Re: Joe Ralls turned down contract extension?
This will be his last contract. If he can get more money somewhere else, he should take it. It's not like he's a star that will be showing up on the Sky TV panel when he retires. I've always rated him, but in over 10 years at the club he's played less than 300 games.
Re: Joe Ralls turned down contract extension?
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Pedro de la Rosa
In about 5 years time, Ralls will be earning 0 a week. So yes, I’d say £150k is important. This is his last big contract. The club has treated player after player like crap recently. If they threat Whitts like they did, they’ll treat anyone like dirt. It is no surprise Joe seems to be looking after number one.
who have they treated like crap?
Re: Joe Ralls turned down contract extension?
It might take a while in this window for players and clubs to work out what the going rate for players of their age and standard is, so I wouldn't be surprised if players don't accept offers on the table and see what they can get elsewhere.
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Pedro de la Rosa
In about 5 years time, Ralls will be earning 0 a week. So yes, I’d say £150k is important. This is his last big contract. The club has treated player after player like crap recently. If they threat Whitts like they did, they’ll treat anyone like dirt. It is no surprise Joe seems to be looking after number one.
I don't get this argument, there is nothing to stop him from earning once he finishes with football, he'll be mid 30's, plenty of time to pull up his boot straps!
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NYCBlue
This will be his last contract. If he can get more money somewhere else, he should take it. It's not like he's a star that will be showing up on the Sky TV panel when he retires. I've always rated him, but in over 10 years at the club he's played less than 300 games.
Whilst I agree he should be looking out for himself, he's played in over 300 games for Cardiff, considering his age when he arrived and a loan season not sure that's a stat to knock him with. Also, he can still work the best part of 30 years when he finishes playing so that's up to him.
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OurManFlint II
I don't get this argument, there is nothing to stop him from earning once he finishes with football, he'll be mid 30's, plenty of time to pull up his boot straps!
Ralls has zero qualifications outside of football, and he will be in his mid 30s. If he wants to do something outside of football, he’s going to have to start at the bottom when he’s not really lived in the real world at all.
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Rjk
who have they treated like crap?
Bamba and Whitts for a kick off
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Pedro de la Rosa
Bamba and Whitts for a kick off
I don't think we treated bamba like crap. we gave him a year extension on his contract at the age of 34 was it? while he was still recovering from a cruciate ligament injury.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Ralls has zero qualifications outside of football, and he will be in his mid 30s. If he wants to do something outside of football, he’s going to have to start at the bottom when he’s not really lived in the real world at all.
And? Like I said he's the best part of 30 years working ahead him, boot straps up!
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Rjk
I don't think we treated bamba like crap. we gave him a year extension on his contract at the age of 34 was it? while he was still recovering from a cruciate ligament injury.
He found out on Sky Sports
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Pedro de la Rosa
Ralls has zero qualifications outside of football, and he will be in his mid 30s. If he wants to do something outside of football, he’s going to have to start at the bottom when he’s not really lived in the real world at all.
Do you know for a fact Ralls has zero qualifications outside football.?
Even if he hasnt im he should have enough in the bank to support himself to get qualifications for roles outside of football if he wishes.
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WJ99mobile
There'll be a 2 tier wage structure in football before long
Elite players will be on £1m a week and the championship players will be back on beer tokens.
I wouldnt mind 12k a week in beer tokens.
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Hilts
Do you know for a fact Ralls has zero qualifications outside football.?
Even if he hasnt im he should have enough in the bank to support himself to get qualifications for roles outside of football if he wishes.
Almost all footballers have zero qualifications. They’ve been full time footballers since they were 16. There are sod all opportunities out there for young people, let alone 30+ with zero experience. If Ralls has the opportunity to make more money, he should absolutely take it.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Almost all footballers have zero qualifications. They’ve been full time footballers since they were 16. There are sod all opportunities out there for young people, let alone 30+ with zero experience. If Ralls has the opportunity to make more money, he should absolutely take it.
Maybe he’ll take over his old man’s business. I wouldn’t be to concerned about life after football in rallsy’s case.
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Whisperer
Maybe he’ll take over his old man’s business. I wouldn’t be to concerned about life after football in rallsy’s case.
Maybe he will, maybe he won’t. People always say “they’re paid loads so it doesn’t matter”. If you could get double to do the same job you would. If you could get paid enough to never work again after, you would. When Ralls isn’t good enough, the club won’t think twice about moving him on. Ralls is just an example. There is no loyalty in football from clubs so I don’t see why we should expect it from players. I want Ralls to stay but you can’t blame him for looking around. It’s our fault we’ve let it get to this situation.
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Whisperer
Maybe he’ll take over his old man’s business. I wouldn’t be to concerned about life after football in rallsy’s case.
This is it, i'm pushing 50 and still trying to work out what i'm doing with my life
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Trigger
You my not but most would happily move for an extra £312k a year.
For a championship player that would be massive. Ignoring bonuses, signing on fees and the possibility that this club would probably be in a better position to challenge.
All made up numbers atm to be fair, but as said above by someone else, if he were staying I'd have thought it would be done by now.
Someone who earned 1400 a month for their full time normal job is offered 2000 a month to dpnthe same job but move companies, you'd have to think most would take it. More things to consider, but put it to people in basic monetary terms and.more people take it than don't.
To us mere mortals the extra seems massive, but put it side by side and compare it with like for like pay increases for the same job and not many turn it down.
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dembethewarrior
Someone who earned 1400 a month for their full time normal job is offered 2000 a month to dpnthe same job but move companies, you'd have to think most would take it. More things to consider, but put it to people in basic monetary terms and.more people take it than don't.
To us mere mortals the extra seems massive, but put it side by side and compare it with like for like pay increases for the same job and not many turn it down.
For the likes of us in a reasonable commutable distance yes we would.
If he isn’t prepared to relocate or stay over too long thats far away - as the kids are settled in the area with schools etc. We are still very much a viable and maybe sensible option even at supposedly lower money than he may get further afield.
Thanks for 10 years service and all that but we Don’t owe him anything and there
are able and willing replacements who would relish the prospect of coming to us.
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19bluebirds27
For the likes of us in a reasonable commutable distance yes we would.
If he isn’t prepared to relocate or stay over too long thats far away - as the kids are settled in the area with schools etc. We are still very much a viable and maybe sensible option even at supposedly lower money than he may get further afield.
Thanks for 10 years service and all that but we Don’t owe him anything and there
are able and willing replacements who would relish the prospect of coming to us.
I like Ralls, but I think football has to move on and I'm glad we are now being sensible with our wages and trying to sort out our finances.
I know lads in my line of work that swap companies for an extra quid an hour.
People try to point out the big money in football and say the extra 2k a week he may get elsewhere shouldn't matter when they earn such big money already, but you can't blame them for doing so, because in a like for like scenario most of us would be gone.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Potentially but 12k a week will not be "big money" for the the top earner in a Championship squad, especially one that Morison says is top 5 in the division.
I dont think he merits more, good game every 4 or 5. It’s not enough