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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
JennyWren
You make it sound like only Germany are affected.
No, i don't make it sound like that. That is the opinion of the new German Chancellor in waiting. But obviously everyone will be affected. I believe one of the reasons France may want us to leave is because we are the biggest critics of the common agricultural policy which was originally conceived to protect french farmers. And as we have seen in the past any attempt to change it has the tractors out in force and the french government caves in and then vetos any change because they don't have the bottle to fight their farmers (Or anyone else history may suggest!)
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Brexiteers don't need to put it to another vote. They won, remember?
Yes, but won what? A leave with or without a deal or does it not really matter as long as we leave?
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
On an earlier note This from a BBC post would tend to add some weight to Wales Bales' comment about the German Economy (God forgive me :hehe:)
They need us more than we need them.
Unfortunately May is the weak link, and she appears to be part of the EU negotiating team, not ours!
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
They need us more than we need them.
Unfortunately May is the weak link, and she appears to be part of the EU negotiating team, not ours!
Will you STOP with this utter nonsense. How, logically, can that possible be the case?
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
Will you STOP with this utter nonsense. How, logically, can that possible be the case?
Get some reading glasses ...
"A recent poll suggested 100,000 German jobs could be affected by a no-deal Brexit.
The BDI Federation of German Industry warned Germany would lose at least 0.5% of its GDP - and this at a time when the German economy is already heading south."
The EU will also have to deal with Trump, who is going to aggressively renegotiate their current trade deal.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
I notice yet another post was deleted from here :hehe:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
stevo
Yes, but won what? A leave with or without a deal or does it not really matter as long as we leave?
I asked this question in a post that Mike Morris saw fit to delete.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Get some reading glasses ...
"A recent poll suggested 100,000 German jobs could be affected by a no-deal Brexit.
The BDI Federation of German Industry warned Germany would lose at least 0.5% of its GDP - and this at a time when the German economy is already heading south."
The EU also have to deal with Trump, who is going to aggressively renegotiate their current trade deal.
Got reading glasses thanks.
Yes, Brexit is bad for the German economy. Not disputed.
How do they need us more than we need them though?
Please explain.
...Actually don't bother.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
Got reading glasses thanks.
Yes, Brexit is bad for the German economy. Not disputed.
How do they need us more than we need them though?
Please explain.
We can make a trade deal with the US on the day we leave.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...rump-can-help/
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Oh yippee, so we can be bent over backwards by Trump just so we can get a deal. Remember his slogan America First, we have no bargaining chips in those negotiations whatsoever. What do you think the US will demand from us to get a deal?
Considering we can't even negotiate leaving the EU, we are highly unlikely to be able to get a deal from the States that is good for this country.
The other thing is that it takes years to negotiate a trade deal, we will not have anything signed the day after we leave the EU.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
No, i don't make it sound like that. That is the opinion of the new German Chancellor in waiting. But obviously everyone will be affected. I believe one of the reasons France may want us to leave is because we are the biggest critics of the common agricultural policy which was originally conceived to protect french farmers. And as we have seen in the past any attempt to change it has the tractors out in force and the french government caves in and then vetos any change because they don't have the bottle to fight their farmers (Or anyone else history may suggest!)
I would suggest history would suggest different, Napoleon certainly spent plenty of years fighting the rest of Europe
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
Got reading glasses thanks.
Yes, Brexit is bad for the German economy. Not disputed.
How do they need us more than we need them though?
Please explain.
...Actually don't bother.
No, please bother.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
speedyblue
Oh yippee, so we can be bent over backwards by Trump just so we can get a deal. Remember his slogan America First, we have no bargaining chips in those negotiations whatsoever. What do you think the US will demand from us to get a deal?
Considering we can't even negotiate leaving the EU, we are highly unlikely to be able to get a deal from the States that is good for this country.
The other thing is that it takes years to negotiate a trade deal, we will not have anything signed the day after we leave the EU.
Project FEAR is alive and well :wink:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Project FEAR is alive and well :wink:
Whereas you are prepared to place this country's future in the hand of some speculative whims and distant possibilities. Grow up please - this is serious.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
Brexit has cost the economy £550 million a week since the referendum. Put that on the side of the bus :biggrin:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4109216.html
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Anyone who says they need us more than we need them is 100% barmy.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
"The EU will also have to deal with Trump, who is going to aggressively renegotiate their current trade deal."
And then
"We can make a trade deal with the US on the day we leave"
I mean...Bloody hell.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
speedyblue
I would suggest history would suggest different, Napoleon certainly spent plenty of years fighting the rest of Europe
and the result was??????????????????????????????????//
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
Whereas you are prepared to place this country's future in the hand of some speculative whims and distant possibilities. Grow up please - this is serious.
no its not. If you believe anything being discussed on this board is "Serious" you lead a very quiet and un-serious life. good luck to you. :wave:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Anyone who says they need us more than we need them is 100% barmy.
What's barmy is living in a country where half of the people are scared of their own shadows :thumbup:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
no its not. If you believe anything being discussed on this board is "Serious" you lead a very quiet and un-serious life. good luck to you. :wave:
So because it's discussed on here, it's not serious? People have been laid off already and brexit hasn't even happened yet.
Unfortunately, the people who don't think it's serious have the same voting power as those who do.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
lardy
"The EU will also have to deal with Trump, who is going to aggressively renegotiate their current trade deal."
And then
"We can make a trade deal with the US on the day we leave"
I mean...Bloody hell.
Cognitive dissonance is so strong among certain sectors.
It’s not worth debating on this board, there has not even after all these pages been one decent reason given to leave that isn’t completely easily proved to be nonsense.
The brexit people were sold doesn’t exist, anyone who still wants it is happy for the country to become an economic backwater just so they can say they’ve “won”.
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Swiss Peter
Whereas you are prepared to place this country's future in the hand of some speculative whims and distant possibilities. Grow up please - this is serious.
You've been listening to too much of that serious BBC stuff :biggrin:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Cognitive dissonance is so strong among certain sectors.
It’s not worth debating on this board, there has not even after all these pages been one decent reason given to leave that isn’t completely easily proved to be nonsense.
The brexit people were sold doesn’t exist, anyone who still wants it is happy for the country to become an economic backwater just so they can say they’ve “won”.
They tell me if you had cognitive dissonance, then you probably wouldn't be aware of it :wink:
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Re: Stay in the EU petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
no its not. If you believe anything being discussed on this board is "Serious" you lead a very quiet and un-serious life. good luck to you. :wave:
Ah ok. Brexit is just a bit of message board banter for you then?. Good to know so that those of us who think that Brexit is actually serious can just ignore you.
I lead a quiet and unserious life? I wish... :hehe: