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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
City123
You can like the Smiths and think Morrissey's a prick
I'm aware of that. Perhaps I've been hypnotised by his music, I don't know. I don't think he's a great person and I can guarantee he doesn't either. He talks about himself very poorly, I think he's very sick as someone whose suffered with depression their whole life would be. I just don't believe he's racist. He might not be a great person (as some have said) but racist I think not.
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Originally Posted by
Baker
Another person unaware of YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, a Broadway tour ...
You think I'm unaware that Morrissey played a few nights at the Lunt Fontane theater? Which is on 46th Street by the way.
You weren't around in the 80s so you have no idea how big The Smiths were. And obviously no idea how big Morrissey was. Look how many hits Suedehead has on YouTube.
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
You think I'm unaware that Morrissey played a few nights at the Lunt Fontane theater? Which is on 46th Street by the way.
You weren't around in the 80s so you have no idea how big The Smiths were. And obviously no idea how big Morrissey was. Look how many hits Suedehead has on YouTube.
My favourite Morrissey video :biggrin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSeZvGgec1s
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
You think I'm unaware that Morrissey played a few nights at the Lunt Fontane theater? Which is on 46th Street by the way.
You weren't around in the 80s so you have no idea how big The Smiths were. And obviously no idea how big Morrissey was. Look how many hits Suedehead has on YouTube.
I have nowhere near the amount of knowledge as someone who lived it, obviously. But to say I have NO IDEA is a bit harsh. Does a historian have absolutely no idea about the topic they choose to study?
I know that the Smiths weren't commercially as successful as people like to think in the 80s, mainly due to the shortfalls of being on the Rough Trade label who underestimated their appeal, causing to not manufacture enough records that they were capable of selling. Their success and cult following came a lot later after they split.
Morrissey is absolutely much more successful in America than he is the UK, due to people not caring about his political views. There's even a Morrissey Day in LA, and he's able to sell out the Hollywood Bowl even in middle age.
I wouldn't downplay how successful his Broadway show is (which you clearly know about being an NY resident). The simple fact he is popular enough now at his age after all these years to even do that marks just how much of a following he still has. Regardless of the tripe the Guardian and Independent decide to put out.
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
This is mine
https://youtu.be/sbUP-Jo92qE
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Originally Posted by
Baker
I have nowhere near the amount of knowledge as someone who lived it, obviously. But to say I have NO IDEA is a bit harsh. Does a historian have absolutely no idea about the topic they choose to study?
I know that the Smiths weren't commercially as successful as people like to think in the 80s, mainly due to the shortfalls of being on the Rough Trade label who underestimated their appeal, causing to not manufacture enough records that they were capable of selling. Their success and cult following came a lot later after they split.
Morrissey is absolutely much more successful in America than he is the UK, due to people not caring about his political views. There's even a Morrissey Day in LA, and he's able to sell out the Hollywood Bowl even in middle age.
I wouldn't downplay how successful his Broadway show is (which you clearly know about being an NY resident). The simple fact he is popular enough now at his age after all these years to even do that marks just how much of a following he still has. Regardless of the tripe the Guardian and Independent decide to put out.
He's a popular artist. But it's more of a cult thing these days. I just found online that between 1992 and 2007 the Smiths actually outsold Morrissey. (very slightly) I'm trying to find out how many copies Viva Hate sold but have been unable to so far. I wouldn't be surprised if it made up at least 25% of his post Smiths sales. I love the Smiths, but I elected to see Johnny Marr the week Morrissey had his residency. He played 7 Smiths songs and 2 Electronic songs. It was a fantastic night. Have you ever checked out setlist.fm? Morrissey's set looked a little disappointing to me.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/morri...-6b90a682.html
I'd have had no problem walking out after song 7.
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
He's a popular artist. But it's more of a cult thing these days. I just found online that between 1992 and 2007 the Smiths actually outsold Morrissey. (very slightly) I'm trying to find out how many copies Viva Hate sold but have been unable to so far. I wouldn't be surprised if it made up at least 25% of his post Smiths sales. I love the Smiths, but I elected to see Johnny Marr the week Morrissey had his residency. He played 7 Smiths songs and 2 Electronic songs. It was a fantastic night. Have you ever checked out setlist.fm? Morrissey's set looked a little disappointing to me.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/morri...-6b90a682.html
I'd have had no problem walking out after song 7.
I'm pretty die hard so would be singing along to the majority of those.
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considering the hate and smear campaign the last week the album has gone straight into number 1 in the UK vinyl charts and number 4 in the official charts what an achievement
that 's a top 5 album in his 20,s , 30,s , 40,s ,50,s and now 60,s in the UK
and a message direct from the man himself
https://www.morrisseycentral.com/mes...chart-position
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
considering the hate and smear campaign the last week the album has gone straight into number 1 in the UK vinyl charts and number 4 in the official charts what an achievement
that 's a top 5 album in his 20,s , 30,s , 40,s ,50,s and now 60,s in the UK
and a message direct from the man himself
https://www.morrisseycentral.com/mes...chart-position
Superb.
He’s never “lost it”.
The greatest lyricist this country has ever seen.
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
considering the hate and smear campaign the last week the album has gone straight into number 1 in the UK vinyl charts and number 4 in the official charts what an achievement
that 's a top 5 album in his 20,s , 30,s , 40,s ,50,s and now 60,s in the UK
and a message direct from the man himself
https://www.morrisseycentral.com/mes...chart-position
The man is a god I'd have him head up Brexit
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
considering the hate and smear campaign the last week the album has gone straight into number 1 in the UK vinyl charts and number 4 in the official charts what an achievement
that 's a top 5 album in his 20,s , 30,s , 40,s ,50,s and now 60,s in the UK
and a message direct from the man himself
https://www.morrisseycentral.com/mes...chart-position
I had the Guardian delivered to my door for 10 years during the Blair years, but I realised they are nothing more than a propaganda outfit and change agents. Look how they attacked Corbyn because he wasn't the establishment Labour candidate. Anybody who thinks they are a left-leaning news organisation would be very badly mistaken. Do not let them get inside your brain :wink:
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Wales-Bales
I had the Guardian delivered to my door for 10 years during the Blair years, but I realised they are a propaganda outfit and agents for change. Look how they attacked Corbyn because he wasn't the establishment Labour candidate. Anybody who thinks they are a left-leaning news organisation would be very mistaken.
There was someone selling the complete collection of the Smiths Vinyl LP's on FB this morning £80.0 job lot.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
The man is a god I'd have him head up Brexit
^^^ this^^^ Album rocks. Down with the Guardian!
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
There was someone selling the complete collection of the Smiths Vinyl LP's on FB this morning £80.0 job lot.
Isit just their 4 albums?
About £20 a pop is the going rate I’d say so £80 makes sense.
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Isit just their 4 albums?
About £20 a pop is the going rate I’d say so £80 makes sense.
I'm not a smifs fan so not sure what albums but it looked about 6-8 in the list
Albums are
The Smith's
Hateful of Hollow
Meat is Murder
The Queen is Dead
The World won't Listen
Louder than Bombs
Strangeways here we come
Rank
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
I'm not a smifs fan so not sure what albums but it looked about 6-8 in the list
Albums are
The Smith's
Hateful of Hollow
Meat is Murder
The Queen is Dead
The World won't Listen
Louder than Bombs
Strangeways here we come
Rank
Good value for 80 sheets then.
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Good value for 80 sheets then.
For a smiths fan :hehe:
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Isit just their 4 albums?
About £20 a pop is the going rate I’d say so £80 makes sense.
Daylight robbery offer him a tenner and tell him to deliver them to your door by taxi .
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Superb.
He’s never “lost it”.
The greatest lyricist this country has ever seen.
agree spanker no one can touch him like bob dylan when it comes to poetry in music lyrics .
it's hard to believe it was only a couple of years when people like Cliff Richard and Tom Jones were supporting him on his USA tour
yes Tom Jones supporting Morrissey! is that really so strange ...............
live on broadway new york 3 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDbZdsRr7rU
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Baker
The Lone Gunman. Uses the hehe emoji when he knows he has no other argument.
You don't have to be a patronising arsewhipe your whole life mate, however long you have left of it.
Enjoy your day :thumbup:
arsewhipe ?
coolwhhhip. 😄😄
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
For a smiths fan :hehe:
Well yes, why else would you buy them?
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Originally Posted by
The Bob Banker Spanker
Well yes, why else would you buy them?
As a collector, I didn't buy them but did think it might have been a wise investment. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
agree spanker no one can touch him like bob dylan when it comes to poetry in music lyrics .
it's hard to believe it was only a couple of years when people like Cliff Richard and Tom Jones were supporting him on his USA tour
yes Tom Jones supporting Morrissey! is that really so strange ...............
live on broadway new york 3 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDbZdsRr7rU
100000% the best lyricist from this island.
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fingers
Great piece and so obvious at the same time.
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in the USA the album has gone straight in to the official billboard charts at number 7 his highest ever USA chart placing and number 3 in the vinyl charts over there . stick that up your arsenal the guardian !
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
agree spanker
no one can touch him like bob dylan when it comes to poetry in music lyrics .
it's hard to believe it was only a couple of years when people like Cliff Richard and Tom Jones were supporting him on his USA tour
yes Tom Jones supporting Morrissey! is that really so strange ...............
live on broadway new york 3 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDbZdsRr7rU
Richey Edwards
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Originally Posted by
MOZZER2
in the USA the album has gone straight in to the official billboard charts at number 7 his highest ever USA chart placing
Is that a fact?
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200
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Re: Morrissey's New Album
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Originally Posted by
Baker
I have nowhere near the amount of knowledge as someone who lived it, obviously. But to say I have NO IDEA is a bit harsh. Does a historian have absolutely no idea about the topic they choose to study?
You're a historian now?
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I personally think he’s the greatest solo artist today. It’s a shame he is still referred to by the “former smiths frontman” by many as his solo stuff is as good in my opinion. And yes I did see the smiths live back in the day. Marr is undoubtedly a nicer man but Morrissey is a flawed genius. He is labelled a racist by lazy journos who choose to attach that criticism because he doesn’t pander to the normal stereotypes or play the media game with them