Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I'm genuinely surprised by how negative this thread is overall.
Some are even suggesting that we might be in danger of going down again.
I genuinely think that even if we don't make a single signing this summer we will be one of the stronger teams in the division.
Of course that's no guarantee that we will go straight back up, but I for one am looking forward to the new season with anticipation of winning a fair few more games than we have in recent seasons.
If we take an example line-up, off the top of my head:.
Alnwick
Ng Fish Chambers Bagan
Wintle
Colwill Robertson
Ashford Salech Davies
I don't think there's a single player there that wouldn't be a really good signing for many clubs at this level.
And that's not even including the likes of Robinson, Turnbull, Willock etc hell even Horvarth or Daland
Some people seem to think that league one football is completely different to the championship, and you need a specific type of player to be successful - I don't think that's the case at all. the league one football I saw last season was very much like the championship with less overall quality on show.
I think we will be fine.
I'm sure i#ll be reminded of this if we're 12th after 6 games or something but meh.
its a decent team in the championship ( on paper )
If Turnbull wants to play, he should be decent in L1
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I'm genuinely surprised by how negative this thread is overall.
Some are even suggesting that we might be in danger of going down again.
I genuinely think that even if we don't make a single signing this summer we will be one of the stronger teams in the division.
Of course that's no guarantee that we will go straight back up, but I for one am looking forward to the new season with anticipation of winning a fair few more games than we have in recent seasons.
If we take an example line-up, off the top of my head:.
Alnwick
Ng Fish Chambers Bagan
Wintle
Colwill Robertson
Ashford Salech Davies
I don't think there's a single player there that wouldn't be a really good signing for many clubs at this level.
And that's not even including the likes of Robinson, Turnbull, Willock etc hell even Horvarth or Daland
Some people seem to think that league one football is completely different to the championship, and you need a specific type of player to be successful - I don't think that's the case at all. the league one football I saw last season was very much like the championship with less overall quality on show.
I think we will be fine.
I'm sure i#ll be reminded of this if we're 12th after 6 games or something but meh.
A decent team would have stayed up or ? and tbh we have been getting worse over the last few seasons. You could see a relegation coming
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
its a decent team in the championship ( on paper )
If Turnbull wants to play, he should be decent in L1
Considering we finished bottom, it's a pretty dreadful team in the Championship, on grass and paper
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Yep - There is hope now of a takeover. Tan and co are only going to drag us further down.
Consolidate next season and pray we have new owners next season.
This squad is weak. Mid table id take that.
Its weak for the Championship, not League 1
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Not signing any players now is not some brilliant masterstroke by the clowns its just general cluelessness and as soon as they've gone the better.
:thumbup:
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
City123
Its weak for the Championship, not League 1
Too weak for the Championship. Finished bottom. So nothing really to go on. What makes you think we won't be a weak League One team? The squad is weaker now than it was in April and May. When we didn't win any games, and took 3 points from 21.
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
Too weak for the Championship. Finished bottom. So nothing really to go on. What makes you think we won't be a weak League One team? The squad is weaker now than it was in April and May. When we didn't win any games, and took 3 points from 21.
Because of the sides that went up last season. Take a look at Wrexham's squad and its full of players who are either past it or were never good enough for the Championship. Steven Fletcher for instance was done at Championship level about 4 years ago, he played 40 games last season, James McClean likewise. Creatively they've relied on Elliott Lee who consistently failed at Championship level. Their squad is littered with those types and they'll be looking to improve it massively (seen them linked with a £5m move for Lewis O'Brien today). Charlton are similar, their top appearance maker couldn't get on the bench at Plymouth. The gap between the divisions is big.
If we keep the squad together we'll be fine. We may not run over teams like Birmingham did and we may not even get promoted, but it certainly isn't a lower half League 1 squad, anyone who's saying it is is catastrophising
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
City123
Because of the sides that went up last season. Take a look at Wrexham's squad and its full of players who are either past it or were never good enough for the Championship. Steven Fletcher for instance was done at Championship level about 4 years ago, he played 40 games last season, James McClean likewise. Creatively they've relied on Elliott Lee who consistently failed at Championship level. Their squad is littered with those types and they'll be looking to improve it massively (seen them linked with a £5m move for Lewis O'Brien today). Charlton are similar, their top appearance maker couldn't get on the bench at Plymouth. The gap between the divisions is big.
If we keep the squad together we'll be fine. We may not run over teams like Birmingham did and we may not even get promoted, but it certainly isn't a lower half League 1 squad, anyone who's saying it is is catastrophising
yes, spot on.
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
City123
Because of the sides that went up last season. Take a look at Wrexham's squad and its full of players who are either past it or were never good enough for the Championship. Steven Fletcher for instance was done at Championship level about 4 years ago, he played 40 games last season, James McClean likewise. Creatively they've relied on Elliott Lee who consistently failed at Championship level. Their squad is littered with those types and they'll be looking to improve it massively (seen them linked with a £5m move for Lewis O'Brien today). Charlton are similar, their top appearance maker couldn't get on the bench at Plymouth. The gap between the divisions is big.
If we keep the squad together we'll be fine. We may not run over teams like Birmingham did and we may not even get promoted, but it certainly isn't a lower half League 1 squad, anyone who's saying it is is catastrophising
To me, not getting promoted next season would be a catastrophe.
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
To me, not getting promoted next season would be a catastrophe.
It depends, it might make Tan sell up.
I think it is going to be difficult to bounce back but Plymouth have lost half their team, there's no "big boys" ie Sunderland, Sheff Wed kicking around, and Luton have suffered a double relegation. Plus the 3 best teams last season went up, if you had to pick a season to play in L1, this would be it.
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
City123
Because of the sides that went up last season. Take a look at Wrexham's squad and its full of players who are either past it or were never good enough for the Championship. Steven Fletcher for instance was done at Championship level about 4 years ago, he played 40 games last season, James McClean likewise. Creatively they've relied on Elliott Lee who consistently failed at Championship level. Their squad is littered with those types and they'll be looking to improve it massively (seen them linked with a £5m move for Lewis O'Brien today). Charlton are similar, their top appearance maker couldn't get on the bench at Plymouth. The gap between the divisions is big.
If we keep the squad together we'll be fine. We may not run over teams like Birmingham did and we may not even get promoted, but it certainly isn't a lower half League 1 squad, anyone who's saying it is is catastrophising
They're focussing on Jesper Daland :hehe:
Re: If another club..........................
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Originally Posted by
City123
Because of the sides that went up last season. Take a look at Wrexham's squad and its full of players who are either past it or were never good enough for the Championship. Steven Fletcher for instance was done at Championship level about 4 years ago, he played 40 games last season, James McClean likewise. Creatively they've relied on Elliott Lee who consistently failed at Championship level. Their squad is littered with those types and they'll be looking to improve it massively (seen them linked with a £5m move for Lewis O'Brien today). Charlton are similar, their top appearance maker couldn't get on the bench at Plymouth. The gap between the divisions is big.
If we keep the squad together we'll be fine. We may not run over teams like Birmingham did and we may not even get promoted, but it certainly isn't a lower half League 1 squad, anyone who's saying it is is catastrophising
So far this summer, we’ve behaved as if those running the club fully agree with you. I think they’ve got the managerial appointment right, but we’re still run in a “Tan knows best” manner because nothing has been done to tackle the widespread structural problems at the club, indeed we’re weaker when it comes to coaching numbers and placing too much faith in BBM and the two people he’s been allowed to bring in performing miracles on the training pitch.
I look at that squad going to Spain and think it’s weak. It won’t be if something like five of the youngsters step into the first team squad seamlessly, but can they also become the leaders that we lacked last season? BBM is generally regarded to have done a decent job at Rochdale because they were minnows by League One standards - I’m not saying we’re there yet, far from it, but, based on what we’ve seen so far, the plan seems to be to turn us into something resembling Rochdale circa 2020.
