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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yet we've brought in 2 attacking midfielders on loan from the same club....
Ones a winger replacing Mendez Laing, but I suppose that’s Harris fault too whatever NML has done so wrong that no one wants to touch him with a barge pole.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yet we've brought in 2 attacking midfielders on loan from the same club....
Were you happy to start the season with our attacking midfield options before doing that? If memory serves that was made up of Murphy, Whyte, Hoilett, Patterson and Tomlin.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Ones a winger replacing Mendez Laing, but I suppose that’s Harris fault too whatever NML has done so wrong that no one wants to touch him with a barge pole.
That has also had an impact on the club. We're still no closer to finding out what happened there.
The club could easily have brought in a right back on loan. Sanderson was touted for a short while. That failure is a cock up by the transfer committee.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That has also had an impact on the club. We're still no closer to finding out what happened there.
The club could easily have brought in a right back on loan. Sanderson was touted for a short while. That failure is a cock up by the transfer committee.
They went for Wilson, and we're now skint. Sanderson is absolute garbage so I'm glad we didn't go back in for him but the lack of a right back means we're missing Bacuna in the middle. NML has had a massive impact and we've shifted some big characters in the dressing room. Granted they were on big money but I think it's had an impact.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
For what it is worth a poll on the other site has seen around 100 vote already with over 95% wanting Harris gone.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
surge
Were you happy to start the season with our attacking midfield options before doing that? If memory serves that was made up of Murphy, Whyte, Hoilett, Patterson and Tomlin.
No, it needed improving. I'd argue that our attacking options have never improved from Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke and Whittingham.
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Harris needs to drop a few players and try something new.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
They went for Wilson, and we're now skint. Sanderson is absolute garbage so I'm glad we didn't go back in for him but the lack of a right back means we're missing Bacuna in the middle. NML has had a massive impact and we've shifted some big characters in the dressing room. Granted they were on big money but I think it's had an impact.
I've no idea why we risked Osei-Tutu against Middlesbrough. Right-back is the one position where we can't cope with a long-term injury.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
LeningradCowboy
I've no idea why we risked Osei-Tutu against Middlesbrough. Right-back is the one position where we can't cope with a long-term injury.
Some of his decisions hasn’t worked. A gamble.
Bacuna CANNOT play RB
He’s actually v good in midfield
Time to go to a back 3? Not sure what solution is but if things stay same with results he’ll be gone by Xmas
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
For what it is worth a poll on the other site has seen around 100 vote already with over 95% wanting Harris gone.
It’s not worth anything. 97 of the 100 were probably ***** and Roathy.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I totally agree. The shortermism of our promotion to the PL and total failure to build on it are major factors (that includes Warnock). Still think Harris has lost it though and that is costing us more than anything else at this moment in time. We're still better than 18th in the Championship.
5 players on the pitch tonight that continually turn out for us, both last season and the season in the premier league. That's a spine and i agree we are better than 18th.
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
5 players on the pitch tonight that continually turn out for us, both last season and the season in the premier league. That's a spine and i agree we are better than 18th.
Yes we are better than 18th but please stop reffering to them as premier league players. They are not. They are championship players who played a season in the championship (and didn’t do too well)
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Some of his decisions hasn’t worked. A gamble.
Bacuna CANNOT play RB
He’s actually v good in midfield
Time to go to a back 3? Not sure what solution is but if things stay same with results he’ll be gone by Xmas
We've been awful when we've started with a back 3 under Harris.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
It was one of Warnock’s good points being ‘in the know’, players such as Bamba, Hoilett, NML, Etheridge coming to us because of him really not because we’re Cardiff City. Of course he went on to waste money and burden us with dross but his initial bargain basement wheeling and dealing initially steadied a sinking ship.
You are bang on and a lot of people seem to forget this and just focus on how rubbish he was when spending money.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
Sure, a season after being relegated from the premier league.
Many teams relegated from the Premiership do not get to the playoffs the season after they were relegated.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Yes we are better than 18th but please stop reffering to them as premier league players. They are not. They are championship players who played a season in the championship (and didn’t do too well)
How can we be better than 18th?!
We ARE 18th!!
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Youve still got to spend it wisely. We completely wasted a lot of money last season but even then it was nothing compared to what others in the division spent.
Brentford just signed a striker for 10m. We signed one for 2m.
They also just sold one for £38 million!
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Free signings on short term contracts, some work out, some don't.
Whyte never looked up to much for us. Never £2m. Poor.
Warnock's signings prior to the start of last season were dreadful and have helped put us in this position. However, that's not the reason for inept performances like we've seen this season.
Exactly.
People blaming Warnock for Harris's ineptitude is laughable. Why not blame Trollope and Slade as well? And OGS and Malky.
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Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
They also just sold one for £38 million!
That they bought for peanuts and developed. That’s what they do - they sign players with resale value. Invest in more players and gave a long term strategy. Whereas your mate Colin wastes millions on players with no resale value. Stick to licking the windows Mandy, leave the football economics to others.
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
How can we be better than 18th?!
We ARE 18th!!
Has the season finished then?
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Exactly.
People blaming Warnock for Harris's ineptitude is laughable. Why not blame Trollope and Slade as well? And OGS and Malky.
The squad is old and not half as good as we think. Warnock pissed all the money we had to spend up the wall. You love to slag off Glatzel as much as anyone, who spent 5.5m on him? Nelson, Whyte, Flint, Pack, Vaulks, Glatzel, Day, Vassell! Our rebuild was done at great expense and one player improved the side, and now we can't afford to improve. We were just as bad under Warnock last season as well. He also bombed out the one player that could play in Reid.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
You are bang on and a lot of people seem to forget this and just focus on how rubbish he was when spending money.
We sold those 4 players on for a grand total of 1m. One sixth of a Gary Madine.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Exactly.
People blaming Warnock for Harris's ineptitude is laughable. Why not blame Trollope and Slade as well? And OGS and Malky.
Because Harris isn't lumbered with crap players signed by them.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
How can we be better than 18th?!
We ARE 18th!!
We should be 19th but have the saving grace of Wednesday having started on minus 10 points.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
We should be 19th but have the saving grace of Wednesday having started on minus 10 points.
If my aunty had wheels she'd be a bicycle. Also, they started on -6, so they'd still be behind us.
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Originally Posted by
LeningradCowboy
Because Harris isn't lumbered with crap players signed by them.
Didn't whoever followed OGS (was it Slade? It was instantly forgettable....) inherit all of his rubbish signings, or did I just imagine all of those Scandinavians that no one had ever heard of? And did we all then blame OGS for Slade being rubbish?
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Has the season finished then?
Well it never started for Harris and it looks well and truly over for us, and it will be soon the way the team is 'playing'.
But let's forget the league table shall we? It doesn't really matter does it? :facepalm:Let's pretend that we aren't 18th, and everything will be OK. :tumbleweed:
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Didn't whoever followed OGS (was it Slade? It was instantly forgettable....) inherit all of his rubbish signings, or did I just imagine all of those Scandinavians that no one had ever heard of? And did we all then blame OGS for Slade being rubbish?
Yeah Manga was shit wasn’t he
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
Well it never started for Harris and it looks well and truly over for us, and it will be soon the way the team is 'playing'.
But let's forget the league table shall we? It doesn't really matter does it? :facepalm:Let's pretend that we aren't 18th, and everything will be OK. :tumbleweed:
It’s ok fella Lee Johnson will be in the hot seat soon. A good fit for you. He’s deluded too. A good fit that is until he loses one match and you’ll want him out.
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People keep suggesting Lee Johnson as some kind of pop at posters like he is worse than Harris.
Give Johnson this squad and he wouldn't be sat in 18th, I'm almost certain of it.
Johnson win percentage in his whole time at Bristol City was over 38%. Harris' so far this season is 23% and 12.5% in the last 8 games.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
It’s ok fella Lee Johnson will be in the hot seat soon. A good fit for you. He’s deluded too. A good fit that is until he loses one match and you’ll want him out.
There are very few people left clinging to Harris as the saviour and you are one of them.
You really need to ask yourself: who is deluded here?
Uh oh.......:biggrin:
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
People keep suggesting Lee Johnson as some kind of pop at posters like he is worse than Harris.
Give Johnson this squad and he wouldn't be sat in 18th, I'm almost certain of it.
He’d probably be sat in 3rd but then by the end of the season struggling to escape relegation. That’s how his seasons usually go.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
There are very few people left clinging to Harris as the saviour and you are one of them.
You really need to ask yourself: who is deluded here?
Uh oh.......:biggrin:
Who’s saying he’s the saviour? I just don’t think changing the manager every 5 minutes is the way forward. There’s clearly other things at play within the club which will be a problem for ANY manager.
You are deluded if you think sacking Harris will be an end to those problems.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
He’d probably be sat in 3rd but then by the end of the season struggling to escape relegation. That’s how his seasons usually go.
If he had us escaping relegation it would be one better than where we're currently heading.
Fast forward to April and it would be the same noises coming from Harris.
"I've let the players know what I think"
"It isn't good enough"
"We look forward to the next game"
Harris has no clue of how to rescue this.
He has been here 12 months now, doesn't know his starting eleven, doesn't know how to set up an effective shape to the team and has no playing philosophy other than negative.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Who’s saying he’s the saviour? I just don’t think changing the manager every 5 minutes is the way forward. There’s clearly other things at play within the club which will be a problem for ANY manager.
You are deluded if you think sacking Harris will be an end to those problems.
But it could avoid relegation and provide an upturn in fortunes on the pitch. At the moment we have an expensive Championship side. Being in a relegation battle is unthinkable for the value of that side.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
But it could avoid relegation and provide an upturn in fortunes on the pitch. At the moment we have an expensive Championship side. Being in a relegation battle is unthinkable for the value of that side.
Do we? We have an average mid table Championship side not hitting the heights they should be hitting, you’d swear we were 23rd / 24th with Bournemouth’s squad the way you are carrying on.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
People keep suggesting Lee Johnson as some kind of pop at posters like he is worse than Harris.
Give Johnson this squad and he wouldn't be sat in 18th, I'm almost certain of it.
Johnson win percentage in his whole time at Bristol City was over 38%. Harris' so far this season is 23% and 12.5% in the last 8 games.
What’s his % since taking over?
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
If he had us escaping relegation it would be one better than where we're currently heading.
Fast forward to April and it would be the same noises coming from Harris.
"I've let the players know what I think"
"It isn't good enough"
"We look forward to the next game"
Harris has no clue of how to rescue this.
He has been here 12 months now, doesn't know his starting eleven, doesn't know how to set up an effective shape to the team and has no playing philosophy other than negative.
You couldn’t give the guy any credit when he got us to play offs so you’re bleating is falling on deaf ears I’m afraid.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
If he had us escaping relegation it would be one better than where we're currently heading.
Fast forward to April and it would be the same noises coming from Harris.
"I've let the players know what I think"
"It isn't good enough"
"We look forward to the next game"
Harris has no clue of how to rescue this.
He has been here 12 months now, doesn't know his starting eleven, doesn't know how to set up an effective shape to the team and has no playing philosophy other than negative.
Hold on so he gets criticised for rotating his squad by ‘not knowing his starting eleven’ and others criticising for starting his best players like Tutu and getting injured because of fixture pile ups?
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
What’s his % since taking over?
:hehe:
Let’s be fair. I could find a sample of Lee Johnson’s worst period at the Gummidges - and there’s been a few - and compare to Harris whole time at Cardiff if I wanted but it’s midnight and I can’t be arsed composing such a ridiculous post.