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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
Anyone on this board, no matter what age, will only have witnessed a Labour or Conservative government, with the odd coalitions sprinkled about.
Nothing will fundamentally change in any of our lifetimes, no matter what they change the voting age to.
I’ve worked all my life, and whether it be Red or Blue at the helm, it’s not mattered a jot.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Anyone on this board, no matter what age, will only have witnessed a Labour or Conservative government, with the odd coalitions sprinkled about.
Nothing will fundamentally change in any of our lifetimes, no matter what they change the voting age to.
I’ve worked all my life, and whether it be Red or Blue at the helm, it’s not mattered a jot.
I think that's the fundamental problem with the two party system.
One gets in, holds the fort a while, when the public are tired they vote the others in whether their policies are any different or particularly inspiring. Rinse and repeat.
We don't really have proper choice. I think you could take most politicians and switch them between labour and cons with no real difference noticed.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
I think that's the fundamental problem with the two party system.
One gets in, holds the fort a while, when the public are tired they vote the others in whether their policies are any different or particularly inspiring. Rinse and repeat.
We don't really have proper choice. I think you could take most politicians and switch them between labour and cons with no real difference noticed.
I quite like the idea of 16-year-olds voting for their own demise though.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
Underhill1980
I can’t blame them, I’m 45 and voted all my life, I won’t be voting again. Promise after promise followed by lie after lie. Self serving liars, all of them
well done to you sir and the more that think like you! the more they can take over.
they being the self serving liars
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
well done to you sir and the more that think like you! the more they can take over.
they being the self serving liars
What does voting in another group of self serving liars do? Nothing. Until the system is completely ripped up we’ll continue to keep getting shafted.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
I think that's the fundamental problem with the two party system.
One gets in, holds the fort a while, when the public are tired they vote the others in whether their policies are any different or particularly inspiring. Rinse and repeat.
We don't really have proper choice. I think you could take most politicians and switch them between labour and cons with no real difference noticed.
I agree with you. The problem is, and always will be, how do you keep almost 70m people relatively happy? We can’t even agree amongst ourselves on here 😁
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Anyone on this board, no matter what age, will only have witnessed a Labour or Conservative government, with the odd coalitions sprinkled about.
Nothing will fundamentally change in any of our lifetimes, no matter what they change the voting age to.
I’ve worked all my life, and whether it be Red or Blue at the helm, it’s not mattered a jot.
Isn’t it something like we’ve had a Tory government for 32 of the last 45 years? It seems to be a patttern that the Conservatives ride roughshod over us, people eventually get pissed off and Labour get in for a short while. The right wing media, millionaires & billionaires put the boot in, with huge smear campaigns, concerned that a bit of fairness may start kicking in, hoodwinking the gullible and the Tories get back in for another nest feathering period.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Isn’t it something like we’ve had a Tory government for 32 of the last 45 years? It seems to be a patttern that the Conservatives ride roughshod over us, people eventually get pissed off and Labour get in for a short while. The right wing media, millionaires & billionaires put the boot in, with huge smear campaigns, concerned that a bit of fairness may start kicking in, hoodwinking the gullible and the Tories get back in for another nest feathering period.
Well said :thumbup:
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
jeepster
Well said :thumbup:
This ^^
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Isn’t it something like we’ve had a Tory government for 32 of the last 45 years? It seems to be a patttern that the Conservatives ride roughshod over us, people eventually get pissed off and Labour get in for a short while. The right wing media, millionaires & billionaires put the boot in, with huge smear campaigns, concerned that a bit of fairness may start kicking in, hoodwinking the gullible and the Tories get back in for another nest feathering period.
In a nutshell yes. But it will never change. We’ll just keep moaning about it in the pub, and on message boards.
They let the majority have just enough to keep them dumbed down.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
NinianKnight
They can serve in the military but they can't take part in any active service until 18 years of age. When I was 16 I didn't pay tax because my salary was too low and I would imagine that is true of most 16 year olds. Those arguments are a bit of a stretch and are only being implemented because Labour believe it will be advantageous for their voter base
So they can be taxed and serve in the military. Thanks for sorting that out.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
EU didn't exist in 1973. Bloody hell, and you remainiacs like to sneer at others about not knowing the facts! 😘
Are there people that still think leaving the EU was a good idea?
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Isn’t it something like we’ve had a Tory government for 32 of the last 45 years? It seems to be a patttern that the Conservatives ride roughshod over us, people eventually get pissed off and Labour get in for a short while. The right wing media, millionaires & billionaires put the boot in, with huge smear campaigns, concerned that a bit of fairness may start kicking in, hoodwinking the gullible and the Tories get back in for another nest feathering period.
It's OK though because the Tories will take things from the poor. And their voters like that.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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William Treseder
Why don’t we just bump those old pests off, then the youngsters will have a free rein. What age would you suggest we start at?
You'll have to make it over 100, if it were over 70, the board would lose 90% :hehe:
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Why don’t we just bump those old pests off, then the youngsters will have a free rein. What age would you suggest we start at?
State Pension age.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Isn’t it something like we’ve had a Tory government for 32 of the last 45 years? It seems to be a patttern that the Conservatives ride roughshod over us, people eventually get pissed off and Labour get in for a short while. The right wing media, millionaires & billionaires put the boot in, with huge smear campaigns, concerned that a bit of fairness may start kicking in, hoodwinking the gullible and the Tories get back in for another nest feathering period.
I'm going to pull up a deckchair, pour myself a negroni, and sit back and enjoy the next four years of your wonderful Labour government..
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
I'm going to pull up a deckchair, pour myself a negroni, and sit back and enjoy the next four years of your wonderful Labour government..
Last one in most of the board's lifetime, they had almost a free hit and are making such a mess. With the JessaSultana party splitting the left-wing vote, there's a chance it may never fully recover. The same goes for the Tories, who are facing a similar threat from Reform.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
I'm going to pull up a deckchair, pour myself a negroni, and sit back and enjoy the next four years of your wonderful Labour government..
The Labour government never have the time to be wonderful, would take a lot longer than that to sort out 14 years of incompetence. You wouldn’t know about that though, if you’re pulling up a deckchair for Labour’s tenure you must have been put in an voluntary induced coma for the Tory years.:hehe:
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
The Labour government never have the time to be wonderful, would take a lot longer than that to sort out 14 years of incompetence. You wouldn’t know about that though, if you’re pulling up a deckchair for Labour’s tenure you must have been put in an voluntary induced coma for the Tory years.:hehe:
:hehe:
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
I'm going to pull up a deckchair, pour myself a negroni, and sit back and enjoy the next four years of your wonderful Labour government..
how do you rate the last 15 years of Tory rule?
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
State Pension age.
You must have Tory blood in your veins you absolute bounder !! 😁
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
how do you rate the last 15 years of Tory rule?
Non-existent.
They didn't get my vote.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
Non-existent.
They didn't get my vote.
You might not have voted for it, but it did happen.
And they presided on an unprecedented stagnation of living standards in this country, a flatlining economy and trashed all the public services.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
It was the worst British governmental incumbency I can ever remember and there's been some shit shows in that time.
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Re: Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election
Why don't we all just agree that the cons were a shambles and Keir has said "hold my beer". Labour presented with an absolute tap in have gone out of their way to piss off as many people as possible, Keir and co can't be this incompetent, it has to be part of some grand plan surely.
They will win Welsh votes though so all good.
