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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
I found it more ageist than racist. How many two day old kids can even walk, even when aided by their parents? I find his tweet disgusting for this very reason, the short, fat, unfunny, ageist, insensitive, white, gay-hating (might not be true) turd. Oh, and I don't like Jeremy Clarkson either. Can't remember why though.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
I like Danny Baker and don’t think he’s racist. But my word for such an intelligent guy what a balls up.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Taunton Blue Genie
So someone has to be mindful of other people's warped associations? I don't agree at all.
It’s not warped minds is it though? It’s a common racist trope of a black person being a monkey. Again I don’t think he did it on purpose and I don’t think he should be sacked but trying to play it off like it’s not an obvious stupid thing to post is naive.
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StraightOuttaCanton
Because Danny Baker is a household name in the USA right?
No. Because it was reported on US Nationwide TV. And the boy's mother is black american.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Organ Morgan.
Well as far as I’m concerned little Archie looks extremely dapper!
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Croesy Blue
It’s not warped minds is it though? It’s a common racist trope of a black person being a monkey. Again I don’t think he did it on purpose and I don’t think he should be sacked but trying to play it off like it’s not an obvious stupid thing to post is naive.
Yes, it is warped minds. We are allowing those warped minds to be the template for the rest of us. Black people aren't apes, gorillas or chimpanzees and it's absurd that we have be mindful of associations made only by the racists.
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WJ99mobile
I like Danny Baker and don’t think he’s racist. But my word for such an intelligent guy what a balls up.
And he has more responsibility than most to deliver better standards for the very nice wage he picks up working for the world's biggest known media brand that broadcasts around the earth via the world service which includes the commonwealth and other different ethnic societies and countries ,who unlike us admire and respect the Royals.
There maybe many that don't agree with Royals thankfully we have better moral behaviours and responsibility.
Doesn't the BBC fall into a specific
employee set of standards , regarding the royal progrative .
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Yes, it is warped minds. We are allowing those warped minds to be the template for the rest of us. Black people aren't apes, gorillas or chimpanzees and it's absurd that we have be mindful of associations made only by the racists.
How do you distinguish between who has a 'warped' mind and who doesn't? I don't think that Baker is a Racist, not even close, although some people may think he is after that picture and others may think he's just like 'The rest of us'
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
He did kill Bob Marley though😱......................................Late r revealed to be a load of bollocks
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
He's 62. He can afford to retire.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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NYCBlue
He's 62. He can afford to retire.
He can’t have a listen to his desert island discs, says he never saves a penny and is often skint. Probably the best episode of that btw.
He’ll get work again though he’s very popular. I’m never sure if I find him entertaining or the world’s biggest pub bore.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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the other bob wilson
An absolutely stupid thing to post. I winced as soon as I saw it. And he paid the price.
Hard to have any sympathy for his utter lack of awareness, especially from some who is supposed to be media savvy.
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Tuerto
How do you distinguish between who has a 'warped' mind and who doesn't? I don't think that Baker is a Racist, not even close, although some people may think he is after that picture and others may think he's just like 'The rest of us'
The warped minds are those who associate apes, gorillas and chimpanzees with certain races of human beings. Their warped associations shouldn't be though of as standard for civilised human beings. I wouldn't dare accuse anyone of such a very serious offence without sufficient evidence.
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Taunton Blue Genie
The warped minds are those who associate apes, gorillas and chimpanzees with certain races of human beings. Their warped associations shouldn't be though of as standard for civilised human beings. I wouldn't dare accuse anyone of such a very serious offence without sufficient evidence.
Do the black people who thought Baker’s tweet could be construed as racist have warped minds?
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Croesy Blue
Do the black people who thought Baker’s tweet could be construed as racist have warped minds?
Can black people not have warped minds?
Any black, white or any person of colour can have a distorted perception based upon their own motivations and focus of attention.
A lot of people have a confirmation bias, based upon what they want to see or focus on and what they readily dismiss.
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JDerrida
Can black people not have warped minds?
Any black, white or any person of colour can have a distorted perception based upon their own motivations and focus of attention.
A lot of people have a confirmation bias, based upon what they want to see or focus on and what they readily dismiss.
That’s not at all what he’s saying though.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
Percieving offence where no such offence is present is a trait of some human beings and not exclusive to any race. Misinterpreting innocent acts as hate crime (as may be the case regarding this particular thread) does absolutely nothing regarding real examples of racism. Quite the opposite.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Croesy Blue
Do the black people who thought Baker’s tweet could be construed as racist have warped minds?
The warped minds I referred to are the racists who seemed to have successfully forged the association in the first place.
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Taunton Blue Genie
Percieving offence where no such offence is present is a trait of some human beings and not exclusive to any race. Misinterpreting innocent acts as hate crime (as may be the case regarding this particular thread) does absolutely nothing regarding real examples of racism. Quite the opposite.
How do you distinguish between who or what is racist? Do you just use your own judgement?
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Tuerto
How do you distinguish between who or what is racist? Do you just use your own judgement?
Somtimes. At other times the law or an official body decides, having access to evidence and witness statements. Internet and media hysteria are not my bag.
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Tuerto
How do you distinguish between who or what is racist? Do you just use your own judgement?
This is the thing for me - Nigel Farage has been mentioned in this thread and I reckon the reaction of an awful lot of people, myself included, would have been very different if he has posted exactly the same thing Danny Baker did.
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the other bob wilson
This is the thing for me - Nigel Farage has been mentioned in this thread and I reckon the reaction of an awful lot of people, myself included, would have been very different if he has posted exactly the same thing Danny Baker did.
.or Raheem Sterling for that matter..
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
Thank god it isn’t just white Europeans who are racist
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/w...na-racism.html
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Re: Danny Baker fired by the BBC and he's not happy about it.
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Taunton Blue Genie
The warped minds I referred to are the racists who seemed to have successfully forged the association in the first place.
Yeah the association was made years ago and has been a common racist insult that the majority of people recognise straight away. It’s nothing to do with having a warped mind it’s to do with years of it being used as racist language.
Do you think as white men we have enough experience of racist abuse to judge when is a time for valid complaints ?