Apparently the writers are scheduled for new tv shows so there was this rush job done.
I think i will give these shows amiss as i dont want to waste 6 7 seasons just for them to do a hatchet job at the end.
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Apparently the writers are scheduled for new tv shows so there was this rush job done.
I think i will give these shows amiss as i dont want to waste 6 7 seasons just for them to do a hatchet job at the end.
Another load of holes in this episode, notably the complete change in personality of Danaeris, Jaime Lannister's likewise, in just a couple of episodes.
Can't stand action movies especially fantasy ones and this series sucks on all fronts.
They'd have been better leaving it at seven series with loads of open ends.
Shocking!
Just feels quite odd.
Even in the space of a minute during the conversation he has with Tyrion Jaime goes from not caring if everyone in Kings landing dies to being convinced he must get Cersei to surrender. Also the part where he didn't think to take his arm off, he's many things but not naive.
Daenarys needed a few seasons of transforming into a raging psychopath, I just don't buy her throwing away seasons of having compassion, freeing slaves and the innocent to suddenly burning everyone. She has always had psychotic traits but the change has been far too quick.
And the situation where the iron fleet kill her dragon...even tho historically ships are very vulnerable to the air....cos they have A Birds Eye View then in this episode she destroys them in 3 minutes. Awful writing
Seasons 7 and 8 are too rushed.
Still compelling drama but could have been so much better if it wasn't such a race to the finishing line.
I don't mind Dany going full psycho (The Mad Queen) but too many other characters and story lines have been yanked out of kilter.
Whatever happened to Ellaria Sand? Last seen in Cersei's dungeon (S7 E2) after being captured by Euron. She was responsible for the death of Cersei's daughter so bad things were in store. But she has disappeared totally. Buried in the rubble of the Red Keep?
I was very harsh in my original comments on this thread, unfortunately not much has changed my mind. I agree with the previous comments that it is a pacing issue.
Danny turning mad is a good twist however it was so rushed and not developed enough to make it impact-full,
The reason I believe most characters are doing things which feel out of character is also due to being rushed, Jamie going back to Cersei could have also been a good surprise if there was developments leading up to his decision.
I really hated Tyrion turning on Varys, since when has talking treason been so against his values? especially while he is conflicted on the matter just as much as Varys was. He seemed content and accepting of Vary's fate, while he would previous beg for lives of people such as the Tarly's. She knew anyway so would have been much better to kill him against Tyrions will and to his horror, would have made the scene more powerful and developed her going Mad at a better pace
I really enjoyed the last episode, it was a spectacular bit of TV - I saw one reference saying the scene where the dragon burns down the gate with the Golden Company in front of it involved setting 21 stuntmen on fire, the most ever in the history of film and TVin one scene. Yes, the pacing is a bit rushed, especially as the early part of the series really allowed characters to develop but they have to finish it and Daenrys going mad and Jamie returning to Cersei isn't a stretch too far ( you could see where they were going with the dragon queen last series). There was also a very touching powerful scene between Jamie and Tyron when he released him and said he was the only person who didn't treat him as a monster when Jamie had done so many evil things in the past.
It would have been more satisfying to conclude the series over 10 episodes but I don't understand the internet "hate" for the last episode, it really was spectacular TV
There in lies the problem though they went for spectacular cgi and ignored the dialogue which most people would’ve preferred the opposite, I don’t think any one can argue that no matter what they do someone is going to be upset but you can’t invest 8-10 years in a story then shit all over it right at the end to shock people or make it look spectacular
Remake series 8!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48303921
They only needed to spend big on 2 episodes but no need to go over the top imo especially not to the extent they have that seriously hurts the story line, I'm convinced Arya only killed the knight king because she's a women and that seems to be the in thing now with the me too movement I don't really mind her killing him but there has to be some reasoning behind it ffs she didn't even know who they were 2 episodes ago then she's busting Jon's balls don't forget who you are and where you come from blah blah blah then ****s off to kings landing herself swearing never to come back :shrug: it's become obvious dumb and dumber haven't really taken any advice from George and without the books directing them they haven't got a clue, let's just hope he actually finishes the books
Depends what you see as spectacular - generally speaking, the sort of flashy and expensive graphics seen in the last episode don't do it for me, especially when you have a product as good as this programme has been until this series. There have been spectacular and very effective battle scenes in Game of Thrones before (e.g. Battle of the Bastards which I have called the most effective battle scene I've ever seen on film or television on here - it was far more realistic for me than the one in this week's episode).
I thought series 7 was a bit of a downturn in quality, but series 8 has been another level again - the balance between dialogue and action used to be just right, it has swing far too much in favour of the latter in this series.
GOT quiz - 80 questions.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...f-thrones-quiz
I got 63.
74
Finale was last night over here. The whole last season has been shite and the final episode didn’t improve on that
I thought the finale was OK. For once I stayed up and watched at 2.00 am - and I was fairly pleased with the way that the plotlines were tied off or resolved. It was a little bit too contrived at times in order to explain what happened to all the main characters (the council of lords....), but the outcome made sense, and there were not many of the character and plot lurches that we saw in the two previous episodes.
I can't wait for the sequels: 'ARYA IN AMERICOS', 'JON SNOW IN THE SNOW' and 'THE 3 EYED RAVEN KNOWS STUFF'.
Rushed as hell. Soooo disappointing end to a great aeries.
And..
after the coffe cup fiasco, the final episode has TWO water bottles left in shot!
Lazy writing, lazier editing.
This show deserved better.
Looking forward to the remake in 10-15 years when the books have actually been released.
Time is not going to be kind to the writers of the show, particularly as HBO have thrown them under the bus, stating they turned down the opportunity for far more episodes. Looking more and more like a) the series was rushed and b) rushed because they want to start their star wars commitments.
GRRM should share quite a lot of the blame as well, 8 years to finish any book is quite frankly absurd.
Really disappointed, so rushed, wont go into detail about the plot holes in case people watching later,
So here is my take..
I really liked the last episode! pacing was much better, tied up loose ends nicely and nothing to spectacular which you do not need on the last episode (that stuff should rightly come before)
dialogue and acting and characters were all true to themselves.
However I can not believe we have got here in 5 episodes... 2 seasons would have been perfect but even if they had just done the extra 3 episodes HBO offered it could have saved a lot of the development issues
Why does he need a master of whisperers?
What was point of Jons parentage?
Why would the rest of westeros accept a Stark as king when he's from the North which just declared it's independence? Why couldn't the heads of the other houses request this?
I thought the ending was fine. The whole series has been rushed and would have made more sense spread over 10 episodes or 2 more series but the season finale mostly worked - and Jon Snow at least patted Ghost this time! :thumbup:
Haven't enjoyed season 8 but was quite happy with the finale, within the world the season had led it to at least. Tied up the characters, decent enough ending.
However the whole season has felt rushed, character development replaced by visually pleasing action scenes. Feel like it could have been much better but in the end I'm glad I feel as though the final episode at least made the best of the situation.
I'll need to rewatch the episode again to fully process it but my immediate reaction is disappointed, there's still so much unanswered and a lot of characters who have major parts to play or at least they did originally and in the books but have become pointless, there has been no natural progression in this series and the last it's hardly surprising that the show has taken a downward spiral since they've ran out of material
I’d suggest watching the last episode whilst doing something else. Yawn yawn zzzzzzzzzz!
Top tip : watch the last few episodes with the sound off, add your own dialogue and its like watching an expensive version of monty python, the holy grail.
Last episode was absolutely SHITE ..... Struggled to stay awake :facepalm:
The underlying mystery of the whole series was Jon's true parentage.
Then it is revealed.
Then it is ignored - he's sent off to the Wall - which serves no purpose whatsoever now that the NK and walkers are gone.
I thought it would be much better if his bloodline wasn't revealed;
He becomes more and more disillusioned with Dany's growing mad streak (slowly, not crammed into a few episodes);
She accuses him of treason;
She gets the dragon to burn him - but he doesn't burn, and we (and the cast) find he's Targaryen
I enjoyed the series and the ending - it's a fantasy and shouldn't be taken as seriously as some people seem to.
However, do I sense a growing demand for a 'People's Remake' because not everybody liked the end result?