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Re: Do you detest all Tories?
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TWGL1
I really can’t see anyone doing that TBH.
Oh they definitely do, it's happened many times before. Anyway as I said it's not a hanging offence but it does make things interesting.
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Dorcus
Oh they definitely do, it's happened many times before. Anyway as I said it's not a hanging offence but it does make things interesting.
Yes I guess so, good view to have
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Dorcus
There are such things as mobile WiFi devices you know. Anyway it's no big deal who you purport to be, I just found it interesting.
Dont back down now sunshine. You should continue your investigations.
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Dorcus
There are such things as mobile WiFi devices you know. Anyway it's no big deal who you purport to be, I just found it interesting.
Mobile devices have 2 MAC addresses - both of which are unique to the device.
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pipster
Dont back down now sunshine. You should continue your investigations.
I can't really be bothered Hip, like I said I proved my case. You can be whomsoever you wish to be.
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Dorcus
I can't really be bothered Hip, like I said I proved my case. You can be whomsoever you wish to be.
You have a proved a case alright - but it's not the one you think.
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Re: Do you detest all Tories?
Not sure detest is the right word but I think if I was having a conversation with somebody and they were positive about the current conservative party I would find it hard to take anything they said seriously, I'd probably tune out.
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Eric Cartman
Not sure detest is the right word but I think if I was having a conversation with somebody and they were positive about the current conservative party I would find it hard to take anything they said seriously, I'd probably tune out.
Exactly this current bunch are the most disgusting immoral crooks I've ever witnessed.
I will say the tory mp for Hazel Grove William Wragg at least objects to their more abhorrent crimes/policies. My local tory Mp Mary Robinson has voted party line for every single thing they've had to. A gutless woman indeed
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pipster
Mobile devices have 2 MAC addresses - both of which are unique to the device.
Surely a VPN would get around this?
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And surprise surprise Wragg votes against Boris because he's got standards but Robinson abstains because she's totally spineless.
She was a staunch remainer until one day she suddenly became a Brexiteer. Desperately trying to keep her snout in the public purse trough
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fugsyphil
And surprise surprise Wragg votes against Boris because he's got standards but Robinson abstains because she's totally spineless.
She was a staunch remainer until one day she suddenly became a Brexiteer. Desperately trying to keep her snout in the public purse trough
Unfortunately there's many many like her. The Tory leader didn't exactly cover himself in glory tonight; someone needs to tell him the first rule of leadership is to lead.
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pipster
And that ladies and gentlemen is the problem - right there in the quote above. Basically if you dont agree with what I believe you are scum. And then come election time you expect to get same 'scum' to agree with you and for the same party that you do. You Sludge, are a very effective Conservative recruiting sergeant, Rishi should sign you up immediately and offer you a full time job.
Johnathan Pie sums it up better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0nIhL4v6bY
The reason why we have lost successive elections is because we elect shit leaders
We have a shit one still but hopefully we can get over the line
The Tories only care for themselves and it has always been thus
What the left and middle have to do is organise properly and elect decent leaders
It's not a game of love thy neighbour
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The reason why we have lost successive elections is because we elect shit leaders
We have a shit one still but hopefully we can get over the line
The Tories only care for themselves and it has always been thus
What the left and middle have to do is organise properly and elect decent leaders
It's not a game of love thy neighbour
Sludge - Tories look after themselves... Isnt that what Labour attempt to do via trades unions ? 35% pay rises for junior Dr's , 18% for nurses, the promise of various things for all of us by Drakeford and yet here in Wales after 26 years of Labour in power ( in charge of Health, Welfare and Education) - have you noticed any difference in those areas ? - as I havent.
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No I don't detest any, its quite worrying question but not unexpected.
Politicians today are Tories some in the party others in opposition parties as they are centralist at heart as are most voters in the UK proven through election after election .
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life on mars
No I don't detest any, its quite worrying question but not unexpected.
Politicians today are Tories some in the party others in opposition parties as they are centralist at heart as are most voters in the UK proven through election after election .
Is that meant to make sense?
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Taunton Blue Genie
Is that meant to make sense?
Surely not
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pipster
Sludge - Tories look after themselves... Isnt that what Labour attempt to do via trades unions ? 35% pay rises for junior Dr's , 18% for nurses, the promise of various things for all of us by Drakeford and yet here in Wales after 26 years of Labour in power ( in charge of Health, Welfare and Education) - have you noticed any difference in those areas ? - as I havent.
I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards
And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise
I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards
And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise
I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show
Why have you never mentioned this before? :indifferent:
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Taunton Blue Genie
Is that meant to make sense?
You're expecting too much now!
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards
And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise
I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show
Top man!!!
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I think it's 2023 and the country is divided into utterly selfish bastards
And about 60 percent of the country who don't behave in that way and vote otherwise
I don't care is someone is labour , lib dem , green , snp or Plaid.......what unites us is that we don't vote for the tory clown show
You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?
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pipster
You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?
Brilliant! 👍
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pipster
You live in Wales I presume - a country that is responsible 100% for the running of Health , Welfare and Education. And we have had 26 years of Labour in power. How is Health, Wealth and Education working out for us ?
Have Welsh budgets not been cut during this time quite signficantly?
Please tell the crowd, how have the conservatives (who have far far more power) improved wealth in the UK?
PS - Dorcas is my alternate account :sherlock:
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No it isnt Dorcy - you are Sludge Evans alter ego
The Tories arent responsible for Health Welfare or Education in Wales, that is the job of the Senedd - currently controlled by Labour for 26 years. Fair enough technically for 4 years education was the job of the remaining LibDem AM at the Senedd - but I think she left at the last Welsh Assembly election.
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pipster
No it isnt Dorcy - you are Sludge Evans alter ego
The Tories arent responsible for Health Welfare or Education in Wales, that is the job of the Senedd - currently controlled by Labour for 26 years. Fair enough technically for 4 years education was the job of the remaining LibDem AM at the Senedd - but I think she left at the last Welsh Assembly election.
The guys a virtue signalling champagne socialist, don’t waste your time with melts like that.