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Sorry, I meant I don't dispute what Delmbox said. If it is a new plane for him personally, then clearly it's an inappropriate gift. If it's for presidential use, I dunno..Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
But my wider point remains. Why weren't we talking about the US president meeting with these leaders, and the huge geopolitical outcomes from that? That's the story.
He is the principal beneficiary of the use of a luxury jet and you don't see any story in it? Come off it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
BTW there's a decent bet to be had that all the deals with the US will turn out to benefit him and his entourage.
The story IS industrial scale corruption and cronyism.
You're defending the orange man baby again.
I'm saying there's bigger issues at play to speculation about a jet. Which given there are two wars going on in the middle east at the moment, and the US is the key global player,I would say is a pretty valid thing to say. What were they even talking about in this conference? Any discussion on that?Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
The reality is some people will just look for a bad story everywhere. I agree entirely if he is accepting a private gift of a multimillion pound jet then it is absolutely wrong.
You're absolutely right James. Let's be serious. Time to check in on what Trump has been saying about being a key global player with the two wars going on in the middle east.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump to Emir of Qatar: "As a construction guy.. this is perfect marble. This is what they call perfecto… and we appreciate those camels. Haven’t seen camels like that in a long time." <a href="https://t.co/K6DAWc8tDK">pic.twitter.com/K6DAWc8tDK</a></p>— EssenViews (@essenviews) <a href="https://twitter.com/essenviews/status/1922756419150921954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You're wrong. The deals, foreign policy, domestic policy is all about Tramp. He would offer up anything to anyone to aggrandize himself. That is the story. You're falling for the eye candy.
This is an interesting tale about a gift from a foreign government. In short, the Soviets bugged the Americans for seven years. I would imagine that it would be quite easy nowadays to do this again - but this time it's Air Force One! Any serious government should be getting major alarm bells at this.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_...tening_device)
Let's hope the intelligence agencies check CCMB cos this is probably something that hadn't been considered!Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Let's hope they don't, they might see your posts and go looking for something useful that came out of Trumps conferences to end the wars!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Trump's critics and supporters unite against Qatar plane deal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg4zk22n9wo
But I've never known you call out right wing media for what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...with-dictators
Born in the USA!
Nobody voted for Bruce Springsteen!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I have done! Daily Express is by far the worst newspaper in the country in terms of balance and bombast. Daily Mail is entertaining enough at times and has a great website. It's biased as hell though, but it has a much greater diversity of opinion that the guardian. The Sun - I don't think anyone takes it seriously politically, but it can be entertaining. Telegraph - decent enough journalism and comprehensive reporting but old school cucumber sandwiches conservatism. Not a patch on the Times which is a great paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Talk Radio - I never listen but I generally hate call in shows as it's just listening to clickbait instead of reading it.
GB News. Less balanced than it thinks. Far more balanced than it's detractors think. Pretty open minded in terms of discussing bigger issues in all honesty.
My policy is that the truth nearly always lies somewhere between the Mail and the guardian
Many people with opinions were not elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Incredible, isn’t it.
You and me and the Pope amongst them.
One of the differences between you and Springsteen is that you are preaching to a handful of old lags on a football message board; he is talking to a huge crowd at a Manchester arena.
The other difference is that you are consistently wrong and he is right.
But glad we could clear that up.
My band Simple Minds lost a vast part of their audience after the Street Fighting Years Tour, you could argue that they just are a shit band :hehe: I put it down to the politics nonsense on this Album,Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
This is your Land
Biko (Cover)
Belfast Child
Mandela Day
I used to try and do say 3 gigs a tour, the only gig i did for this album was the one in the National Stadium which was essentially a bore fest of Jim Kerr bleating on about Amnesty international, artists against apartheid, Mandela etc. etc. great causes but of the 30 odd SM gigs I've seen by far the worst, when i go and see a band i just want the music, the song says the message and that's fine, we know Springsteen hates him and again that's fine but he has his social platforms for this stuff, I did see Springsteen at the National Stadium and enjoyed his gig. But there was no preaching from the stage. Ricky Gervais had it spot on when he roasted Hollywood. Get on Stage thank your mum, no preaching and FcUK off. :hehe:
Empires and Dance is one of my all-time favourite albums
How does a band who wrote this material evolve into DYFAM, Alive and kicking,!!!! This fear of God's is the stand out track for me but when in an upbeat mood I like Room on volume 12Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Respect due. I'm starting to see you in a different light all of a sudden :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Real to Real Cacophony through to New Gold Dream are all mighty fine albums. When the mood suits, I can listen to the next two too.
Trumps new plane is actually a plane that Qatar are desperate to get rid of.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremyb...tar-747-trump/
I agree, and furthermore he should be using public transport (bus/train) whenever he is on government business.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Here's the video:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
https://youtu.be/n-kODkdNSgs?si=RsuceSQjbkAWSnYN
Former FBI director deletes tweet after posting cryptic message for the assination of Trump, let's see how this one pans out.
Who says it was a cryptic post calling for Trump to get topped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Trump?
The bloke has deleted his Instagram account 🤣🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
https://www.instagram.com/comey/Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Uhhhhmmm...
86 was a code to ban someone or get rid of. People have since incorrectly interpreted it to mean to kill someone.
Very sensible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
But the post was not what Trump and the Trumpers claimed.
Obviously.
But when the MAGA Mob decide their Great Leader has been threatened (even if they don’t believe it themselves) it is probably wise to back off and accept that truth, norms of behaviour and public discourse are all dead.
Very sad (as the man-child is fond of sloganising)!
He who must be obeyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BSGKTP-Impe...362?th=1&psc=1Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Impeach Biden to murder Trump in one MAGA move! The gullibility train keeps rolling on on here.
But when people try to assassinate the vice president, by erecting a gallows just outside the building they were trying to drag him out of - well, they get released and pardoned!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
How about 86 45 x 2 t shirts?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
It isn't surprising that the ccmb massive is condoning the threat and overriding what has long been acknowledged to its meaning and to redefine it, its not as if it is the 1st attempt on his life!!!, this has become the playbook of the far left radicles, violence, murder, stabbings, gangbanging of young girls, theft and general social disorder.
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Everybody is doing it wrong!
1986 - Simple Minds "Let There Be Love"
47 - President Trump
86 47 = Let there be love for Donald Trump
https://www.ibtimes.com/conservatives-called-out-using-86-46-protest-biden-after-backlash-over-comeys-86-47-post-3773778
Hmmmm...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BSGKTP-Impe...362?th=1&psc=1 any thoughts on this Captain Gullible? :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Q............Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Captain Gullible ... pot, kettle, :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
To be fair to HB at least he'll give an opinion on stuff, you've been too scared to post anything non cryptic for a quite a while :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You will especially not like my current opinion :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Enjoy the afternoon sun Del I'm off out for a walk.
Nothing more to say, just watching it all unfold now :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox