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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Anyway, Trump's plan with Johnson is a big part of the de-Globalization process, and UK will be a gateway into and out of the EU market for the US. America also needs the UK as a strong partner in NATO, and on the Security Council, so we do have some bargaining power.
Furthermore, Germany are about to turn on the funny money printing presses, along with possible negative interest rates, so I think it is fair to say that Trump has got the EU and China in a bit of a pickle at the moment, with no more free lunches on the table.
Of course it's not great for the multinational corporations, [B]but it will be good for the US and UK economies[
/B].
And in the grand scheme of things this is what will matter .( it will be good for the US and UK economies) thats all Workington man wants to see some benefits ?
Another 'wait and see' moment ,they are building up
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
And in the grand scheme of things this is what will matter .( it will be good for the US and UK economies) thats all Workington man wants to see some benefits ?
Another 'wait and see' moment ,they are building up
Well some of the waiting is over. The Department for International Trade reckons that an ambitious and far reaching deal with the US will grow the UK economy by as much as 0.16%.
By my crude maths that means we only need to find 30 more equivalent pump-priming deals with the rest of the world to compensate for the 4.9% hit (UK Treasury calculation) the economy will receive as a consequence of a Canada-style trade deal we are seeking with the EU.
Obviously if we walk away as we are threatening and go for what the Government is ridiculously calling an Australian-type deal (Clue Australia has no deal with the EU and trades on WTO terms) then the hit goes up to 7.6% or 48 countries with equivalent amount of trade to that we are seeking with the US.
The Government's answer to this was to rubbish its own calculations on the basis that they were made by the previous government. Wait and see what "alternative facts" they come up with I suppose.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Organ Morgan.
Remoaners and their beloved BBC would have trouble spinning that as a negative in spite of being afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome with their desire to continue being dominated by Germany and France while paying through the nose for the dubious privilege.
This new opinion poll will also confound those who are desperate to endure as forelock-tugging EU serfs.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b...?itok=bFGcy2_g
Bugger the statistics, voter democratic voice and behaviors are key here , just ask the Labour party and the Liberals ,who handed victory to Boris . :thumbup:
Bring It on USA
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Bugger the statistics, voter democratic voice and behaviors are key here , just ask the Labour party and the Liberals ,who handed victory to Boris . :thumbup:
Bring It on USA
I guess if I was afflicted by a compulsive urge to arrive home each day and make a comment on everything that has moved, regardless of how trite and inane that comment looked, I might choose to use a discredited poll from 18 months ago rather than yesterday's Government announcement that the best it can hope for a trade deal with the US is a boost that is thirty times smaller than leaving the single market and customs union.
Still Project Fear, suck it up Remoaners you lost and all that!
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I guess if I was afflicted by a compulsive urge to arrive home each day and make a comment on everything that has moved, regardless of how trite and inane that comment looked, I might choose to use a discredited poll from 18 months ago rather than yesterday's Government announcement that the best it can hope for a trade deal with the US is a boost that is thirty times smaller than leaving the single market and customs union.
Still Project Fear, suck it up Remoaners you lost and all that!
What a fact is we left Europe decided by the people twice.
We need trade deal with someone ( who knows this is poker to force Europe's hand ??)
America is not an evil empire they eat drink and trade well .
Project fear existed on bot sides of the referendum and last election everywhere concerning the evil USA .
The result of all this folk bought into the side of the fear they believed or wanted.
Polls are polls , results are results
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
What a fact is we left Europe decided by the people twice.
We need trade deal with someone ( who knows this is poker to force Europe's hand ??)
America is not an evil empire they eat drink and trade well .
Project fear existed on bot sides of the referendum and last election everywhere concerning the evil USA .
The result of all this folk bought into the side of the fear they believed or wanted.
Polls are polls , results are results
What, we advertise how poor the relative deal we are seeking with the US is going to be just before we begin trade talks with the EU. Proper Bret Maverick stuff that, fair play!
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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cyril evans awaydays
What, we advertise how poor the relative deal we are seeking with the US is going to be just before we begin trade talks with the EU. Proper Bret Maverick stuff that, fair play!
Wait and see moment, politics is very clever world , its the same with the chatter on Huawei ,all to play for .
Poker is not just about showing what you have or not have in your hand its about confusion ,the deal is probably done this is media grab stuff
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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life on mars
Wait and see moment, politics is very clever world , its the same with the chatter on Huawei ,all to play for .
Poker is not just about showing what you have or not have in your hand its about confusion ,the deal is probably done this is media grab stuff
Thanks for the explanation on what is actually going on, I will always defer to you when it comes to confusion.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
What a fact is we left Europe decided by the people twice.
We need trade deal with someone ( who knows this is poker to force Europe's hand ??)
America is not an evil empire they eat drink and trade well .
Project fear existed on bot sides of the referendum and last election everywhere concerning the evil USA .
The result of all this folk bought into the side of the fear they believed or wanted.
Polls are polls , results are results
I get the feeling that some people on the left are hoping that Britain fails.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I get the feeling that some people on the left are hoping that Britain fails.
What does success look like?
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What does success look like?
Your living it , if it doesn't fit there are many better fit socialist only countries , one could migrate too , where there no royals, Tories, ,aspiration, capitalism, lots of tanks and armed forces, internet strangled and monitored, protesters dealt with .Enjoy.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
How many members of the public have the foggiest idea of the consequences of a no-deal Brexit (or even of staying in the EU)? Most people tend to speak using superficial slogans rather than having detailed economic arguments.
Indeed hence the removal of assumption polls , and action deployed however it upsets folks because it's not thier party of choice ,we need to move on and be positive ,preying it's going to be a disaster is not helping anyone .
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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life on mars
Your living it , if it doesn't fit there are many better fit socialist only countries , one could migrate too , where there no royals, Tories, ,aspiration, capitalism, lots of tanks and armed forces, internet strangled and monitored, protesters dealt with .Enjoy.
Every post doesn't have to be an excuse for another one of your nonsensical word farts. I was asking him a genuine question as everybody's vision of Brexit is different. I don't know what the vision is anymore (is there one?) so how do I know if I am one of those people who wants it to fail?
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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life on mars
Indeed hence the removal of assumption polls , and action deployed however it upsets folks because it's not thier party of choice ,we need to move on and be positive ,preying it's going to be a disaster is not helping anyone .
It worked for brexiteers in the lead up to the referendum...
Now you tell me that we had 'success' all along, if Britain now is 'success' then why are you on here day and night cheerleading for Brexit? It's happening, the useful idiots can head back to their villages now.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
It worked for brexiteers in the lead up to the referendum...
Now you tell me that we had 'success' all along, if Britain now is 'success' then why are you on here day and night cheer leading for Brexit? It's happening, the useful idiots can head back to their villages now.
Try and be positive dear chap the decision is made , one i didn't want at the time when voting to remain , we but hey it happened no cheer leading just looking forward making the best of it rather than looking back and moaning
In my view our Islands are one of the greatest places on earth ,and happy to shout or cheer lead that on never perfect ,could be better but better than most
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
It worked for brexiteers in the lead up to the referendum...
Now you tell me that we had 'success' all along, if Britain now is 'success' then why are you on here day and night cheerleading for Brexit? It's happening, the useful idiots can head back to their villages now.
which useful village idiots are you referring too the electorate , friends, neighbours ,City fans , colleagues that dont agree with you ?
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
which useful village idiots are you referring too the electorate , friends, neighbours ,City fans , colleagues that dont agree with you ?
You mainly.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
As for this 'i love Britain the most' shite. I will celebrate what we do well and criticise what we don't. That is patriotism.
I didn't even criticise the country, merely asked 'what does success look like?' and your reaction was basically to tell me to go live somewhere else (you are the guy that always harps on about inclusivity right?).
You are a dangerous flag-waving nationalist, I dread to think what the government would need to do to lose your unwaivering support.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
You mainly.
How poor and disparaging a term to use, its a terminology used as a*stereotype*of the mentally disabled.
Modern Socialism at its best, lash out with insult and derogatory terminology .
Up the revolution.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
As for this 'i love Britain the most' shite. I will celebrate what we do well and criticise what we don't. That is patriotism.
I didn't even criticise the country, merely asked 'what does success look like?' and your reaction was basically to tell me to go live somewhere else (you are the guy that always harps on about inclusivity right?).
You are a dangerous flag-waving nationalist, I dread to think what the government would need to do to lose your unwaivering support.
No I don't harp on about inclusiveness, simply point out how poor the Corbyn Labour party uses it and fails to deploy it .
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
How poor and disparaging a term to use, its a terminology used as a*stereotype*of the mentally disabled.
Modern Socialism at its best, lash out with insult and derogatory terminology .
Up the revolution.
What a coincidence
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
Good try but that high horse you love to climb aboard bolted when you blamed Epstein's child victims for choosing to be trafficked and raped.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
What does success look like?
Judging by the stream of consciousness gibberish you had in response my guess would be increased Wetherspoons profits.
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
How poor and disparaging a term to use, its a terminology used as a*stereotype*of the mentally disabled.
Modern Socialism at its best, lash out with insult and derogatory terminology .
Up the revolution.
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life on mars
Moral Narcissist alert
:sherlock:
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Re: US-UK discussing 1st November trade deal
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Your living it , if it doesn't fit there are many better fit socialist only countries , one could migrate too , where there no royals, Tories, ,aspiration, capitalism, lots of tanks and armed forces, internet strangled and monitored, protesters dealt with .Enjoy.
They should be offered free flights to Moscow :biggrin: