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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
It’s a very good deal for us.
You won't be laughing when we sell him for £25 million after relegation.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
Even then I don't hold much hope of the club becoming professional
This board is nuts, at the end of December there was hardly a dissenting voice and people were saying how great it was that we finally have a club being run in the most professional way in living memory.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
You won't be laughing when we sell him for £25 million after relegation.
Did you mean £25 Mr Half a Bee?
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
I realise I will get slaughtered for being insensitive but we deserve relegation.
Let's face it we are not a Premiership club either on or off the pitch.
We have a poor team with players playing out of position but get picked if they are close to the manager.
Off the pitch we stumble and slip on virtually every possible transfer.
At the end of the season we need a director of football along with a new manager.
Even then I don't hold much hope of the club becoming professional
There doesn’t seem to be any structure to our transfer dealings at all.
We jump from unknown players from the Belgian leagues, to a Ricky Lambert, to established pros on the scrap heap, to free signings from league one, to players who have a good game against us, to good young championship players, to dishing out 3 year contracts to someone in their mid 30s, and near 5 year deals to a 28 years old who hasn’t turned up any trees in 5/6 years playing in English football.
There is no long term plan everything is so short sighted.
All the while there is zero path for any youngster coming through at the club.
And not forgetting the countless players we’ve had to pay out. Tan bangs on about Acorn but he’s just one of many expensive mistakes.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
That’s very harsh. The mindset would be very different if Sala was able to play for you. This is the problem. What happened has absolutely hammered the club. You just cannot legislate for that awful accident which killed two men and did the same for your season.
For me we have in the main messed up the last three transfer windows.
Summer looked encouraging with Reid and Murphy but we do not play them.
Last January we spent £6 million on a striker that didn't score and is now out on loan.
This window we have not remedied any of our gaps both in midfield or at right back.
This isn't a new thing by any means.
The club make noises like 'we'll have to wait and see' and 'we can't get it over the line' on regular occasions and we have missed most targets. Something behind the scenes is not right.
Sadly, the Sala deal looked the best bit of business we had done for quite some time but we'll never find out.
The sooner we get a football man in place to see these things through smoothly the better. What we have in place, for me, isn't good enough and it has shown time and again.
We had a chance this season from here on in with a strong window but all hope for me has all but been lost and most people I know feel the same after tonight.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Pearcey3
Did you mean £25 Mr Half a Bee?
I have every faith, Mr 3.
I haven't seen him play, you have. Your view on his ability is tainted by this.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
I realise I will get slaughtered for being insensitive but we deserve relegation.
Let's face it we are not a Premiership club either on or off the pitch.
We have a poor team with players playing out of position but get picked if they are close to the manager.
Off the pitch we stumble and slip on virtually every possible transfer.
At the end of the season we need a director of football along with a new manager.
Even then I don't hold much hope of the club becoming professional
Dont know why I am bothering with this bearing in mind that the idiots have taken over the asylum this evening but your post isnt just insensitive, its disgraceful.I suppose you think that Sala being killed in a plane crash is a stumble or slip by the club. Pratt.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Dont know why I am bothering with this bearing in mind that the idiots have taken over the asylum this evening but your post isnt just insensitive, its disgraceful.I suppose you think that Sala being killed in a plane crash is a stumble or slip by the club. Pratt.
Give it a rest. You’re the only one who keeps bringing everything back to Sala and using his death as a point scoring exercise.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Dont know why I am bothering with this bearing in mind that the idiots have taken over the asylum this evening but your post isnt just insensitive, its disgraceful.I suppose you think that Sala being killed in a plane crash is a stumble or slip by the club. Pratt.
Where has he mentioned Sala?
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
For me we have in the main messed up the last three transfer windows.
Summer looked encouraging with Reid and Murphy but we do not play them.
Last January we spent £6 million on a striker that didn't score and is now out on loan.
This window we have not remedied any of our gaps both in midfield or at right back.
This isn't a new thing by any means.
The club make noises like 'we'll have to wait and see' and 'we can't get it over the line' on regular occasions and we have missed most targets. Something behind the scenes is not right.
Sadly, the Sala deal looked the best bit of business we had done for quite some time but we'll never find out.
The sooner we get a football man in place to see these things through smoothly the better. What we have in place, for me, isn't good enough and it has shown time and again.
We had a chance this season from here on in with a strong window but all hope for me has all but been lost and most people I know feel the same after tonight.
So, you make absolutely no allowance for the Sala accident and that the staff and players are obviously devastated by what happened. Its a wonder they could turn up to work at all, let alone sign any players. You say we 'messed up' the January 2018 window, totally ignoring the fact that we were promoted to the Premier League in second place with 91 points after it. What did you expect this season then - European qualification !!
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Give it a rest. You’re the only one who keeps bringing everything back to Sala and using his death as a point scoring exercise.
Thats absolute bollocks. Its the first time I have mentioned it, in response to a totally stupid post by another idiot like you.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Where has he mentioned Sala?
I suggest that you read his post again.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats absolute bollocks. Its the first time I have mentioned it, in response to a totally stupid post by another idiot like you.
Delusional. You don’t even realise you’re doing it.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Well we have fixed it. Well be playing a midfielder there.
How do you know that. Are you psychic, along with all your other talents ?
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So, you make absolutely no allowance for the Sala accident and that the staff and players are obviously devastated by what happened. Its a wonder they could turn up to work at all, let alone sign any players. You say we 'messed up' the January 2018 window, totally ignoring the fact that we were promoted to the Premier League in second place with 91 points after it. What did you expect this season then - European qualification !!
I said in the main we have failed and I stick by that.
Our biggest deal in January 2018 was Madine. We didn't go up because of Madine but more regardless of the fact he did not score.
We signed him to score the goals to get us over the line. We managed to get these from other areas with Madine getting not one.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
I suggest that you read his post again.
I have.
He doesn't mention Sala in the post you have quoted.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
So, you make absolutely no allowance for the Sala accident and that the staff and players are obviously devastated by what happened. Its a wonder they could turn up to work at all, let alone sign any players. You say we 'messed up' the January 2018 window, totally ignoring the fact that we were promoted to the Premier League in second place with 91 points after it. What did you expect this season then - European qualification !!
I’m not being funny but the players met him once? When you think Bennet played after losing his father I don’t think we can keep using the excuse of the tragedy of what happened with sala
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
How do you know that. Are you psychic, along with all your other talents ?
It’s an opinion. You have plenty yourself.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Delusional. You don’t even realise you’re doing it.
I have spent the last two weeks telling people to stop being disrespectful and to stop talking about it, as you well know. You have spent the last two weeks, whining and moaning about the team and manager, as usual.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
I have spent the last two weeks telling people to stop being disrespectful and to stop talking about it, as you well know. You have spent the last two weeks, whining and moaning about the team and manager, as usual.
So you have mentioned it?!? 2 posts ago you said it was the first time you had mentioned it. Make you’re ****ing mind up you whopper. 🤪
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
I said in the main we have failed and I stick by that.
Our biggest deal in January 2018 was Madine. We didn't go up because of Madine but more regardless of the fact he did not score.
We signed him to score the goals to get us over the line. We managed to get these from other areas with Madine getting not one.
Aren't you enjoying following your team in the Premier League ? If not, why do you bother.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
So you have mentioned it?!? 2 posts ago you said it was the first time you had mentioned it. Make you’re ****ing mind up you whopper. ��
Its like talking to a child - you accused me of constantly bringing Sala into matters to score points, whereas what I have actually been doing is telling people to stop talking about him in the way they were, as they were being disrespectful to him and his family. If you think that that is the same thing then god help you.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Aren't you enjoying following your team in the Premier League ? If not, why do you bother.
i've tried to clean up threads that involve personal bickering, I've banned someone as well, but dml you keep turning up as the most agrumentative poster here.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Its like talking to a child - you accused me of constantly bringing Sala into matters to score points, whereas what I have actually been doing is telling people to stop talking about him in the way they were, as they were being disrespectful to him and his family. If you think that that is the same thing then god help you.
The first person to mention Sala in this discussion was YOU.
The discussion was fine until you showed up. No arguing. No bickering.
As for telling people to stop discussing football on a football forum? That’s very noble of you.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Aren't you enjoying following your team in the Premier League ? If not, why do you bother.
Good question.
I felt we went down last time without giving it a proper go and feel that this season we have missed opportunities to right the wrongs of our last tilt at staying in this league.
Now I haven't enjoyed us setting up to defend in the main especially against teams like Huddersfield at home. I am also not in for gushing over the stars of another club. I am there to watch City in the main.
Do I enjoy having our @rses handed to us by the cream of this league? No. Do I like us seemingly setting up to draw 0-0 with the second worst defensive record in this league? No.
I have enjoyed some games this season. Both Arsenal games, Fulham home, to cut a long story short the games where we have thrown caution to the wind and giving them something to think about.
I really feel that we could have strengthened well and had a good tilt at staying up. Having seen what we have seemingly looked to strengthen with though, I now fear the worst.
I think our best chance from here on in would be to get our best attacking threats on the pitch and set up as we did at Arsenal and Leicester and not die wondering.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Michael Morris
i've tried to clean up threads that involve personal bickering, I've banned someone as well, but dml you keep turning up as the most agrumentative poster here.
Mike, I am trying to defend myself here. I have tried to avoid confrontation but some of the stuff in this thread is disgraceful and the usual suspects are all having a go at me for defending the club and manager. I try to avoid swearing and personal insults, which is something that other people appear to do for fun. I dont see why I should put up with bullying and people 'ganging up' on my posts. If trying to defend the club and manager/team is wrong then fair enough.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Mike, I am trying to defend myself here. I have tried to avoid confrontation but some of the stuff in this thread is disgraceful and the usual syspects are all having a go at me for defending the club and manager. I try to avoid swearing and personal insults, which is something that other people appear to do for fun. I dont see why I should put up with bullying and people 'ganging up' on my posts. If trying to defend the club and manager/team is wrong then fair enough.
Are you for real?
You weren’t even involved in the thread and your first input was to start calling people idiots and one poster a prat because you didn’t agree with them.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Good question.
I felt we went down last time without giving it a proper go and feel that this season we have missed opportunities to right the wrongs of our last tilt at staying in this league.
Now I haven't enjoyed us setting up to defend in the main especially against teams like Huddersfield at home. I am also not in for gushing over the stars of another club. I am there to watch City in the main.
Do I enjoy having our @rses handed to us by the cream of this league? No. Do I like us seemingly setting up to draw 0-0 with the second worst defensive record in this league? No.
I have enjoyed some games this season. Both Arsenal games, Fulham home, to cut a long story short the games where we have thrown caution to the wind and giving them something to think about.
I really feel that we could have strengthened well and had a good tilt at staying up. Having seen what we have seemingly looked to strengthen with though, I now fear the worst.
I think our best chance from here on in would be to get our best attacking threats on the pitch and set up as we did at Arsenal and Leicester and not die wondering.
Thats a much more reasonable post and I agree with parts of it, especially the last paragraph. I dont however feel that this window can be taken as anywhere near a normal occasion due to obvious reasons. If Sala was playing for us, we would have had two weeks to concentrate on other areas of the team but I feel that we have had to start again almost from scratch which has impacted adversely
on everything else. We are also not cut adrift at the bottom and still have a chance but quite a few who post on here appear to have totally written us off, which is extremely frustrating. Until we are four points behind with only one game to play, I wont be giving up. I have enjoyed the Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton home games. What about Leicester away as well. Its not all doom and gloom.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Are you for real?
You weren’t even involved in the thread and your first input was to start calling people idiots and one poster a prat because you didn’t agree with them.
Are you a moderator now ? No, I didnt think so. Why do you continually answer other peoples posts. You have just proved to Mike what I was saying, so thanks.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Are you a moderator now ? No, I didnt think so. Why do you continually answer other peoples posts. You have just proved to Mike what I was saying, so thanks.
Oh the irony.
You’re not a moderator either so stop telling everyone what they can and cannot post.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a much more reasonable post and I agree with parts of it, especially the last paragraph. I dont however feel that this window can be taken as anywhere near a normal occasion due to obvious reasons. If Sala was playing for us, we would have had two weeks to concentrate on other areas of the team but I feel that we have had to start again almost from scratch which has impacted adversely
on everything else. We are also not cut adrift at the bottom and still have a chance but quite a few who post on here appear to have totally written us off, which is extremely frustrating. Until we are four points behind with only one game to play, I wont be giving up. I have enjoyed the Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton home games. What about Leicester away as well. Its not all doom and gloom.
I won't give up either. I just wanted more of a cause for optimism coming out of this transfer window.
A few factors have transpired against that and we're left with the squad we've now got.
Leicester was the highlight of the season for me to date and a real 'I was there' moment following City. Nothing beats a late winner at a ground you are not meant to take anything from and they don't come much better than that.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Oh the irony.
You’re not a moderator either so stop telling everyone what they can and cannot post.
Ditto.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Thats a much more reasonable post and I agree with parts of it, especially the last paragraph. I dont however feel that this window can be taken as anywhere near a normal occasion due to obvious reasons. If Sala was playing for us, we would have had two weeks to concentrate on other areas of the team but I feel that we have had to start again almost from scratch which has impacted adversely
on everything else. We are also not cut adrift at the bottom and still have a chance but quite a few who post on here appear to have totally written us off, which is extremely frustrating. Until we are four points behind with only one game to play, I wont be giving up. I have enjoyed the Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton home games. What about Leicester away as well. Its not all doom and gloom.
I agree we’ve showed in some games we can compete and even pass the ball about a bit and I agree with tuerto that we always look a lot better when pressing higher up the pitch it’s the games like Newcastle away which leaves me with so much doubts the other frustrating part is NW has his favourites and will continue playing his percentage football no matter what, were you not disappointed he took off Reid against arsenal?
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
I suggest that you read his post again.
The incident you keep bringing up is a real tragedy but professional businesses cannot "throw in the towel" when something like this happens.
Someone at the club must take the lead, if our manager is unable to.
From your posts you come across as someone who wouldn't mind us finishing bottom but will "enjoy the short ride in the premiership".
Sorry, I do not share your outlook.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
Does anyone else like to read the OP and then skip to the final page to see how far things have diverted from thread topic?
I said we could improve our squad by signing players as good as the ones we have and allowing for better rotation - I think Bacuna has a decent shot at becoming our best RB (especially if we play system used against Arsenal) so it's an improvement from my point of view. If we had more time I'm sure we could have added a DM and an attacking midfielder but circumstances made this more difficult. If it helps, no matter what happens from now on, we've definitely had our worst month of the season finish and a new month begins today.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
The incident you keep bringing up is a real tragedy but professional businesses cannot "throw in the towel" when something like this happens.
Someone at the club must take the lead, if our manager is unable to.
From your posts you come across as someone who wouldn't mind us finishing bottom but will "enjoy the short ride in the premiership".
Sorry, I do not share your outlook.
No of course they can't throw in the towel, and elements of both this and the summer transfer window have been frustrating but we DID break our transfer record to buy a player who we lost in tragic circumstances.
Whether he would have saved the day sadly we'll never know but posts along the lines of "yeah I know we lost Sala" and then going on to criticise the club for their transfer dealings seem a bit harsh. Even just looked at coldly purely in terms of things to happen to a business it's quite a big thing , especially for a club like ours. I'm not saying that gives Neil and the board a free pass but I think it has to be given a bit more consideration when critiquing the club's transfer dealings this window.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
No of course they can't throw in the towel, and elements of both this and the summer transfer window have been frustrating but we DID break our transfer record to buy a player who we lost in tragic circumstances.
Whether he would have saved the day sadly we'll never know but posts along the lines of "yeah I know we lost Sala" and then going on to criticise the club for their transfer dealings seem a bit harsh. Even just looked at coldly purely in terms of things to happen to a business it's quite a big thing , especially for a club like ours. I'm not saying that gives Neil and the board a free pass but I think it has to be given a bit more consideration when critiquing the club's transfer dealings this window.
Well put, I think you've got it spot on.
Also, on the subject of this thread, I've just come across this positive piece on him, but I do wonder how many times the writer has actually seen Bacuna play.
https://www.footballfancast.com/prem...a-from-reading
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
No of course they can't throw in the towel, and elements of both this and the summer transfer window have been frustrating but we DID break our transfer record to buy a player who we lost in tragic circumstances.
Whether he would have saved the day sadly we'll never know but posts along the lines of "yeah I know we lost Sala" and then going on to criticise the club for their transfer dealings seem a bit harsh. Even just looked at coldly purely in terms of things to happen to a business it's quite a big thing , especially for a club like ours. I'm not saying that gives Neil and the board a free pass but I think it has to be given a bit more consideration when critiquing the club's transfer dealings this window.
Agreed.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
No of course they can't throw in the towel, and elements of both this and the summer transfer window have been frustrating but we DID break our transfer record to buy a player who we lost in tragic circumstances.
Whether he would have saved the day sadly we'll never know but posts along the lines of "yeah I know we lost Sala" and then going on to criticise the club for their transfer dealings seem a bit harsh. Even just looked at coldly purely in terms of things to happen to a business it's quite a big thing , especially for a club like ours. I'm not saying that gives Neil and the board a free pass but I think it has to be given a bit more consideration when critiquing the club's transfer dealings this window.
Well said.
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Re: Bacuna is a Bluebird - CONFIRMED
Looking at recent threads about starting line ups the name Bacuna doesn't crop up very much. It was a somewhat mystifying signing in the last transfer window and things don't seem to be much clearer now, at least to me. At the recent Trust meeting Rob Phillips, Jason Perry and Nathan Blake were asked why they thought we signed him, where did they see him fitting in the team and why did we give him a four and a half year contract. All three were completely nonplussed, couldn't predict if he would start and if he did where he would play and were amazed at the length of contract. When it was pointed out that his agent is Unique Sports Management it did go a bit quiet and nothing more was said. Anyone else have a view on where he fits in ?