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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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SLUDGE FACTORY
As for the train station are there any plans to rip up cardiff central as , unless money is the object we surely need a bigger station
IIRC Network Rail owns the station and there was talk of redeveloping it about 10 years ago that came to nothing. Can't see anything happening any time soon.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
nomad blue
IIRC Network Rail owns the station and there was talk of redeveloping it about 10 years ago that came to nothing. Can't see anything happening any time soon.
If new stations are opened to take pressure off central that would be good
Say queen's Street expansion
Or this much talked about Eastern Parkway
But if nothing happens surely just adding another platform on the southern end , by the existing car park ...to cater for Cardiff Bay.....is just faffing about ?
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
2026 ?
Ff sake
If Bristol build one before us then that will be first on the big gig circuit and get established
I read that the capacity is going to be reduced which isn't a bad thing
15000 seems a bit ambitious
Big arenas in the UK from Scotland down ....
Glasgow
Newcastle
Leeds
Sheffield
Manchester
Liverpool
Nottingham
Birmingham
London
Then Cardiff , if its built ?
That's a huge arc of Swansea, Cardiff , Newport , Valleys , Bristol , Bath , Gloucester , Swindon, Exeter
I suppose Southampton , Portsmouth etc would come under Brighton Arena
So it's between us and the wurzels
I would think if or when Bristol build anything then the extra hour to us will be a factor
This has taken years
They have had extensive discussions with local residents which has obviously slowed things up. I'd say that is a good thing though.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
Are Live Nation involved in Bristol? If they’re not then it will never be competition for a Live Nation run Cardiff arena.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
nomad blue
IIRC Network Rail owns the station and there was talk of redeveloping it about 10 years ago that came to nothing. Can't see anything happening any time soon.
Like the bus station, it'll be on commuter wish lists for years yet.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
He's not a city Councillor, he's a Welsh assembly representative
And you don't think that the Welsh Assembly has any influence over the City Council ?!! Drakeford and his cronies will be all over this like a rash. The only access to any new stadium will be by bus, tram, train or on foot. Or by luxury diesel limousine, so that ‘dignitaries’ can gain full and easy access.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
And you don't think that the Welsh Assembly has any influence over the City Council ?!! Drakeford and his cronies will be all over this like a rash. The only access to any new stadium will be by bus, tram, train or on foot. Or by luxury diesel limousine, so that ‘dignitaries’ can gain full and easy access.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any significant car park specifically provided for the Principality Stadium and that does fine, and was built 24 years ago. It's hardly a new idea.
Would you rather the arena be built in some random outer suburb that gets flooded with thousands of car users? That sounds appealing.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Der Kaiser
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any significant car park specifically provided for the Principality Stadium and that does fine, and was built 24 years ago. It's hardly a new idea.
Would you rather the arena be built in some random outer suburb that gets flooded with thousands of car users? That sounds appealing.
I would think it would be better just off the M4 with a dedicated train station , car parks etc
The NEC Birmingham is an example
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
Der Kaiser
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any significant car park specifically provided for the Principality Stadium and that does fine, and was built 24 years ago. It's hardly a new idea.
Would you rather the arena be built in some random outer suburb that gets flooded with thousands of car users? That sounds appealing.
and the council makes a fortune by closing off the streets behind City Hall where you can normally park fora couple of quid and charge people £10 or more for the same facility.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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North Cardiff Blue
Ours will be better than Bristols as long as Drippy has nothing to do with it.
Why would he? What's his connection with Cardiff Council?
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
And you don't think that the Welsh Assembly has any influence over the City Council ?!! Drakeford and his cronies will be all over this like a rash. The only access to any new stadium will be by bus, tram, train or on foot. Or by luxury diesel limousine, so that ‘dignitaries’ can gain full and easy access.
When did you graduate with your PhD in talking bollocks?
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I would think it would be better just off the M4 with a dedicated train station , car parks etc
The NEC Birmingham is an example
Why are you comparing to the NEC? The NEC is a huge event and exhbition space in the middle of the country.
You are comparing apples with oranges.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
I have a place in Atlantic Wharf so I've taken an interest in this. There isn't any car parking so far as I'm aware. Hemingway Road will be blocked off and access to the south entrance to Schooner Way also blocked when there is an event on. There were discussions about giving some sort of access to residents but it's been rejected. So access would be via the Tyndall Road end.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Robin Friday's Ghost
I have a place in Atlantic Wharf so I've taken an interest in this. There isn't any car parking so far as I'm aware. Hemingway Road will be blocked off and access to the south entrance to Schooner Way also blocked when there is an event on. There were discussions about giving some sort of access to residents but it's been rejected. So access would be via the Tyndall Road end.
Do you live near the top end of Atlantic wharf ?
Near the old wharf pub if it's still there ?
Where the canal runs into the Dock?
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Do you live near the top end of Atlantic wharf ?
Near the old wharf pub if it's still there ?
Where the canal runs into the Dock?
I don't live there FT but yes.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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J R Hartley
Why are you comparing to the NEC? The NEC is a huge event and exhbition space in the middle of the country.
You are comparing apples with oranges.
Leeds Arena , located just off the A64 M , the link road around Leeds
To explain that to you think the Coryton interchange at the bottom of the A470
Leeds arena is about the same size of what we might have
So I hope that's a perfect example for you and it hasn't been too difficult for you to understand
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
Robin Friday's Ghost
I don't live there FT but yes.
Can I park in your place to go fishing in the canal ?
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Leeds Arena , located just off the A64 M , the link road around Leeds
To explain that to you think the Coryton interchange at the bottom of the A470
Leeds arena is about the same size of what we might have
So I hope that's a perfect example for you and it hasn't been too difficult for you to understand
Better in the city centre, but with a dedicated public transport system, park and rides etc. That's what is lacking, and people will take the risk of getting caught up in traffic if the costs are negligible. An arena in the centre brings business to the pubs, restaurants, shops etc, creates jobs, a vibrant city centre has much more value than an arena on the out skirts of town, same could be said of a football stadium. The problem is public transport.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Can I park in your place to go fishing in the canal ?
Atlantic Wharf Fishing Club has permission to use our car park which is a bit further towards Tyndall Street. Access is controlled by phone and only those registered can use it. They obviously have some arrangement but I don't know what it is I'm afraid. Send them a message?
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I would think it would be better just off the M4 with a dedicated train station , car parks etc
The NEC Birmingham is an example
Well that's not happening, it's based in Wales :hehe:
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Leeds Arena , located just off the A64 M , the link road around Leeds
To explain that to you think the Coryton interchange at the bottom of the A470
Leeds arena is about the same size of what we might have
So I hope that's a perfect example for you and it hasn't been too difficult for you to understand
Leeds Arena is just off the city centre you moron. :hehe: Coryton roundabout is about 5 miles away from Cardiff City centre.
You would argue black is white rather than see someone else’s point. You should transgender to being a woman.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Leeds Arena , located just off the A64 M , the link road around Leeds
To explain that to you think the Coryton interchange at the bottom of the A470
Leeds arena is about the same size of what we might have
So I hope that's a perfect example for you and it hasn't been too difficult for you to understand
Leeds Arena is closer to the city centre than the proposed Bay Arena.
It’s probably about as far from the centre of Leeds as the Civic Centre is from Cardiff.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
Canton Kev
Leeds Arena is closer to the city centre than the proposed Bay Arena.
It’s probably about as far from the centre of Leeds as the Civic Centre is from Cardiff.
Without checking, i would have thought that most of these Arenas would be within a few miles of a City Centre and not off some motorway junction. They're not airports.
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Canton Kev
Leeds Arena is closer to the city centre than the proposed Bay Arena.
It’s probably about as far from the centre of Leeds as the Civic Centre is from Cardiff.
15 minute walk if you are lucky
It's just off the ring road
What sort of road system has Cardiff got to deal with a big venue so close to the city ?
Leeds is surrounded by major road systems to disperse traffic quickly
We have the A4232 ......and that's it
Building these things in the middle of city's isn't a great idea
I wouldn't want to be living in South Cardiff when a gig or event is going on . Which could be 4 nights a week .
And if CCFC are at home ?
Good luck with all that
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Re: New Cardiff indoor musical arena
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Without checking, i would have thought that most of these Arenas would be within a few miles of a City Centre and not off some motorway junction. They're not airports.
Most of these arenas have decent motorway systems to disperse traffic
Leeds , Manchester , Sheffield
We have a few noddy roads