I can't see it happening myself!
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I'm sure this message board didn't used to be so full of grumpy old men
Not always. I don't quite follow that line.
100 years ago, the vast majority of people would have had the opinion that a woman's place is in the home. They would have also thought children should be seen and not heard.
Anyone who still has those opinions is now an utter knob. We're seeing issues like homosexuality and gender no longer bother younger people. In a couple of generations it would be great if people were seen just as people and not judged by issues such as that. Anyone who thinks homosexuality is a bad thing are so out of touch their opinions aren't worth anything as the world has moved on.
Having opinions is one thing. Having opinions that are valid is another. Hiding behind "it's my opinion, you need to accept that" when that opinion is a load of bollocks is one of the most frustrating aspects of conversation.
I think it's more a case of a very small number of incels infecting this board. It may well only be 2 or 3 but using multiple log ins. The boards moderator has failed to spot this or, more likely, is supportive of their views. This thread sums up the consequence of his inaction.
The modern world terrifies them. Change is always bad and they feel threatened. They see conspiracy theories everywhere. They are the true snowflakes, scared of their own shadow.
Quite a few sane, sensible posters have left of late and I can't say I blame them.
Eric, who brought up any of this??!
Nobody says a woman's place is in the kitchen. Nobody says children should be seen, not heard. Nobody is being racist or homophobic ffs.....!
Get a grip. People are entitled to opinions. If they don't match yours, it's ok.
My opinion is that women are clearly physically inferior to men. Maybe in 100 years that may change, I know a few that could be mistaken for blokes :hehe:
The point is that the two variants of football should be kept separate. For now at least....
Women can have their football, I just don't feel they should be a part of the men's game. I'm sure they don't want Ian Wright being part of their game either!
Wow, just wow!
I'm not a multi-account holder. Nor am I a conspiracy theorist or "snowflake" as you put it :hehe:
What's scary is that people like you have become so ingrained in this PC mentality that you can't stand it when someone else has a difference of opinion and wants to stand up to it!
I personally think the moderation of this board is excellent. If the boss and mods bent over for people like you, trust me... There would be nobody here!
Another thread where we have seen mental gymnastics on an elite Olympic level.
I was just countering your opinion that differences of opinion are healthy. They can be sometimes, but not always. I don't believe anyone can hold any opinion about anything, especially when it can be proved that it's a load of utter bollocks or whether that opinion is hopelessly out of touch, no longer valid etc. In such cases, a difference of opinion is hardly healthy.
Again, I'm not suggesting they shouldn't do those jobs!
My point is simple. Let them officiate the women's games. There are many men, probably quite a few ex players who didn't make it, had their careers cut short through injury etc, that would probably kill for those opportunities.
It's not rocket science is it?
I didn't see Souness's comment, nor Carney's reaction, but I did hear Souness talking about what he said on a TS link.
I also came on and noticed this thread pretty late too.
I read the first few posts but decided against reading the rest apart from the last few.
It has a very familiar look to it from what I can gather with people arguing the toss over women in football.
Whether Souness meant to say what he said, as has been mentioned re a dig at the women's game, or whether he just wanted to give his backing to a more physical style of play, matters not a jot to me personally.
He always played the game the way he is advocating, i.e. leaving the foot in and letting your opponent know you are there but the point many are missing is why the physical side has been phased out in the first place.
The main reason was to protect clubs' assets against hatchet men like Souness.
Not my favourite pundit but I do admire him for sticking by what he said as many would crumble going along with the narrative which has become very popular of late and apologise profusely.
I was Eric. And you're right. I give up. It's almost as if I've never used it before. See, I can't help myself.
Just to point out that, to anyone who's not up to speed, the "it's just my opinion" ending to a few of my posts were to make a point about....oh **** it. I'm done.
Edit: sorry ryk, just saw your :thumbup: mate.....It's a hard crowd tonight! :hehe:
Robyn Cowen? She's the main female commentator used by the BBC and I don't particularly like her commentary for that reason. There are other women commentators who are far better and who contribute lots of insight into the game. Let's be honest, man or woman who has played the game at international level will know more about it than any fan. What do women know about the men's game? More than those in the crowd.
Hatchet men like Souness? He was a terrific footballer, he had the lot for a midfielder - he could tackle, pass, shoot. He went and played in Italy when it was the best league in the world, at a time very few British players got that opportunity.
I have no problem with women's football. I didn't watch the Euros, but I'd definitely watch the USWNT in the World Cup or the Olympics on TV. I probably wouldn't bother with a club game though. What annoys me is when a women's team are just referred to as "Manchester City" or "Arsenal". They wouldn't refer to Man City under 23s as such so why do it for the women's team? I saw a report in the Guardian that alluded to something along the lines of "the Lionesses winning the Euros in better than when England won the World Cup. What a load of bollocks.
I don't see what the problem with female officials is. There are female coppers, lawyers, doctors etc. There may be a difference between genders in physical prowess, but there are no differences in critical thinking and exercising good judgment.
Also, all that nonsense about ending a 56-year drought is ridiculous.