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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Excluding Internationals, when he retired at 31 Giggs had played 672 'league matches'.
At 31 Bales has played 377.
Those stats represent 15yr periods for both players, so Giggs has played on average nearly 20 more games a season than Bale.
Giggs was born in 1973, and turned 31 in November of 04/05. By the end 03/4, from adding up on wikipedia, he had played 415 league games. Add on maybe 15 for those few months and that's only a difference of about three games a season.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Cleve van Leef
Has Bellamy abused women? Nothing has been said or written regarding that, he supposedly bullied youngsters, but that was brought against him apparently by parent who didn’t like his son being dropped from the team. Nothing actually proved.
What about taking a golf club to a fellow professionals kneecaps? I suppose that’s ok because the victim was a man?
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
What about taking a golf club to a fellow professionals kneecaps? I suppose that’s ok because the victim was a man?
As good as Bellamy and Giggs were, they are both nasty little ****ers!
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
Giggs has done so well for Wales but he’s ruined it being a **** of a human being
He should be loved like the other Wales managers before him but he’s totally spoilt it for himself, and if I’m honest for me as a fan.
I held my nose for a time after the Rhodri affair, some people deserve second chances but it’s obviously his true colours.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
There is no way at 30 there would be talk of Giggs going to China.
You are right, Fergie would never have allowed it :hehe: unless of course it was in some money-bags invitational game
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Excluding Internationals, when he retired at 31 Giggs had played 672 'league matches'.
At 31 Bales has played 377.
Those stats represent 15yr periods for both players, so Giggs has played on average nearly 20 more games a season than Bale.
Giggs never really suffered any major injuries though did he?
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Its been emotional
Craig Bellamy 78 caps
Dean Saunders 75 caps
Ian Rush 73 caps
Mark Hughes 72 caps
Does the same apply to these also?
Ramsey has just 65 caps in 13 years. That could also be argued as pathetic when comparing to Gunter. Both spent a similar period playing for their country.
Ramsey’s availability for Wales, and in particular friendlies, has been shocking but in typical hypocritical fashion Cardiff fans turn a blind eye to this.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Giggs has done so well for Wales but he’s ruined it being a **** of a human being
He should be loved like the other Wales managers before him but he’s totally spoilt it for himself, and if I’m honest for me as a fan.
I held my nose for a time after the Rhodri affair, some people deserve second chances but it’s obviously his true colours.
Glad your not on the jury….he is guilty already then? No smoke without fire but let’s just wait and see eh? I’ve known a few crazy bitches in my time who liked to get lairy and violent when pissed up
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
goats
Giggs never really suffered any major injuries though did he?
Giggs had loads of problems with his hamstrings.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
Danny Wilson was always a sombre, unsmiling character, whenever I saw him working the doors (okay, perhaps understandable in that profession) and he looked exactly the same whenever 'relaxing' over a pint down the docks too. He always seemed 'on edge', almost waiting for something to happen.
Wilson used to beat Gigg's mother, which is why he later disowned his father.
They say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
that was my point
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.
Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Harry Paget Flashman
Anthony Joshua seems to do alright.
Genuinely not sure what you're getting at here? Has Joshua hit women or something?
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Cleve van Leef
Has Bellamy abused women? Nothing has been said or written regarding that, he supposedly bullied youngsters, but that was brought against him apparently by parent who didn’t like his son being dropped from the team. Nothing actually proved.
Bellamy was once alleged to have grabbed a woman by the throat in a city centre night club. Memory serves me well he was found ‘not guilty’.
Same thing could happen to Giggs.
Like I said, playing devils advocate.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Giggs had loads of problems with his hamstrings.
Thought that would just pop up before Wales games…..:hehe:
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
Bellamy was once alleged to have grabbed a woman by the throat in a city centre night club. Memory serves me well he was found ‘not guilty’.
Same thing could happen to Giggs.
Like I said, playing devils advocate.
If it wasn't clear from my original comment , what I said is dependent on him being found guilty of abusing his wife.
Regarding the affair with his brother's wife, that type of thing doesn't really concern me because adultery , no matter what the circumstances, is not a criminal offence. It is a private issue and I don't think this type of info should really be in the public domain. If everyone were judged on the same criteria in the tabloid media, very few of us would escape unblemished.
I take your point regarding innocence until proven guilty, if that was the original point you were making...... I'm not sure it was though.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
goats
Thought that would just pop up before Wales games…..:hehe:
His hamstring was nicknamed Fergie.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
If it wasn't clear from my original comment , what I said is dependent on him being found guilty of abusing his wife.
Regarding the affair with his brother's wife, that type of thing doesn't really concern me because adultery , no matter what the circumstances, is not a criminal offence. It is a private issue and I don't think this type of info should really be in the public domain. If everyone were judged on the same criteria in the tabloid media, very few of us would escape unblemished.
I take your point regarding innocence until proven guilty, if that was the original point you were making...... I'm not sure it was though.
My playing at being 'devils advocate' wasn't particularly directed at you personally but just put out there for consideration.
The point of 'innocence until proven guilty' is one of the points, amongst others. I think it's quite interesting that some individuals get mullered on here whilst (perhaps) others are seen in a different light.
Also many on here jumping to conclusions about his guilt.
Ched Evans anyone?
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate
As Bale's closest rival for the title of best ever Welsh player I'd say.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Where does the great John Charles sit in all this debate
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
As Bale's closest rival for the title of best ever Welsh player I'd say.
Na, that's Trevor Hockey :hehe::hehe: (who remembers him)
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Na, that's Trevor Hockey :hehe::hehe: (who remembers him)
For a while held the title for wildest looks in British football.
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
Just spared another thought for Ryan Giggs , sorry didn't last long
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Na, that's Trevor Hockey :hehe::hehe: (who remembers him)
A man you'd not mess with was our Trevor
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
Wales unbeaten since Giggs left
Just like his wife :hide:
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Re: Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Giggs had loads of problems with his hamstrings.
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