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Johnson deliberately misled Parliament, taking into account what he said after announcing his resignation as an MP, the committee would have recommended a ninety day suspension - he’s not going to be allowed to have a former member’s pass to attend Parliament.
These are far harsher penalties than were being predicted.
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the other bob wilson
Johnson deliberately misled Parliament, taking into account what he said after announcing his resignation as an MP, the committee would have recommended a ninety day suspension - he’s not going to be allowed to have a former member’s pass to attend Parliament.
These are far harsher penalties than were being predicted.
There are any number of matters that this government is completely and utterly failing it's citizens, not to mention the continued madness surrounding their 'managing ' of the economic recovery. I have to say that for me, this is of no significance or importance to anyone else other that the politicians in Westminster..
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A Quiet Monkfish
There are any number of matters that this government is completely and utterly failing it's citizens, not to mention the continued madness surrounding their 'managing ' of the economic recovery. I have to say that for me, this is of no significance or importance to anyone else other that the politicians in Westminster..
Yes, it's telling how spectacularly bad a job this government has done over the last 13 years and continues to do, that the former PM lying to parliament won't register as a big deal with many of the public
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A Quiet Monkfish
There are any number of matters that this government is completely and utterly failing it's citizens, not to mention the continued madness surrounding their 'managing ' of the economic recovery. I have to say that for me, this is of no significance or importance to anyone else other that the politicians in Westminster..
I agree that this is only seismic inside the Westminster bubble - and yes there are bigger issues and bigger failings that affect the people of this country more.
But a Prime Minister lying (again) to Parliament and a new wave of civil war breaking out in the governing party is definitely significant and important for the rest of us.
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superfeathers
Yes, it's telling how spectacularly bad a job this government has done over the last 13 years and continues to do, that the former PM lying to parliament won't register as a big deal with many of the public
Compare it to the lies by the PM and colleagues told to parliament about 'weapons of mass destruction'. Now that WAS a lie. They lie all the time. This has to be seen in the context of the political climate in the Tory party. Sunak is 'cleaning up', just like Starmer tried to do.
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jon1959
I agree that this is only seismic inside the Westminster bubble - and yes there are bigger issues and bigger failings that affect the people of this country more.
But a Prime Minister lying (again) to Parliament and a new wave of civil war breaking out in the governing party is definitely significant and important for the rest of us.
There's a natural self-destruction process that begins in the government of any party after 10+ years in power. This one will be one of the best..
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A Quiet Monkfish
Compare it to the lies by the PM and colleagues told to parliament about 'weapons of mass destruction'. Now that WAS a lie. They lie all the time. This has to be seen in the context of the political climate in the Tory party. Sunak is 'cleaning up', just like Starmer tried to do.
I'm not sure what all the what aboutery on this board offers.
Are you saying:
a) it's not a big deal for the PM to lie to parliament - let it go
b) it is a big deal but don't talk about it or pass judgement because you think it's happened before
c) leo fortune west
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A Quiet Monkfish
There are any number of matters that this government is completely and utterly failing it's citizens, not to mention the continued madness surrounding their 'managing ' of the economic recovery. I have to say that for me, this is of no significance or importance to anyone else other that the politicians in Westminster..
It's of great significance to me and I'm not from Westminster. Am I the only one?
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A Quiet Monkfish
There are any number of matters that this government is completely and utterly failing it's citizens, not to mention the continued madness surrounding their 'managing ' of the economic recovery. I have to say that for me, this is of no significance or importance to anyone else other that the politicians in Westminster..
At what stage does Johnson’s behaviour become significant and important then? What does he have to do for you and others to start caring?
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the other bob wilson
At what taxes does Johnson’s behaviour become significant and important then? What does he have to do for you and others to start caring?
Behaviour ? Caring ? Our streets are feral, crime isn't investigated, mortgages are going through the roof, NHS waiting times are soaring, the highest taxes in peacetime yet public services practically non-existent, Rivers becoming sewers, and so on, but what's really important is did the ex PM lie about knowing the rules for eating cake.
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A Quiet Monkfish
Behaviour ? Caring ? Our streets are feral, crime isn't investigated, mortgages are going through the roof, NHS waiting times are soaring, the highest taxes in peacetime yet public services practically non-existent, Rivers becoming sewers, and so on, but what's really important is did the ex PM lie about knowing the rules for eating cake.
Well, there’s a swerve - I’ll tell you something else it appears you don’t think is significant and important;
https://covidfamiliesforjustice.org/
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the other bob wilson
I haven't a clue why you posted that link, but as it's turning personal I think I'll leave it anyway.
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A Quiet Monkfish
I haven't a clue why you posted that link, but as it's turning personal I think I'll leave it anyway.
The rules weren’t about eating cake.
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I haven't a clue why you posted that link, but as it's turning personal I think I'll leave it anyway.
Socialism at its best shines through let get personal,yep it's a thing .
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life on mars
Socialism at its best shines through let get personal,yep it's a thing .
This has got absolutely nothing to with socialism, it’s to do with common decency and respect for fellow human beings. If you install draconian freedom limiting restrictions on the population, you’d better make sure that you’re not caught flouting them yourself.
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superfeathers
Yes, it's telling how spectacularly bad a job this government has done over the last 13 years and continues to do, that the former PM lying to parliament won't register as a big deal with many of the public
Please change that to some of the public, if even just for me.
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A Quiet Monkfish
The system has been consistently been abused for hundreds of years. "Lloyd George knew my fa-ather, father knew Lloyd George, ....
"Lloyd George is my fa-ther..." surely
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the other bob wilson
This has got absolutely nothing to with socialism, it’s to do with common decency and respect for fellow human beings. If you install draconian freedom limiting restrictions on the population, you’d better make sure that you’re not caught flouting them yourself.
People weren’t allowed to see their families.
Single people were stuck at home alone.
Yet the likes of Hancock and the party goers break the rules that they themselves set.
It’s beyond unacceptable to me.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2380920.html
Great to see the House of Lords becoming more youthful.
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Wash DC Blue
People weren’t allowed to see their families.
Single people were stuck at home alone.
Yet the likes of Hancock and the party goers break the rules that they themselves set.
It’s beyond unacceptable to me.
Why were they not afraid to break the rules you have to ask yourself I suppose ,as the majority of the UK government could have been killed or seriously ill. What if they suffered from “Long Covid “
All these rules were broken by several senior government figures which makes it even more ridiculous when Boris almost died from the virus a few weeks earlier.
I thought these people had body guards and protection officers, why didn’t they intervene?
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TWGL1
Why were they not afraid to break the rules you have to ask yourself I suppose ,as the majority of the UK government could have been killed or seriously ill. What if they suffered from “Long Covid “
I thought these people had body guards and protection officers, why didn’t they intervene?
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Human nature. Everyone thinks car crashes, house fires, etc won't happen to them.
Unless you think every government in the world was in on the big non-covid scam. Or every other government were suckered into it, but the geniuses in No 10 in 2020 were the smart ones who figured it out.
It was either some amazing hoax that has still somehow escaped detection - or people like Hancock thought "well f**k it, I probably won't catch covid at this party so I'll just go". Which is more likely?
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lardy
Human nature. Everyone thinks car crashes, house fires, etc won't happen to them.
Unless you think every government in the world was in on the big non-covid scam. Or every other government were suckered into it, but the geniuses in No 10 in 2020 were the smart ones who figured it out.
It was either some amazing hoax that has still somehow escaped detection - or people like Hancock thought "well f**k it, I probably won't catch covid at this party so I'll just go". Which is more likely?
Why didn’t the protection officers intervene then, even if it was to protect themselves and their own families?