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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
If the Democrats were able to fix the result in 2020 when they were not in Government, why couldn’t they do it in 2024 when they were? The real truth is one side can accept losing, the other, particularly their leader, can’t.
Ballots are counted at the state level.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ndia-ceasefire
Pakistan to nominate Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize!
India to nominate Pakistan for a Nobel Stand Up Comedy Prize.
Guess that’s the Nobel peace prize gone
If the Democrats weren’t hell bent on identity politics they would be in power now.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
One day the penny will drop!!
So the no wars President turned out to be just like the rest of them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg3rzj8emjt#player
A classic example of a story not ageing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I never had you down as a supporter of Iran, but each to their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
That’s because I’m not one, I just notice the complete inconsistency between Israel having nuclear weapons illegally, breaking international law as a matter of cause and having a leader charged with committing war crimes and nobody doing anything about it and Iran threatening to have them and getting bombed. Israel under Netanyahu have forfeited any right to be treated with kid gloves, but they are because they “have the right to defend themselves”.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Must admit I thought you’d be keeping a low profile today given that the man whose cause you’ve been backing for ten years plus on here has shown that he’s just the same as those other Presidents you accused of being in the pocket of a warmongering elite. You’ve been proved to be completely and utterly wrong on Trump haven’t you.
The best thing that can happen in Iran is the current regime gets overthrown by their own citizens. Having no nuclear threat is a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I agree, but I’d say there’s more chance of any new Government being more radicalized than this one - Israel’s actions in the last eighteen months (and now America’s as well) or so are likely to have created more of a death to Israel, death to America mindset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I find it quite amusing that you think trump has been sitting on a load of evidence that would put biden in prison or similar and has just sat on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
the guy can't even allow a thought to fully form in his head before it appears on the internet
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Originally Posted by Rjk
I like to entertain. 👍
Early doors but if it holds it seems that the massive took the bait hook line and sinker and got played like fiddles. Only to be expected really with the amount of TDS on this MB.
Nobel peace prize incoming?
Understand it will hurt ya,ll.and your friends in the BBC and Guardian.
If it goes pear shaped I can handle the piss take. 👍
Peace
"Q"
It went pear shaped a long, long time ago Heath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
The main figure played in this latest performative bloodbath is Donald J Trump!
Not according to the radio this morning..Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Trump could score a bicycle kick in the 90th minute against the Jacks to get us promoted to the Premier League and a few people on here would be calling for VAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
I admit that's an unlikely scenario ever to come to pass.
I posted a bit tongue in cheek whilst in bed last night just before lights out, there has been conflict in this region all my life and it will continue until i'm cold in the ground and beyond, the years prior to Trump have been expunged by the massive and it's all his fault, i'd cut his balls off for the vaccine alone but on this issue and in spite of the bombing of the power plants (which being consistent, for me isn't the way) i do not recall anyone (of stature) trying to do something peaceful for region. TDS is real. PS i do remember Rabin allegedly taken out for trying to get a peace deal. I'll get ahead of the curve later and change my avatar to the Iranian Flag!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I've read on X this morning that Iran has fired some missiles i hope its just isolated factions and it stops ASAP, before i stopped voting it was left for me, in those days they were the peace luvvies but now these ex greenham common types are desperate for it to escalate again just to say "i was right and told you so"
Well, I've agreed that a non nuclear Iran with a free democraticly elected Government would be a good thing so it can't be me you're thinking of - how can anyone say that it wouldn't? That outcome looks a littlle more likely today then it did on the weekend and, if it comes off, then Trump should be given due credit for playing a part in achieving it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
However, I still say that a more radical Iran, or at least an equally radical Iran, is the more likely outcome of the pounding they've taken from.Israel and then America in the last ten days or so- Israel's behaviour in the region for the last eighteen months has been as much of an obstacle to achieving peace to anything Iran has done in that time. Iranians will have noted the huge contrast between how Israel is treated and they are, so that, just as with what's happening in Gaza, you're getting youngsters adopting the "Death to Israel", "Death to America" narrative.
Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize?
I will say this about him, he's being quite hands on with this ceasefire, tweeting at Israel all in caps "ISRAEL. DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS. IF YOU DO IT IS A MAJOR VIOLATION. BRING YOUR PILOTS HOME, NOW!" :hehe:
It's an absolutely insane way to conduct yourself as a world leader but if it works and stops more bloodshed then heyho
It'll be interesting to see if Israel listen to him, they've basically got what they wanted from him with that previous attack so could just ignore him now. Hopefully they do
I will say this about him, he's being quite hands on with this ceasefire, tweeting at Israel all in caps "ISRAEL. DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS. IF YOU DO IT IS A MAJOR VIOLATION. BRING YOUR PILOTS HOME, NOW!" :hehe:
It's an absolutely insane way to conduct yourself as a world leader but if it works and stops more bloodshed then heyho
It'll be interesting to see if Israel listen to him, they've basically got what they wanted from him with that previous attack so could just ignore him now. Hopefully they do listen
DOUBLE POST - Last one sounded like I was saying hopefully Israel ignore him and bomb Iran anyway :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by delmbox
Feck em all
Trump
I read it as that and forwarded the message onto [email protected] so I hope it isn't too lateQuote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I read it as that and forwarded the message onto [email protected] so I hope it isn't too late. You should be clearer next time as this is important.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I forget the international swing I've got sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
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Fair play, that rant is quite unhinged!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
He's on one today, dropped the F Bomb earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Unhinged or utterly childish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
In fairness to the Don, Henry Kissinger was jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for ending the war in Vietnam after authorising the bombing of Cambodia back to the Stone Age so illegal bombing the shit out of other countries shouldn't instantly debar you!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Still he suffered decades of conspiracy linked innuendo back to Jewish figures such as George Soros and the Rothchilds so perhaps you and your ilk could be early adopters on his Netanyahu love in before the less savvy pile in and you are caught on the wrong foot catching up with the tinfoil influencers as usual. Thank me later!
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Originally Posted by stevo
Although James should be along soon to give the opposite interpretation - in the interests of ‘balance’!
Well he has helped secure a ceasefire today, which if it was anyone else on planet earth you would be considering as more important than some naughty words.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Thankfully the swear words give you an opt out! Phew! Close one!
It is of course a ridiculous statement.
I need more F-bombs now from President Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
😂😂😂😂😂
The language and the infantile behaviour matter - but not as much as the actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Trump was played by Netanyahu, as he was played by Putin. He enabled Israel to attack Iran with US supplied weapons and was then drawn in to take part in the hot war.
Does he deserve the credit you give him for then stopping most (if not all) the bloodshed? He has been Trump-whispered from all sides and is desperate not to piss off his MAGA base any more by so obviously reneging on his election promises. He wants that debased Nobel Peace Prize (maybe Iran will go in with Pakistan on the nomination?). He has at least restrained Netanyahu a bit (for now) over Iran if not over Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Iraq or Syria.
Trump creates or enables a war and then calls halt so he can bask in international sycophancy. That deserves credit? I don’t think so!
Do you think the fact Obama got the NPP and he hasn't just simply gnaws away at him day after day after day after day after day.........?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Bit Jon, you are never ever going to say anything different to this, but it's not reality. Of course in elections you have to pick a side, and I don't blame anyone for picking a different party to Trump or anything else. But presenting the world as black and white where EVERYTHING is always bad is simply not reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Just catching the news and on top of yesterday people acknowledging the role in the ceasefire (and tolerating a missile attack on a US airbase too) today we have the Dutch PM acknowledging his role in boosting European defence spending.
You can acknowledge those things. It doesn't have to change the bigger picture, it's just a better reflection of reality in my opinion.
As for his infantile tweets and the nearly as infantile barbs thrown at him too, surely we have learnt to ignore these by now, and certainly they are less newsworthy on the day a ceasefire between two mortal enemies happens.
I was going to say that AOC is also pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but following last nights result from New York, that is less accurate.
Early reports suggest the Iranian nuclear facilities have not sustained catastrophic damage. Iran is clearly wounded and a strategic ceasefire is to their advantage at the moment but maybe not to Netanyahu who has lost some momentum in his plans. Any excuse could spark a blow up at any time if any of the opposing factions see an opportunity.
Even arch right winger William Hague has suggested Trump's actions have been at the very least misguided and may result in unintended consequences. For example, one particular, highly probable outcome is that the Iranians realise how vulnerable they are and then redouble their efforts to complete their nuclear programme as their only hope of defending themselves and maintaining their status quo.
With enough money and partner influence they can achieve their goal even if it involves outsourcing the management of the nuclear programme. Unless there is regime change the peril remains and Trump has neither the intelligence nor the guts to open up the Pandora's box a la Iraq and Afghanistan. Why there wouldn't even be a NPP for him in it so what's the point?
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Originally Posted by Dorcus