It'd be pretty embarrassing being overtaken by Wrexham
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It'd be pretty embarrassing being overtaken by Wrexham
Would it be 'Good for Welsh football' i'm confused....Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
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Originally Posted by Tuerto
When I first started going to watch City in the mid 90s they were usually in the division above us, so it feels like the natural order being restored to me :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Like others have said, I'm not as arsed as I would have been 15 years ago, and I think there are a number of reasons for that.
The most obvious is that, if we do stay up, it'll continue to be exactly the same again next year. The same culture of mediocrity and apathy, the same hope that there's 3 worse teams than us, and probably another drop of 2k or 3k on the gate. The same idiots making the same bad decisions like clockwork. Some fans will cling to the hope that a corner is being turned, but most of us know something drastic needs to happen to break that cycle.
It's not just the club, though. As I get older and I have other responsibilities, other passions, other things in my life, the City just feel a lot less... important than they used to. They don't make or break my weekend any more. Wins don't feel that high, defeats don't feel so low. Don't get me wrong, I still watch all our matches - and I still will (regardless of what division we're in) - but more as a dutiful spouse than because there's any real spark there.
I also think that, in football in general, people are craving a different experience. Someone mentioned going to watch Trethomas; in other threads people have talked about going to watch Merthyr. After COVID, I got into groundhopping and I've had some great experiences going to smaller grounds at home and abroad. This is more of a general trend (if you look at the figures, non-league attendances across the UK have been steadily growing for a while), but when you couple it with what City have been offering up the last 4 years, it's no surprise that people are becoming disengaged and looking for something more authentic and less stressful.
Finally, for me at least, in the grand perspective of things, it's just not that big a deal. The club will still exist. We might be stuck there for 10 years, we might go straight back up. Frankly, there are more important things going on in the world. Even in purely football terms, it's not the pits. Almost everyone on this board has seen us finish 21st in the fourth tier, and get pumped by the likes of Enfield and Barry Town. It would be nowhere near our lowest point. Just as playing in the Premier League - our supposedly highest - wasn't all it was cracked up to be either.
So no, I'm not that bothered. Life will go on.
Am I bovered tho
Great post. Thank you for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
Great post, good perspective :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
I started watching Cardiff City in the early 90s. For most of the time until our promotion in 2003 we were shite, but we did have the one thing that keeps most football fans going - hope. No matter what crap was going on, on and off the pitch, there was always next season and things might be better.
Now though, whether we stay up or go down, very few of us can see anything improving, as long as Vincent Tan owns the club and Dalman and Choo are "running" it. That's why we I think, many of us aren't bothered about possible relegation, and why some of us are watching non-league football instead.
Until Tan, Dalman and Choo go, the hope won't come back.
Thought all of your post was spot on, but this particularly struck me. I wonder sometimes if we'd have stayed up and given the league a bit of a go if we'd think differently in retrospect. I bet, for example, Swansea fans would have a much higher opinion of their time in that division. For several seasons we knocked on the door, failed several times to get in, but I think we were hungry to get into the PL, especially after Swansea made it before us. Now we've seen just about everything - all 4 divisions, FA and league cup finals, there aren't many grounds we haven't visited or teams we haven't played in the English league. That obviously doesn't apply to younger fans, of which there aren't many on here (when I say younger, I'm thinking in their 20s). It would be interesting to see how the younger generation see things and their view on where we are, where they'd like us to be and so on. It's an interesting perspective to think that I was 25 when we beat QPR in the playoff final. Then, promotion to the second tier seemed like a dream come true - I'd never known us as high as that in the pyramid before. Now I realise the second tier isn't all it's cracked up to be, neither is the PL. It certainly seems to matter less as I've got older.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
All fell apart with the Blackpool final defeat! Up to that point we were all aboard the Cardiff city train, each season was getting better, we had a front 3 of Bothroyd Chopra and McCormack with the likes of Whittingham , McPhail and Lesley behind them. It was an exciting journey up the leagues , especially for those of us who had followed through the depressing 70s /80s and we all would have loved to have seen that team in the Premier league, it would have been a blast, probably a messy blast but fun nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
The defeat to Blackpool knocked all of us hard then Uncle Vince turned us red and from there on in , despite a one season oasis with promotion under Warnock back in blue with a bunch of very hard working players, it’s all been pretty miserable fayre and now I think it’s very hard for any of us to regain the “innocence” of those days before Tan .
It’s not beyond hope that someone with enthusiasm takes over the club, re-engages with the fans with a progressive manager and we have a team peppered with exciting ex academy players that might re-ignite the fuse within our dwindling passion for the club but that all seems some distance off right now.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m desperate to see us stay up and will celebrate enthusiastically if we do but that all consuming passion has certainly waned a lot in recent times!
Like most of us on here never been less bothered but selling Colwill and Ashford to Wrexham would boil my p!ss! But by then it would be too late to start caring.