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Pedro de la Rosa
				 
			For good reason
			
		
	 
 I should have said  justice for the victims rarely gets discussed
	 
	
	
	
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William Treseder
				 
			The victims never get discussed.
			
		
	 
 We're discussing them now.
What would you like to say?
	 
	
	
	
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Eric Cartman
				 
			Unless I am reading this wrong, it does seem a bit of a loophole that you can renounce your secondary citizenship to avoid deportation.
			
		
	 
 It does seem a loophole that we're deporting someone from their primary citizenship to their secondary country. Why should we make them our problem? Can you imagine if Pakistan tried to send their criminals here?
	 
	
	
	
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Pedro de la Rosa
				 
			It does seem a loophole that we're deporting someone from their primary citizenship to their secondary country. Why should we make them our problem? Can you imagine if Pakistan tried to send their criminals here?
			
		
	 
 Yeah I can see that argument too.  As usual this all boils down to what is the purpose of prison sentences.  If the public don't trust people to be rehabilitated when they leave prison then the system has failed.
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
DryCleaning
				 
			We're discussing them now.
What would you like to say?
			
		
	 
 For what it’s worth, I believe anyone (of any colour or ethnicity), that grooms children for sexual exploitation, or takes part in any sexual assault on children,  and are caught and found guilty, should be locked away for the rest of there life, in a secure unit, with no chance of release.
Are you with me DC ?
	 
	
	
	
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William Treseder
				 
			For what it’s worth, I believe anyone (of any colour or ethnicity), that grooms children for sexual exploitation, or takes part in any sexual assault on children,  and are caught and found guilty, should be locked away for the rest of there life, in a secure unit, with no chance of release.
Are you with me DC ?
			
		
	 
 That's never going to happen . Child sexual killers usually don't come out , the rest , unless we are going to spend millions on keeping them inside serve lesser sentences 
Wether that's right is another matter
	 
	
	
	
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William Treseder
				 
			For what it’s worth, I believe anyone (of any colour or ethnicity), that grooms children for sexual exploitation, or takes part in any sexual assault on children,  and are caught and found guilty, should be locked away for the rest of there life, in a secure unit, with no chance of release.
Are you with me DC ?
			
		
	 
 It's hard to argue against, but I'd prefer a chance of parole, as it gives hope of rehabilitation.
Although I'm not sure a convicted paedophile can be rehabilitated.
I'm torn, if I'm honest
	 
	
	
	
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DryCleaning
				 
			It's hard to argue against, but I'd prefer a chance of parole, as it gives hope of rehabilitation.
Although I'm not sure a convicted paedophile can be rehabilitated.
I'm torn, if I'm honest
			
		
	 
 They can but many cannot and that's the problem 
I remember listening to radio 5 one early morning . A guy admitted he had a sexual interest in children but was under treatment and had never offended . I mean there is clearly a huge difference between him and a serial sex offender but society wants them all hanged . 
People have had sexual thoughts towards children since time began . It's never going to stopped , perhaps it's a fault in the brain , who knows . But there has to be a sensible policy towards treating .....or imprisoning these people . A lot of the people who cry wolf over child abuse are completely unhinged in other ways themselves .
	 
	
	
	
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SLUDGE FACTORY
				 
			They can but many cannot and that's the problem 
I remember listening to radio 5 one early morning . A guy admitted he had a sexual interest in children but was under treatment and had never offended . I mean there is clearly a huge difference between him and a serial sex offender but society wants them all hanged . 
People have had sexual thoughts towards children since time began . It's never going to stopped , perhaps it's a fault in the brain , who knows . But there has to be a sensible policy towards treating .....or imprisoning these people . A lot of the people who cry wolf over child abuse are completely unhinged in other ways themselves .
			
		
	 
 aren't the 'map' pushing for a stripe on the alphabet flag? it's just another expression of sexuality
	 
	
	
	
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+ the native hipster
				 
			aren't the 'map' pushing for a stripe on the alphabet flag? it's just another expression of sexuality
			
		
	 
 It's clearly not though 
Being attracted to other men or other women if you are gay is normal 
Adults attracted to adults 
But men in their thirties wanting to have sex with children who are not sexually developed 
It's totally abnormal and nothing to do with sexuality