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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
Archie
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:20
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 18:05
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:34
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:18
Sorry - I should add that when I mentioned being on the streets I was talking about demonstrations and marches or social evenings to save the local school or the local rubbish tip (i.e direct action). Not really sure what you thought I meant. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/rolleyes.gif
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:29
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
Has it ever occurred to you that the ideals of the working man have changed over the years? Labour were left wing when it was required - when the working man had little say and few rights. Those days are gone, your typical worker these days has rights and a good standard of living. Perhaps labour shifting towards the centre is a recognition of that fact
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
Archie
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
I don't think I have archie. Not in any serious conversation I haven't. Labour are anything but socialist.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
And breathe.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:47
Archie
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
When have I claimed in a serious discussion that Labour are socialist? They are just left of centre.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:46
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:29
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
Has it ever occurred to you that the ideals of the working man have changed over the years? Labour were left wing when it was required - when the working man had little say and few rights. Those days are gone, your typical worker these days has rights and a good standard of living. Perhaps labour shifting towards the centre is a recognition of that fact
Clearly the result in Scotland demonstrates that there is a demand for a more progressive agenda and peope will vote for it.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:50
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:46
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:29
Has it ever occurred to you that the ideals of the working man have changed over the years? Labour were left wing when it was required - when the working man had little say and few rights. Those days are gone, your typical worker these days has rights and a good standard of living. Perhaps labour shifting towards the centre is a recognition of that fact
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
There you go, demonstrating how out of touch with the working man you are again.
There were plenty of left and hard left choices for voters and pretty much these parties were ignored. In fact, most parties came below the monster raving loony party. That tells you everything you need to know about the UK electorate and it's desire for socialism
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
But that does not mean there is not a bunch of people out there waiting for a decent left wing party to come along. The problem is the big boy on the block has been having an identity crises for several decades now. Labour seem to think the only way to beat the tories is to out tory them. Perhaps they should spend the next five years actually being left wing and see how that pans out. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:01
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
add up the combined total of all left wing parties votes and you will be lucky to get above 20000 votes across the UK
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
We are both pleased with the fact that there are now 56 scotish socialists in westminster.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:05
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
And breathe.
The SNP are centre left - try harder archie. That's a poor attempt.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:04
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:01
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:47
Archie
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
When have I claimed in a serious discussion that Labour are socialist? They are just left of centre.
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Originally Posted by Removed User wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 09:13
You have spent the last five years claiming that Labour are socialists - and you have the cheek to call ME a troll?
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Originally Posted by Broken Machine wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 03:19
That's right. Lets ignore the fact the welsh NHS is an utter shambles thanks to welsh labour and their socialist doctrine of ensuring we have poor standards
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:05
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
And breathe.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 23:04
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:05
And breathe.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
Suck what upbullisy.
I fear that many of then though , in the coming years , may well experience personally some of the scenarios they condemn unfortunate people for now. I hope not for their sake.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:10
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:04
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:01
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
so the SNP have shown the way to kick the tory scum out of scotland by taking 40 labour seats
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
Ffs you cannot educate pork.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
I will explain it to you in a way you will understand.
We've already established the SNP aren't socialist so their votes don't count towards 5his mythical socialist vote you're trying to create.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:33
Archie
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:47
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
When have I claimed in a serious discussion that Labour are socialist? They are just left of centre.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
You have spent the last five years claiming that Labour are socialists - and you have the cheek to call ME a troll?
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Originally Posted by Removed User wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 09:13
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:57
We've already established the SNP aren't socialist so their votes don't count towards 5his mythical socialist vote you're trying to create.
Oh dear - the truth can be inconvenient for you on times can't it.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:59
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
You're getting a bit desperate now.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 07:16
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:59
You're getting a bit desperate now.
No I'm not. You are. To even use welsh labour when we are discussing uk labour is tenuous even by your standards.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 07:15
We've already established the SNP aren't socialist so their votes don't count towards 5his mythical socialist vote you're trying to create.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:57
Oh dear - the truth can be inconvenient for you on times can't it.
Incidentally, you say the SNP are on an anti austerity ticket and as such that means the scots overwhelmingly support anti austerity (is that how you define socialism), does that mean the Welsh and English, who supported labour and conservatives respectively, overwhelmingly support further austerity as both parties are committed to a further 30bn of cuts?
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 08:07
We've already established the SNP aren't socialist so their votes don't count towards 5his mythical socialist vote you're trying to create.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 07:15
Oh dear - the truth can be inconvenient for you on times can't it.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:57
You are a troll. Everyone knows the SNP are centre left.
not sure what point you are trying to gte at here.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 08:04
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 07:16
You're getting a bit desperate now.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:59
No I'm not. You are. To even use welsh labour when we are discussing uk labour is tenuous even by your standards.
how is extraditing yourself from this thread going http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 08:04
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 07:16
You're getting a bit desperate now.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:59
No I'm not. You are. To even use welsh labour when we are discussing uk labour is tenuous even by your standards.
And you call ME a troll?
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
archie
It really is quite simple. When you quoted me earlier when I said welsh labour I was clearly referring to welsh labour in the assembly. The Welsh labour party there is very different from the UK labour party. You know that, I know that and even rhodri morgan, with his clear red water policy, knows it too.
You're arguing for the sake of it here, if you truly believe the SNP are socialist then I'm happy for you. If you truly believe welsh labour aren't independent of UK labour then I'm happy for you. Believe what you want, it's irrelevant and to be honest it's also pointless.
Have a good day.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:28
get him on the show, extended episode
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:29
We've got plenty of time to interview everyone on The CCMB Tonight Show, every Friday at 8, don't miss it!
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:38
Feedy hasn't changed a bit
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:29
get him on the show, extended episode
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:28
We've got plenty of time to interview everyone on The CCMB Tonight Show, every Friday at 8, don't miss it!
one or two candidates spring to mind
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:44
Feedy hasn't changed a bit
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:38
get him on the show, extended episode
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:29
We've got plenty of time to interview everyone on
The CCMB Tonight Show, every Friday at 8, don't miss it!
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:28
Personally I prefer the Graham Norton Show, the one where he pulls a handle and dumps the person out of their chair who's been droning on, boring the shit out of people.
MATE THAS HARSH WAT HAVE I EVR DUN 2 U
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
Soz mate, jus trying to give you some feedback on your idea
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:50
Soz mate, jus trying to give you some feedback on your idea
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:52
Soz mate, jus trying to give you some feedback on your idea
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Originally Posted by TH63 wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:50
But they're archie enemies!
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:54
Soz mate, jus trying to give you some feedback on your idea
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 09:52
drinking miller lite
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
The feedy rebrand didnt last long did it , bless him.
Tan would be proud of him.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 11:28
The feedy rebrand didnt last long did it , bless him.
What are you on about?
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
so based on those ramblings you consider both labour and the conservatives to be tories which makes it strange that nicola was trying to form an alliance at westminster with a tory party whilst driving tory scum out of scotland
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by bluebirds over....... wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 07:54
Clutching at straws much Mickey Mouse?
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:13
Socialist parties did reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllyyy well.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:11
No, one right wing party did better than two others.
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Originally Posted by Ragnar Lothbrok wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 06:03
Face it, Britain doesn't like socialism. It's vicious and ugly (a bit like yourself). Tories for another 5 years HURRAH!
On that basis there appear to be millions and millions of wannabe toffs around. Not so many working class. Either that or the working classes realised socialism is bullshit.
