It's also worth mentioning that Man Utd's season was over, so was ours. They played like it was. We had freedom after relegation. Had that game been a week earlier, we'd have never played that way. It was a bit like putting a cherry on a dog shit
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We seem to have come down and acknowledged that we're competing for 5th or 6th place at best while also making moves to have more sustainable success in the longer term. Is Harris doing enough to hit that new target? Think we're three players off it but one of those is the gap caused by NML's departure.
Around two years two to the day before Leeds gave Man City such a good game last night, we played Pep's team down here and they barely raised a sweat in winning 5-0 against a timid opponent who were beaten before a ball was kicked it seemed to me. True, the Man City side we faced looks quite a bit stronger than the current one based on what we've seen so far this season, but when you look at the Leeds side on paper, is it really that much stronger than ours was against Man City?
For me, there are still players at Leeds who were pretty ordinary Championship performers before Bielsa arrived, their success, and that of their current team mates, has an awful lot to do with their frame of mind. With hindsight, too many were taken in by Neil Warnock's "plucky little Cardiff" act and, certainly for the first couple of months of 18/19it seemed that fans and players alike felt we had no right to be in the Premier League - Warnock did superbly to get us up and deserves credit for putting together a squad which really could have survived that season, but with that attitude and things like his negativity and bizarre selection at already relegated Fulham, he held us back that season.
Harris left Millwall by ‘mutual consent’ = Sacked.
The supporters couldn’t wait to see the back of him, Millwall improved to almost make the Playoffs under Rowatt.
One fortunate promotion on his CV, via the Playoffs.
Warnock, the most promotions in this country’s football history.
I have no doubt we’d have made the Playoffs under him last season, we had one if the strongest squads in the division, he has great experience at this level.
I’ll let the record books and people with an ounce of common sense decide who’s the better manager.
X[QUOTE=Eric the Half a Bee;5123132]It's also worth mentioning that Man Utd's season was over, so was ours. They played like it was. We had freedom after relegation. Had that game been a week earlier, we'd have never played that way. It was a bit like putting a cherry on a dog shit[/QUOTE
The season’s positions in the table may have been already resolved but I won’t have it that Man Utd more or less let us win, they played the way they did because our performance dictated it. Yes, we played with the freedom of a doomed side but we were looking doomed before this game so why didn’t Warnock play with less caution in previous games? OK Man Utd weren’t the power of old but they were still comfortably in 6th place, not to be sniffed at, and were a more formidable unit than some of the teams that we threw the towel in against. Fulham away was a managerial disgrace, what were the stats? 6 shots on goal, all after their late winner when we decided to have a go, bloody scandalous, and that’s just one instance of our over cautious, plucky little Cardiff persona........against Fulham for f*ck’s sake!!!!!!
Strange thread didn't anyone notice our end of season results last year , did we make the play offs , didn't folk say " this is better football no so much hoof ball " "" hey Harris has got Tomlin Nelson , Smithies playing well "" ??
[QUOTE=splott parker;5123181]XDon’t get me wrong I still have the ultimate respect for the way Warnock dragged us up by our bootlaces, fantastic times which I’ll never forget but him and him alone buggered up any chance we had of Premier League survival. For such an outspoken and enthusiastic man the Premier League weirdly makes him melt unfortunately. It must grate on him that he will always be regarded as a top flight failure despite his many promotions, just bloody annoying that our club were one of the victims of his success/immediately followed by failure situations.
she's not even been elected...yet