There’ll be those who will see who this was made by and just ignore it, but why on earth should we maintain a “special relationship” with people like this?
https://youtu.be/t3Y_ozT_p3g
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There’ll be those who will see who this was made by and just ignore it, but why on earth should we maintain a “special relationship” with people like this?
https://youtu.be/t3Y_ozT_p3g
Its about money. for maintaining a special relationship.We shouldn't want association with them. They voted Trump in.
Evil horrible racists.
We have them in our country of course. More of a significant minority and you've just got to pray with our electoral system they don't find power.
Liz Truss is an embarrassment her parents must be so proud.
Not sure if this has been posted on here before. No doubt many of you would have seen this on social media doing the rounds. It’s an accurate description of Trump by British writer Nate White:
"Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”
‘A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
‘Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever.
‘And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
‘Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
‘And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
‘And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
‘There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
‘So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
‘This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
‘God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
‘And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?’ If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”
Nate White
What's the end game and who benefits?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
He’s encapsulated it all for me - Trump has no saving graces whatsoever and although it’s not quite an Emperor’s New Clothes situation because there are millions, if not billions, of people in the world who see Trump for what he is, you do wonder why so many are devoted to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I’ve got to agree with the writer when he says Trump has never once made me laugh intentionally. Boris Johnson did once, but right wing populists always strike me as the most humourless of people - it’s the same with Farage, he’s never once made me laugh.
Another thing these “hard man” populists have in common is their ultra thin skin.
Dicky Tice, Honest Bob Jenrick and Soo Ella are barrels of funQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
His “flock” compare him to Jesus :facepalm:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm29...8d10d4374#post
Is Starmer still pretending that the UK is only facilitating 'defensive actions' in Iran? Spain and Italy (Italy led by a Trump fan!) have stopped the US using bases on their territory to bomb Iran - the UK hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
We are more dependent on US intelligence and nuclear weapons than those two countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
We are more in Trump's pocket? I know!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I really hope he goes tout suiteQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
It's almost like there is a lesson to learn from America, the left spent the whole election campaign talking down the boring centrist Kamala and they ended up with this shitshow instead.
It never seems to work out for the 'they are all the same' crew.
Unfiltered diplomacy?
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...51998782539414
Diplomacy or the rants of a lunatic who’s seeing this war unravel in front of his eyes, have a go a criticising him. You know you can do it. It’ll make you feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Lunatic , evil ?
A country who voted him in on the MAGA promise.
What does that say about a significant proportion of that countries population or his supporters out of the US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNEa1QshFj0Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
The unhinged meltdown of a narcissist because things aren't going how he wants them to, he doesn't care how many people die in orfer to gain control again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
On a side note, I wonder how MAGA would have reacted it Obama had said praise Allah at any time, let alone on the holiest day in the Christian calendar
The Greens and Lib Dems turning the heat up on Starmer, and challenging the hypocrisy of the UK government stance:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Zack Polanski, the Green party leader, is also calling for the government to urgently withdraw the military support it is giving the US.
In a message on social media Polanski, like Ed Davey (see 2.22pm), also indicated that he had read President Trump’s latest Truth Social message with horror. Polanski said the UK must stop American planes bombing Iran from British bases entirely.
The UK must immediately and unequivocally suspend support for the US military.
The Government have tried to appease him, then they tried to say they’re standing up to him.
Words aren’t enough - it’s time for action.
Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, has urged Keir Starmer to stop letting the US use British military bases for some of its Iran war operations to stop the UK being “an accomplice to war crimes”.
In a post on social media, Davey said that Donald Trump’s latest “shocking” threat to Iran made cancelling American use of British bases even more urgent.
And Davey also said that, if the UK does continue to allow the US to dispatch bombers from British soil for “defensive operations” (see 1.07pm), it should published details of the conditions that apply, monitor every flight that leaves and report to parliament on where those planes actually went.
Currently the government is giving almost no details about what exactly American planes flying to Iran from UK bases have been doing.
Davey said:
President Trump’s explicit threats to target civilian infrastructure in Iran signal a clear intent to breach international law. This places the UK government in a perilous position; by continuing to grant the US access to our airbases, the prime minister risks making the United Kingdom an accomplice to war crimes.
In an open letter to the PM, jointly written with Calum Miller, the Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesperson, and signed by Lib Dem MPs, Davey says:
Liberal Democrats supported your decisions not to allow UK bases to be used by the US in the initial attacks and to limit UK involvement to that required to defend our citizens, interests and allies in the face of illegal actions against them by Iran.
We have consistently pressed you and your ministers to clarify the limited grounds on which you subsequently authorised the US to launch attacks from UK bases. We have been told by the foreign secretary that it is consistent with long-established agreements and by you that the purpose will only be “defensive”. Despite repeated requests, this has not been clarified and your ministers have refused to confirm if the outcomes of US attacks launched from UK bases are being monitored, or to state whether they are sharing any monitoring data with the intelligence and security committee.
On Easter Sunday (5 April), President Trump issued a post on Truth Social that stated: “Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the ****in’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.”
This followed statements by President Trump and Defense Secretary Hegseth on 1 April that they would bomb Iran “back to the Stone Age” and a declaration on 26 March by Hegseth that US forces should use “overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy”.
I am sure you recognise that these remarks incite breaches of international law …
We therefore call on you, with urgency, to withdraw the access granted to US planes to use UK bases and to make a statement on how we will continue to work with our other allies to ensure protection for our citizens, interests and allies. If you will not do this, we call on you immediately to publish the conditions you have attached to this access to ensure it is only “defensive” and to commit to monitoring the outcomes of all sorties and to report these to parliament’s intelligence and security committee.
Unless you take these actions, you will place the UK and your government at grave risk of complicity with illegal actions by the US.
Trump's latest deranged post on Truth Social:
Attachment 6931
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...latest-updates
Meanwhile, Farage has clarified that he would allow the US to use UK bases to commit war crimes (destroy civilian infrastructure - and presumably kill many more civilians) if Trump could explain the 'end game'!
War crimes are OK if there is an exit strategy?
Yeah but ignore the racist rhetoric and their demonising of immigrants and backing Trump there are 1 or 2 things in their manifesto that may not be bad and proves without doubt they are not far Right.🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
And also their plans to decimate the NHS, fill out guts with chlorinated chicken and give everything to the rich elites by robbing the poor! What's not to like about them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Any of the Trump admirers on here still think he’s the man for the job?
TACO!
Thankfully.
His latest social media message talks of “big money to be made” - by himself of course.
I thought he was senile? And now he's a financial genius? :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
You can’t be senile while also.being obsessed by money then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Still can’t find it in your heart to criticise the loon then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Strange thing obsession. It could be Georgian footballers next!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The Art of the Deal is alive and kicking it seems. Each commercial vessel sailing through the Straights of Hormuz must now cough up $2m for Iran and Oman when previously free.
I always thought the losers paid reparations but live and learn.
He's definitely not a financial genius. I'm not sure he's senile even; however I'm certain he's a cretinQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
No wonder CCFC do the Ayatollah. He and his people have played a blinder! I nominate the latest Ayatollah as Man of the SeasonQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Ahh see now which country are you talking about??
Who doesn't like a bit of George?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
https://x.com/footballontnt/status/2041976228899426742
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Originally Posted by stevo
Well, he hasn’t answered my questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
Is a thief a financial genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I don't think the video helps in that most of us understand the way Trump is operating and where he is taking the US (and, to a degree, the world with it). However, have you seen this headline:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g89kkvenqo
This thread will never get to 300 pages :wave:
And you still sit on the fence you complete meltQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I came here to unravel the Lardy & Cyril Trump Russia Collusion hoax. Job done! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman