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jon1959
What does peace mean to you?
If it is just an end to the killing - the first step followed by massive injection of aid and the release of Israeli and Palestinian hostages - Trump could have done that in the first weeks of his administration, as Biden could have done before him.
Peace surely means a political settlement that offers the best chance of security and justice to all the people of Israel and Palestine.
The Trump Plan doesn’t do that. If you can call it a plan.
But he is desperate to get that prize!
Obviously you different stages to peace. A ceasefire, initial peace (ending the war) and long term peace.
The first one there is critical and saves a few lives but doesn't count. Ending the war counts, but it doesn't count much if it starts again six months later.
So a long term viable peace is what counts. That is of course harder to achieve and harder to achieve the success of. We had peace in Europe after worlf war 2. Was it viable and long term for example. I'd argue not, but it took 20+ years for that to manifest itself.
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MOZZER2
a prosecutor for the justice department . claims he has spied on at least 8 republicans during his time in office under sleepy joe . think he was involved in the trump coup too when they raided his home
I heard lardy is a fan.
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jon1959
Surely he must be the clear favourite to win the 2025 Nobed Prize?
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Wales-Bales
Surely he must be the clear favourite to win the 2025 Nobed Prize?
He never sleeps! A Big Mac and a Truth Social account is all the Great Man needs!
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Thoughts with the guardian on days like today. They may need to print some balance!?
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JamesWales
Thoughts with the guardian on days like today. They may need to print some balance!?
No idea what that means but they have just printed that Donald J Trump has not been awarded the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize!
Temper tantrum incoming!
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jon1959
No idea what that means but they have just printed that Donald J Trump has not been awarded the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize!
Temper tantrum incoming!
Hopefully after a period of quiet reflection James will take the news with a little more stoicism than you predict. Not sure about some of the other fawns on here though!
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Oh dear.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1l80g1qe4gt
It does say the nominations had to be in by January mind, so, realistically, he was never going to win it this year.
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jon1959
No idea what that means but they have just printed that Donald J Trump has not been awarded the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize!
Temper tantrum incoming!
Just pointing out that it must be tough in the editorial office there to pump out another daily negative article! Accuracy v advertising £££ is tough sometimes!
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the other bob wilson
Indeed.
If he has any sense (!!) he will warmly congratulate her, which he should do considering who her political enemy is.
Even if he does help to achieve peace in Palestine/Israel, it's way to early for any awards.
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the other bob wilson
It's almost as if his threat to annex Greenland and the Panama Canal in the time he had in office before nominations closed somehow went against him!
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JamesWales
Just pointing out that it must be tough in the editorial office there to pump out another daily negative article! Accuracy v advertising £££ is tough sometimes!
I can't see much negativity with it to be honest but nonetheless we must all be grateful Shirley that the Nobel Awards committee is impartial and free from fear or favour. Congratulations to the Venezuelan winner.
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JamesWales
Just pointing out that it must be tough in the editorial office there to pump out another daily negative article! Accuracy v advertising £££ is tough sometimes!
I have no doubt that Trump is probably furious and his photo opportunity has gone for this year,
however, the moment they gave the award to Renegade, it was devalued.
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If only the Guardian could be as positive with its news as The Daily Mail :shrug:
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Dorcus
I can't see much negativity with it to be honest but nonetheless we must all be grateful Shirley that the Nobel Awards committee is impartial and free from fear or favour. Congratulations to the Venezuelan winner.
Yeah it's great news and whilst I don't know her full story, what has been happening in Venezuela, with all the resources at it's disposal is a very sad story.
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...se-qatar-base/
Apparently MAGA is a bit sniffy about a chunk of Idaho coming under Sharia Law.
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JamesWales
Yeah it's great news and whilst I don't know her full story, what has been happening in Venezuela, with all the resources at it's disposal is a very sad story.
of course you don't but ya coulda if you did a bit of research and homework.
Now as we all know the governments in many south american countries are corrupt! Take brazil for example that just got 20b from Igolf Shitler. just because you live in a back hole corrupt country, doesn't mean you can't win the NPP. you should know , you live in one :biggrin:
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jon1959
Revenge of TOCO!
Attachment 6676
As President Trump’s National Security Advisor, John Bolton spent many of 453 days in the room where it happened, and the facts speak for themselves.
The result is a “scathing and revelatory” (The New Yorker) White House memoir that is the most comprehensive and substantial account of the Trump Administration, and one of the few to date by a top-level official. With almost daily access to the President, John Bolton has produced a precise rendering of his days in and around the Oval Office. What Bolton saw astonished him: a President for whom getting reelected was the only thing that mattered, even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation. “I am hard-pressed to identify any significant Trump decision during my tenure that wasn’t driven by reelection calculations,” he writes. In fact, he argues that the House committed impeachment malpractice by keeping its prosecution focused narrowly on Ukraine when Trump’s Ukraine-like transgressions existed across the full range of his foreign policy—and Bolton documents exactly what those were, and attempts by him and others in the Administration to raise alarms about them.
He shows a President addicted to chaos, who embraced our enemies and spurned our friends, and was deeply suspicious of his own government. In Bolton’s telling, all this helped put Trump on the bizarre road to impeachment. “The differences between this presidency and previous ones I had served were stunning,” writes Bolton, who worked for Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43. He discovered a President who thought foreign policy is like closing a real estate deal—about personal relationships, made-for-TV showmanship, and advancing his own interests. As a result, the US lost an opportunity to confront its deepening threats, and in cases like China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea ended up in a more vulnerable place.
https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/b.../9781982148041
Former Trump national security adviser indicted
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgql2qzkz5zo
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jon1959
I thought...Canary...maybe that's grown up as a media source since I was reading it a few years ago..
..read literally the first word of the article and realised it hasn't
🤦
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JamesWales
I thought...Canary...maybe that's grown up as a media source since I was reading it a few years ago..
..read literally the first word of the article and realised it hasn't
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No The Canary can still be an annoyingly crude site for stories that broadly reflect left wing politics. It has been good with its coverage of benefits and disability rights, very good with its coverage from inside Gaza, and completely lunatic with its regular horoscope!
But leaving aside the style and focus of the site - how excited are you by the idea of an Arc de Trump in Washington?
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jon1959
No The Canary can still be an annoyingly crude site for stories that broadly reflect left wing politics. It has been good with its coverage of benefits and disability rights, very good with its coverage from inside Gaza, and completely lunatic with its regular horoscope!
But leaving aside the style and focus of the site - how excited are you by the idea of an Arc de Trump in Washington?
It's ridiculous, although the name is funny enough that I could be swayed!
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jon1959
That’s exactly what we need in DC…more bleeding monuments/memorials.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-events-states
Americans across all 50 states began marching in protests against the Trump administration on Saturday, aligning behind a message that the country is sliding into authoritarianism and there should be no kings in the US.
Millions of people have turned out for the No Kings protests, the second iteration of a coalition that marched in June in one of the largest days of protest in US history. Events are scheduled for more than 2,700 locations, from small towns to large cities, reflecting a decentralization in an anti-Donald Trump protest movement that focused on demonstrations in Washington DC during his first presidency.
The rallies are a turnaround from just six months ago, when Democrats seemed at a loss as to how to counter Republicans’ grip of the White House and both houses of Congress after stinging national election losses.
“What we are seeing from the Democrats is some spine,” Ezra Levin, a co-founder of Indivisible, a key organizing group, told the Associated Press. “The worst thing the Democrats could do right now is surrender.”
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This thread will never make it to 300 pages.
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jon1959
Communism is a hell of a thing :biggrin:
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jon1959
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-events-states
Americans across all 50 states began marching in protests against the Trump administration on Saturday, aligning behind a message that the country is sliding into authoritarianism and there should be no kings in the US.
Millions of people have turned out for the No Kings protests, the second iteration of a coalition that marched in June in one of the largest days of protest in US history. Events are scheduled for more than 2,700 locations, from small towns to large cities, reflecting a decentralization in an anti-Donald Trump protest movement that focused on demonstrations in Washington DC during his first presidency.
The rallies are a turnaround from just six months ago, when Democrats seemed at a loss as to how to counter Republicans’ grip of the White House and both houses of Congress after stinging national election losses.
“What we are seeing from the Democrats is some spine,” Ezra Levin, a co-founder of Indivisible, a key organizing group, told the Associated Press. “The worst thing the Democrats could do right now is surrender.”
Trump disputes the King label.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...98251623299921
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Wales-Bales
Communism is a hell of a thing :biggrin:
It certainly is. :biggrin:
But what has that got to do with a self-styled Democratic Socialist who caucuses with the Democrats (the party of Clintons and Biden)? :shrug:
Has your political identification dial been 'tampered with' by your MAGA mates? You know, the ones who constantly call mild-mannered Church-going liberals 'the radical left'? :sherlock:
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Wales-Bales
Final proof!
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Over 7 million on the 'No Kings' ('No Dictators, No Tyrants') protests at the weekend!
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jon1959
Over 7 million on the 'No Kings' ('No Dictators, No Tyrants') protests at the weekend!
Sorry to say orange face said very poor turnout he is a knob
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jeepster
Sorry to say orange face said very poor turnout he is a knob
Yep - a chicken-chinned (thanks Time!) knob with rapidly deteriorating mental capabilities - and a Timotei hairpiece.
I think JD Vance is already eyeing the bling in the Oval Office with a smile on his face!
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-doj-...y?id=126731700
Trump to sue the Department of Justice for £230 million - for their investigations into his wrongdoing - and says he will be the one to make the final decision on the claim (although he won't be the only one signing it off).
Amazing.
A President boasting that he will enrich himself via a lawsuit payoff from his own government (funded by US taxpayers), and he sees it (as does a large part of the press/media) as a good news story, or at least not a damaging one!
He did make a throw away claim that any settlement would go to charity.
I assume Trump Towers, Mar A Lago and the Trump International Golf Course near Aberdeen are all registered charities?
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...or-projections
No further action by police against Led By Donkeys - for the Trump-Epstein projections.
Still, I'm sure Starmer got brownie points at the time from King Don.
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jon1959
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-doj-...y?id=126731700
Trump to sue the Department of Justice for £230 million - for their investigations into his wrongdoing - and says he will be the one to make the final decision on the claim (although he won't be the only one signing it off).
Amazing.
A President boasting that he will enrich himself via a lawsuit payoff from his own government (funded by US taxpayers), and he sees it (as does a large part of the press/media) as a good news story, or at least not a damaging one!
He did make a throw away claim that any settlement would go to charity.
I assume Trump Towers, Mar A Lago and the Trump International Golf Course near Aberdeen are all registered charities?
If I was a conspiracist then I would calculate the cost of the White House Versailles Ballroom then deduct the suggested contributions from globalist benefactors to date.
After that see if the difference is the amount that Trump is asking his previous lawyer, now deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche to reimburse him from public funds for the humiliation of thinking he was on the wrong side of the law.
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