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delmbox
imagine your grandad doing stuff like this on this internet :hehe: :hehe:
Looks like the effects of those little mushrooms on the barbie at the weekend are still lingering.
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cyril evans awaydays
Looks like the effects of those little mushrooms on the barbie at the weekend are still lingering.
Curioser and curioser. What will they do when Trump redacts himself, Republican friends and the business elites out of the Epstein files? I sense huge tumult in MAGA World and our CCMB friends may not end up on the winning side of the divide.
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delmbox
imagine your grandad doing stuff like this on this internet :hehe: :hehe:
Bite Bite Bite :hehe:
Titter you may :hehe: but in the background you and your crew, pulled your trousers down, bent over and allowed a Toxin without an established trial to be injected into you.
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delmbox
imagine your grandad doing stuff like this on this internet :hehe: :hehe:
Take care Delm. You never know which Roger Hargreaves incarnation of HeathBlue you might bump into. Mr Wind-Up or Mr Triggered!
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So what are people expecting from these files then?!
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JamesWales
So what are people expecting from these files then?!
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I actually hope this is the case because the people's fury will be frightening and guess who will suffer the brunt of it!
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cyril evans awaydays
Take care Delm. You never know which Roger Hargreaves incarnation of HeathBlue you might bump into. Mr Wind-Up or Mr Triggered!
I do enjoy it when he gets angry and sweary, and Mr I'm being stalked :hehe:
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Dorcus
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I actually hope this is the case because the people's fury will be frightening and guess who will suffer the brunt of it!
A lot of redactions is my assumption too, alongside a bit of red meat for both sides and a lot of insinuations along the way.
I don't think a huge swathe of redactions will cut the mustard now though. Too far down the line.
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delmbox
I do enjoy it when he gets angry and sweary, and Mr I'm being stalked :hehe:
Looks like Cyril has a new BFF , 🤣 🤣 🤣
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delmbox
imagine your grandad doing stuff like this on this internet :hehe: :hehe:
Most grandads don't even know what the internet is, so give HB some credit for being out there!
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Heathblue
That's only one of Big Tish's homes isn't it ? :hehe::hehe:
Imagine going after the president with made up charge only to find yourself answering charges for the same accusation
BOOMerang :hehe: :hehe:
I heard they are running out of Lawyers in DC :biggrin:
Lardy & Cyril, the massive, and their view of the world will disappear down the Maes-Y-Coed road sink hole
The amusing side of this will be watching the big noises squealing on each other to keep themselves out of Jail and the BBC, CNN etc. stc. having to report it, I might even take my Guardian block off and post link after link :biggrin:
Expecting familiar MB names to disappear and a whole batch of new names to appear,
TBH i didn't see the wrecking ball on its way based on the initial 6 months but it now seems that the cases were being put together away from the public and without the usual leaks, some of the big OMB accounts are suggesting mid-fall as hammer time, i do now think that we will see the Epstein list.
"Think logically.
No outside comms.
JUSTICE.
Q"
The ace sleuth Eagle Ed Martin that Trump (sorry Bondi) put in charge of the prosecutions of Adam Schiff and Letitia James now, along with another dopey lackey called Bill Pulte, under investigation by Trump's own Justice Department for procedural idiocy.
You could not make this level of incompetence up. Presumably because any capable prosecutor would not go near this with a bargepole so the feckwits are flying by the seat of their nappies.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court...investigation/
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cyril evans awaydays
The ace sleuth Eagle Ed Martin that Trump (sorry Bondi) put in charge of the prosecutions of Adam Schiff and Letitia James now, along with another dopey lackey called Bill Pulte, under investigation by Trump's own Justice Department for procedural idiocy.
You could not make this level of incompetence up. Presumably because any capable prosecutor would not go near this with a bargepole so the feckwits are flying by the seat of their nappies.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court...investigation/
Nothing happens by accident.
'Q'
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Wales-Bales
Nothing happens by accident.
'Q'
Poor Lardy, been dumped like a sack of shit for a new BFF.
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Heathblue
Poor Lardy, been dumped like a sack of shit for a new BFF.
That's two or three attempts at wind-up humour on the bounce. I guess we can't be too far away from a 25 line paragraph of conspiracist diatribe and barely supressed angst!
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cyril evans awaydays
That's two or three attempts at wind-up humour on the bounce. I guess we can't be too far away from a 25 line paragraph of conspiracist diatribe and barely supressed angst!
I'll take a 25 line paragraph over a 7-year Russia Collusion propaganda hoax every day of the week!
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cyril evans awaydays
That's two or three attempts at wind-up humour on the bounce. I guess we can't be too far away from a 25 line paragraph of conspiracist diatribe and barely supressed angst!
Hi Cyril, I sit here OK with no toxins injected into my arm, it would appear that the vaccine disciples are becoming increasingly agitated as the news is dripped out bit bit bit, no need to take it out on me, you had a choice, i did see in another fred that you lost your FIL during the Scamdemic and for which, you and your family have my sincere condolences, ours like the majority i'm guessing also lost a loved one during this period, my late father and his brother were denied to see their younger sister as she died in awful circumstances and the indignity of only 10 people at the funeral, and not being allowed to comfort each other, I could get really angry about this, and i do, and make no excuses for it, I was one of the ones who had to witness her funeral on a phone.
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Heathblue
Poor Lardy, been dumped like a sack of shit for a new BFF.
I hope he's doing ok, it's unlike him to miss any opportunity of popping in to shower us with more fake news propaganda. Maybe someone with a direct line could check up on him?
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Wales-Bales
I hope he's doing ok, it's unlike him to miss any opportunity of popping in to shower us with more fake news propaganda. Maybe someone with a direct line could check up on him?
The new BFF will be quiet today, he's gone to a pink ladies MARCH in Chelmsford :biggrin:
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What we’re becoming - the BBC should be ashamed of themselves.
https://youtu.be/LHMHRYpDcXE?si=T3BWPkoalblpVtZn
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the other bob wilson
The word they were looking for is propaganda, not criticism. More brainwashing from the ex-BBC employee!
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Yeah I mean I should imagine most of us think Trump should take the win and not go down the legal route, but he's well within his rights to be pissed off.
Stitching together a speech to say something else is Soviet era stuff. Trump threatening to sue doesn't make him the bad guy, it still makes the BBC wrong.
Im not sure the newsagents guys being outraged about it is quite as helpful as they think.
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JamesWales
Yeah I mean I should imagine most of us think Trump should take the win and not go down the legal route, but he's well within his rights to be pissed off.
Stitching together a speech to say something else is Soviet era stuff. Trump threatening to sue doesn't make him the bad guy, it still makes the BBC wrong.
Im not sure the newsagents guys being outraged about it is quite as helpful as they think.
The end justifies the means
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JamesWales
Yeah I mean I should imagine most of us think Trump should take the win and not go down the legal route, but he's well within his rights to be pissed off.
Stitching together a speech to say something else is Soviet era stuff. Trump threatening to sue doesn't make him the bad guy, it still makes the BBC wrong.
Im not sure the newsagents guys being outraged about it is quite as helpful as they think.
No comment about the BBC caving in to pressure from Trump and editing a programme which contained a derogatory reference to him then?
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It's long, so didn't listen to most of it. Is it separate to the wider issue of the edited video?
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JamesWales
It's long, so didn't listen to most of it. Is it separate to the wider issue of the edited video?
Yes.
It is a different 'scandal' than the editing/conflating of Trump's 'speech' before the Capitol riots.
It is the censorship of this year's Reith lecture by Rutger Bregman - for fear of offending Donald Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...cture-on-trump
It is corporate cowardice and misrepresentation from the BBC Board.
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So you didn’t watch it all James, but you felt you could make a comment about the presenters being “outraged”. If they were outraged, it wasn’t because of news from a fortnight or more ago (why would they make a podcast about the BBC’s stupid mistake in the editing of that programme about Trump now?), it was because of the very concerning censorship of a small part of the Reith Lecture because it was critical of Donald Trump.
I think they had a right to be outraged.
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-reith-lecture
BBC presenters and journalists have been told they cannot quote a line removed from its prestigious annual lecture, in which a Dutch writer accused Donald Trump of being “the most openly corrupt president in American history”.
Rutger Bregman accused the BBC of cowardice after it decided to remove the line from the first of his Reith lectures, which he was invited to give by the corporation. The BBC said the decision was made after it received legal advice.
Trump has threatened to sue the BBC for up to $5bn (£3.8bn) for the way Panorama edited a speech he gave on the day of the Capitol riots in January 2021.
BBC outlets have been told not to repeat Bregman’s corruption allegation against Trump even in its news coverage of the decision to cut the line from the speech.
In an episode of BBC Radio 4’s Media Show that discussed Bregman’s claims of censorship, the presenter Ros Atkins said: “Also, for legal reasons, we’re not able to tell you what that line is.”
An earlier article on the BBC News website covering the edit of Bregman’s speech stated: “BBC News is not repeating the line in question on the same legal advice.”
Bregman said the BBC’s decision to not even mention his comments in news coverage suggested deeper problems.
“If BBC journalists are not allowed to mention a sentence in a story about censorship, then the problem is far bigger than one line in my lecture,” he said. “That is precisely the dynamic my first Reith lecture describes: institutions censoring themselves out of fear of those in power.
“It’s essential that the British public learn who made this decision, when, and on what grounds. I was told the decision was made because of US lawyers. But lawyers don’t make decisions. Leaders do. And I share this with full respect for BBC journalists, who do crucial work under increasingly difficult conditions.”
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the other bob wilson
So you didn’t watch it all James, but you felt you could make a comment about the presenters being “outraged”. If they were outraged, it wasn’t because of news from a fortnight or more ago (why would they make a podcast about the BBC’s stupid mistake in the editing of that programme about Trump now?), it was because of the very concerning censorship of a small part of the Reith Lecture because it was critical of Donald Trump.
I think they had a right to be outraged.
I didn't watch it all, no. It was quite a long video.
It is clearly connected to the wider story though. The BBC clearly obtained legal advice not to air the comment in light of what's going on. I assume that's because accusing someone of a crime (corruption) needs to be backed up.
I do worry about free speech, but it seems the speech was freely made, the BBC just chose not to broadcast every word. I can understand why in the circumstances tbh.
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JamesWales
I didn't watch it all, no. It was quite a long video.
It is clearly connected to the wider story though. The BBC clearly obtained legal advice not to air the comment in light of what's going on. I assume that's because accusing someone of a crime (corruption) needs to be backed up.
I do worry about free speech, but it seems the speech was freely made, the BBC just chose not to broadcast every word. I can understand why in the circumstances tbh.
You've never got it about what a slippery slope we're on have you? Does Trump ever "back up" what he says with hard evidence when he accuses political opponents of corruption or dismisses media stories against him as "fake news"?
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the other bob wilson
You've never got it about what a slippery slope we're on have you? Does Trump ever "back up" what he says with hard evidence when he accuses political opponents of corruption or dismisses media stories against him as "fake news"?
I don't have to believe we are on a slippery slope, if I don't think we are.
Are you saying that the BBC should have overriden their legal advice?
I'm more worried about restrictions on our own freedoms tbh
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JamesWales
I don't have to believe we are on a slippery slope, if I don't think we are.
Are you saying that the BBC should have overriden their legal advice?
I'm more worried about restrictions on our own freedoms tbh
Yes.
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the other bob wilson
Yes.
Well that was never going to happen.
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Is Trump on the verge of joining Obamas war mongering club by going into Venezuela?
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Heathblue
Is Trump on the verge of joining Obamas war mongering club by going into Venezuela?
He joined the warmongering club years ago - despite the ritualistic claims by his followers that he is 'different'.
Don't you remember Syria, Yemen and Iran?
That was before Trump and Hegseth started to blow up fishing boats in international waters - illegal posturing even if you believe that they were 'narco boats'. The body count is going up every day.
Trump obviously wants regime change in Venezuela - lots of lovely profits there for the Trump organisation and his golf buddies - but I would be very surprised if he puts 'boots on the ground'. Blockade and proxy war more likely.
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Heathblue
Is Trump on the verge of joining Obamas war mongering club by going into Venezuela?
Think he has enough on his hands with Russia, mind you despite Putin trying to big Russia up saying they are ready for war ( they can’t even overcome a former soviet state at the moment) he’s already lost almost a million men in the little military operation, word on the street is he hasn’t got that many left…..:shrug: or will he just keep using North Koreans?
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goats
Think he has enough on his hands with Russia, mind you despite Putin trying to big Russia up saying they are ready for war ( they can’t even overcome a former soviet state at the moment) he’s already lost almost a million men in the little military operation, word on the street is he hasn’t got that many left…..:shrug: or will he just keep using North Koreans?
Proxy wars are complicated.
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Heathblue
Is Trump on the verge of joining Obamas war mongering club by going into Venezuela?
Isn't that where the election machines were situated?
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jon1959
He joined the warmongering club years ago - despite the ritualistic claims by his followers that he is 'different'.
Don't you remember Syria, Yemen and Iran?
That was before Trump and Hegseth started to blow up fishing boats in international waters - illegal posturing even if you believe that they were 'narco boats'. The body count is going up every day.
Trump obviously wants regime change in Venezuela - lots of lovely profits there for the Trump organisation and his golf buddies - but I would be very surprised if he puts 'boots on the ground'. Blockade and proxy war more likely.
AND ....he wants the Nobel Peace Prize when he declares this new war over
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goats
Think he has enough on his hands with Russia, mind you despite Putin trying to big Russia up saying they are ready for war ( they can’t even overcome a former soviet state at the moment) he’s already lost almost a million men in the little military operation, word on the street is he hasn’t got that many left…..:shrug: or will he just keep using North Koreans?
As long as he has nuclear weapons he'll take on anyone