Trump gets on with foreign leaders - he's a clown being led!

Never any good news is there?! ��

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by lardy

I remember the CCMB massive being very unrelaxed at Hunter's laptop. Not so many smiley faces when that was being discussed endlessly!

The Biden crime family, that's what the CCMB massive called it. They used to get really worked up, solid blocks of text with no paragraphs, but are ever so quiet now.

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So, Trump decides to commit a clever crime, and the first thing he does is tell the world about it! Yeah, that sounds perfectly feasible :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

So, Trump decides to commit a clever crime, and the first thing he does is tell the world about it! Yeah, that sounds perfectly feasible :hehe:

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What? You really think it doesn’t? I thought you were a student of TruthSocial?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Trump doesn't get on with foreign leaders - he's an all powerful divisive extremist!

Trump gets on with foreign leaders - he's a clown being led!

Never any good news is there?! 🤦

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Trump is ‘an all powerful divisive extremist!’ whether or not he gets on with foreign leaders.

Trump ‘getting on’ with Putin, Netanyahu, Modi and the House of Saud not cause for celebration.

But that seems to be your measure of ‘good news’!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Trump is ‘an all powerful divisive extremist!’ whether or not he gets on with foreign leaders.

Trump ‘getting on’ with Putin, Netanyahu, Modi and the House of Saud not cause for celebration.

But that seems to be your measure of ‘good news’!

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My point is people will just complain about it whatever happens. Friendly with Saudis - bad. Unfriendly with Saudis - bad

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

My point is people will just complain about it whatever happens. Friendly with Saudis - bad. Unfriendly with Saudis - bad

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Just to get you spitting feathers :hehe:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-qatar-corrupt

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Just to get you spitting feathers :hehe:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-qatar-corrupt

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A tough day in guardian towers yesterday with the racist in chief shaking hands with the Muslim leaders he apparently hates.

Can hear it now Oh drat Toby, he's getting on with people in the middle east! That won't get us many clicks and ad revenue! Marina, get to work!

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

My point is people will just complain about it whatever happens. Friendly with Saudis - bad. Unfriendly with Saudis - bad

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Regularly get jumbo jets from people you're 'friendly' with, do you?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Regularly get jumbo jets from people you're 'friendly' with, do you?

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No, I'm saying the story yesterday is the American president meeting leaders from one of the most volatile parts of the world.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No, I'm saying the story yesterday is the American president meeting leaders from one of the most volatile parts of the world.

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Shirley the plane will go to the DOD when Trump's done his term ? And it'll all end up as a Lardy nothing burger. That's how it usually pans out although it takes about 5 years to get there!!

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Shirley the plane will go to the DOD when Trump's done his term ? And it'll all end up as a Lardy nothing burger. That's how it usually pans out although it takes about 5 years to get there!!

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All reporting says it will go into his presidential library. After the government has spent hundreds of millions getting it to AF1 quality (and had a hunt for bugs).

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Trump doesn't get on with foreign leaders - he's an all powerful divisive extremist!

Trump gets on with foreign leaders - he's a clown being led!

Never any good news is there?! ��

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Come on James you must see that Trump being given a $400m jet by Qatar weeks after his company got a deal for a luxury resort and golf course there smells a bit. If you sell yourself as the drain the swamp guy don't be surprised when people come at you for this

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Come on James you must see that Trump being given a $400m jet by Qatar weeks after his company got a deal for a luxury resort and golf course there smells a bit. If you sell yourself as the drain the swamp guy don't be surprised when people come at you for this

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I'd be worried if Trump got a blue one and his missus got a pink one!

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Originally Posted by lardy

All reporting says it will go into his presidential library. After the government has spent hundreds of millions getting it to AF1 quality (and had a hunt for bugs).

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There are many lows of his presidency but if this plane does in fact become his personal possession, this would possibly be at the bottom or top !!! Depending how you look at it.

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

There are many lows of his presidency but if this plane does in fact become his personal possession, this would possibly be at the bottom or top !!! Depending how you look at it.

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Hasn't he just flogged 160 brand new Boeings to Qatar? Sell 160, get 1 free :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Hasn't he just flogged 160 brand new Boeings to Qatar? Sell 160, get 1 free :hehe:

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With the current productivity at I'll be in a box before Qatar see the 1st one :hehe:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Come on James you must see that Trump being given a $400m jet by Qatar weeks after his company got a deal for a luxury resort and golf course there smells a bit. If you sell yourself as the drain the swamp guy don't be surprised when people come at you for this

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I don't dispute it. But is it even true?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2749081.html

But my point is, it's just the guardian being the guardian. They will find a negative in anything, so when he damages relationships abroad they will focus on that. When he appears to get on well w
Ith other nations then they will just go with some random negative speculation.

What bugs me is, as I say, that it's so obvious. It's so obviously driven by giving readers what they want to read to drive up ad revenue.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I don't dispute it. But is it even true?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2749081.html

But my point is, it's just the guardian being the guardian. They will find a negative in anything, so when he damages relationships abroad they will focus on that. When he appears to get on well w
Ith other nations then they will just go with some random negative speculation.

What bugs me is, as I say, that it's so obvious. It's so obviously driven by giving readers what they want to read to drive up ad revenue.

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You mean like The Daily Mail, Express, Fox News, etc. all do?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I don't dispute it. But is it even true?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2749081.html

But my point is, it's just the guardian being the guardian. They will find a negative in anything, so when he damages relationships abroad they will focus on that. When he appears to get on well w
Ith other nations then they will just go with some random negative speculation.

What bugs me is, as I say, that it's so obvious. It's so obviously driven by giving readers what they want to read to drive up ad revenue.

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It does read like you're disputing it.

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"I think it's a great gesture from Qatar. Appreciate it very much," Trump said. "I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer. I mean, I could be a stupid person and say, 'No, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane.' But it was, I thought it was a great gesture."

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Trump also seems to think he's getting one. There are laws, even the constitution itself, that the president can't accept gifts from foreign leaders. This is such a blatantly over the top the bribe, absolutely no one else would go near accepting it, that it seems like it's Trump reminding everyone that he's completely untouchable and from can do exactly as he likes.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'd be worried if Trump got a blue one and his missus got a pink one!

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Is it the colour of the bribes that would worry you, or the number and scale?

Although to be fair to you, your acceptance of industrial-scale corruption, influence peddling and constitution breaking is completely in line with the majority in Congress. No shame, no shock. Welcome to MAGA World.

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Originally Posted by stevo

You mean like The Daily Mail, Express, Fox News, etc. all do?

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Yes, that's exactly what I mean! It's just people think the guardian et al is different, and it isn't!