New Party on the Left

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

As you know, the objective is for a new application not to be confused with any existing ones and whilst not throwing a blanket over generic terms already widely used in the classes of products and services concerned. That would perhaps represent what you consider to be the distinctive component - as it should any consequential confusion.

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Please can we get back on track

Cheers

A facebook post from Zarah Sultana midday today:


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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

That's Farage as PM then

Cheque signed by Corbyn

If he had waited for Starmer to fold it wouldn't have mattered

Selfish

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I'm not so sure about that. As things stand, I can quite easily see Labour, Your Party, Tories and Reform getting an equal share of the vote. It will be interesting.

Starmer isn't the only thing wrong with Labour, so if he did fold, I can't see it fixing all their issues.

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Originally Posted by stevo

I'm not so sure about that. As things stand, I can quite easily see Labour, Your Party, Tories and Reform getting an equal share of the vote. It will be interesting.

Starmer isn't the only thing wrong with Labour, so if he did fold, I can't see it fixing all their issues.

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At present reform are on 30 percent ...that may give them a small majority but if not DEFINITELY make them the biggest party in a hung parliament and therefore the right to try and form a government

That will clearly be with the Tories because even if they are only say 15 percent that gives a workable majority

Scary

The other parties are poncing about here and are walking blindfolded into being cut adrift

Either form an electoral pact and stand on an anti reform platform and make deals afterwards or labour will clearly need to get starmer put in a siberian prison and get a leader in who can at least pull a few votes into the middle

These are the only two options

Another left wing party , labour voters going liberal etc are just going to hand farage the big job

In Wales Labour are in such a bad way I think only voting Plaid will possibly stop reform ....I am going to be voting tactically to keep farage out , independent , green , Plaid even tory if it meant for now he was stopped

The Labour Party need to grow some bollocks NOW and start the process of getting starmer replaced, I havnt met one fellow labour voter who thinks he has any positives at all , its absolutely desperate out there ...if local activists want him gone then its clear the voting public wont back him

Blair , even after his ego driven appalling attack on Iraq still had a element of support and carried an election ...Starmer cant carry a bag of shopping without dropping it and breaking all the eggs

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Please can we get back on track

Cheers

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Are you going to tell something new, old fruit?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tana-new-party

Zack Polanski, the Green party leadership candidate, has said he may be willing to cooperate with a new leftwing party led by Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana, after calls for the two groups to form an alliance.

Polanski emphasised that any decision would be for Green members, and would depend on the eventual form of the as yet unnamed party, which currently does not officially exist.

His comments to the Guardian open up a divide with his competitors for the leadership, Adrian Ramsay and Ellie Chowns, who have warned against the Greens becoming “a Jeremy Corbyn support act”.

A day after Corbyn and Sultana jointly launched a website for people to register interest, with the interim title of Your Party, a leftwing campaign group called for it to seek a formal alliance with the Greens in England and Wales.

We Deserve Better, which argues for electoral pacts on the left, said a united ticket for the Greens and the new party had the potential to unseat dozens of Labour MPs, whereas both running could split the vote.

Polanski, the Greens’ deputy leader, has built his push for the leadership around the idea of making the party a mass-membership “eco-populism” organisation that could take on not only Labour but also Reform UK.

Somebody please tell me the "Your Party" name is only a temporary placeholder. I'd personally prefer "The People's Party"

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Originally Posted by jon1959

A facebook post from Zarah Sultana midday today:


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Up to 250,000 now. I’d love their membership number to go above Labour’s - Starmer’s mob deserves that.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Somebody please tell me the "Your Party" name is only a temporary placeholder. I'd personally prefer "The People's Party"

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It is a temporary name.

A permanent (and hopefully better) name will be decided by the members of the new party - maybe at the founding conference which is being organised.

Sadly the chances of Party McPartyface are going south!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Up to 250,000 now. I’d love their membership number to go above Labour’s - Starmer’s mob deserves that.

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https://x.com/wearecollectiv_/status...23652024819815

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Are you going to tell something new, old fruit?

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Have you missed the " us " in that statement , old fruit ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Have you missed the " us " in that statement , old fruit ?

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Indeed. I shall self-flagellate and join TOBW on the naughty step.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Indeed. I shall self-flagellate and join TOBW on the naughty step.

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Well make it quick , there is no time for mindless personal indulgent these days on here

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Originally Posted by jon1959

https://x.com/wearecollectiv_/status...23652024819815

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Plenty of Reform snowflakes commenting I SEE.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well make it quick , there is no time for mindless personal indulgent these days on here

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You may have to join us there then, old fruit.

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Indeed. I shall self-flagellate and join TOBW on the naughty step.

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I'll organise a whip round for you

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Plenty of Reform snowflakes commenting I SEE.

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Probably just people making an observation that a quarter of a million people have signed up to a far-left party set up by an old war horse kicked out of his last party for racism, that has no name and even less policies? Seems a reasonable thing to not overly excited about.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Probably just people making an observation that a quarter of a million people have signed up to a far-left party set up by an old war horse kicked out of his last party for racism, that has no name and even less policies? Seems a reasonable thing to not overly excited about.

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I thought you didn't make things up, James. Seems I was wrong about that!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I thought you didn't make things up, James. Seems I was wrong about that!

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What did happen then?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65102128

But my wider point was hundreds of thousands of people signing up for something with no name and no policies.

Bit odd 🤣

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What did happen then?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65102128

But my wider point was hundreds of thousands of people signing up for something with no name and no policies.

Bit odd ��

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It is the beginning of a process. It indicates the level of support for a radical party of the left. It may collapse. It may become odd. But not yet - and it may succeed.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

What did happen then?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65102128

But my wider point was hundreds of thousands of people signing up for something with no name and no policies.

Bit odd ��

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Bit of a statement on how the two main parties are perceived these days I’d say. People are desperate for something different from Conservatives and Labour. As for your allegations of so called racism, all sorts of decent, ordinary people (even inciuding thousands of Jews) are labelled “anti Semitic” because they recognise what Netanyahu’s Israel is doing in Gaza for what it is. There is a need for a new party on the left for all sorts of reasons, not least of them being that the traditional party of the left is increasingly out of touch with what the country is thinking when it comes to Gaza.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It is the beginning of a process. It indicates the level of support for a radical party of the left. It may collapse. It may become odd. But not yet - and it may succeed.

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Still, if three hundred thousand people signed up for something without a name or policies in an area of politics not to your liking you would definitely be making references to koolaid!

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Bit of a statement on how the two main parties are perceived these days I’d say. People are desperate for something different from Conservatives and Labour. As for your allegations of so called racism, all sorts of decent, ordinary people (even inciuding thousands of Jews) are labelled “anti Semitic” because they recognise what Netanyahu’s Israel is doing in Gaza for what it is. There is a need for a new party on the left for all sorts of reasons, not least of them being that the traditional party of the left is increasingly out of touch with what the country is thinking when it comes to Gaza.

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Ah,that's okay then! Not my allegations!

I do agree there is a need for a party firmly on the left, representing a segment of public opinion, as there is in most countries 👍

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Ah,that's okay then! Not my allegations!

I do agree there is a need for a party firmly on the left, representing a segment of public opinion, as there is in most countries 👍

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My point was that anti Semitism, like racism, is a charge which gets thrown about too easily these days. I’ve never been that big a fan of Corbyn, but I’ve never thought of him as a racist and I’m not going to start doing it because Starmer’s Labour says he is.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Still, if three hundred thousand people signed up for something without a name or policies in an area of politics not to your liking you would definitely be making references to koolaid!

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Well, they’re halfway towards the party with the lead in the opinion polls with the no policies bit - although I’m not being fair there, Reform does have one policy.