Bloody terrorists

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I wouldn't waste my time. I've had actual discussions with the non close minded people in this thread.

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Ha-Ha.

"I wouldn't waste my time" means "I can't" tool.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Aah yes, that was it. So following Sidney's logic, no one from a western country should be allowed to enter Australia. Because you just don't know that those white immigrants will do the same again.

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I know you won't because it's just a standard libtard put-down, but please explain "Sidney's logic", as I don't think you have.

Nice soundbite, though.

Okay... my opinions

RIP to those who died in all attacks, may Allah grant them a place in Jannah

And these morons who did the attacks, **** them, they do not rep us

Also why should countries ban all Muslims? Why should I be punished for their actions? Other groups have done more attacks than Muslims in the Western World.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Fighting age males :hehe:

I thought the war in the Middle East was the product of zionists, surely that means the Muslims are just innocent pawns in all this? :hehe:

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:hehe

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

Ha-Ha.

"I wouldn't waste my time" means "I can't" tool.

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I've discussed it plenty in this thread. There's no hope for you, you've shown how ignorant you are and unwilling to listen to others views without resorting to insults.

Also anyone who uses phrases like "libitard" I tend to find has read so much American internet nonsense they are beyond reproach. You'd do yourself much less disservice if you tried discussing a topic properly rather than using these childish and stupid phrases.

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

Okay... my opinions

RIP to those who died in all attacks, may Allah grant them a place in Jannah

And these morons who did the attacks, **** them, they do not rep us

Also why should countries ban all Muslims? Why should I be punished for their actions? Other groups have done more attacks than Muslims in the Western World.

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Quite.


"That don't kill me can only make me stronger" Like Aids.

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

Quite.


"That don't kill me can only make me stronger" Like Aids.

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Not only does this little quip you've copied from reddit or 4chan not work here you've also butchered it with terrible grammar.

Also adz I don't think mentions of allah or any other religious stuff is sensible in a thread like this.

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

I know you won't because it's just a standard libtard put-down, but please explain "Sidney's logic", as I don't think you have.

Nice soundbite, though.

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You said you wanted to ban all Muslims (or all people from Muslim countries, it got a bit confused) from entering the west because of the appalling deeds of some, so why wouldn't you want to ban all westerners from Australia for what was done to the Aboriginals?

It seems odd that you're so against outside cultures potentially eradicating native ones when you're now living in a country that has suffered greatly and you are of that offending culture yourself. I suspect that behind the insults, you might realise you're not in the strongest position to argue the point. Unless you think it's all ok now because the West 'won'.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I've discussed it plenty in this thread. There's no hope for you, you've shown how ignorant you are and unwilling to listen to others views without resorting to insults.

Also anyone who uses phrases like "libitard" I tend to find has read so much American internet nonsense they are beyond reproach. You'd do yourself much less disservice if you tried discussing a topic properly rather than using these childish and stupid phrases.

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You know, that is an intelligent and reasoned reply from you.

I apologise for gratuitously using offensive phrases. It was uncalled-for.

So, back to the debate. Could you please elaborate in this statement ? I'm sure it's just me being obtuse, but I'd be grateful if you could help me out here. "I thought the war in the Middle East was the product of zionists, surely that means the Muslims are just innocent pawns in all this?"

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

Quite.


"That don't kill me can only make me stronger" Like Aids.

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If you know me well, you'd know that Im a hip hop fan. These are song lyrics

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Not only does this little quip you've copied from reddit or 4chan not work here you've also butchered it with terrible grammar.

Also adz I don't think mentions of allah or any other religious stuff is sensible in a thread like this.

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Why not?

As far as I am aware, "allah" is the arabic word for God.

Will you similarly be chastising Christians who are keeping the victims in their prayers?

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Originally Posted by TH63

Why not?

As far as I am aware, "allah" is the arabic word for God.

Will you similarly be chastising Christians who are keeping the victims in their prayers?

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Yes I can't stand it when religion is brought into situations like this.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Not only does this little quip you've copied from reddit or 4chan not work here you've also butchered it with terrible grammar.

Also adz I don't think mentions of allah or any other religious stuff is sensible in a thread like this.

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Sorry if your offended, I was just praying that the dead go to paradise. I dont mean to push religion

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Originally Posted by lardy

You said you wanted to ban all Muslims (or all people from Muslim countries, it got a bit confused) from entering the west because of the appalling deeds of some, so why wouldn't you want to ban all westerners from Australia for what was done to the Aboriginals?

It seems odd that you're so against outside cultures potentially eradicating native ones when you're now living in a country that has suffered greatly and you are of that offending culture yourself. I suspect that behind the insults, you might realise you're not in the strongest position to argue the point. Unless you think it's all ok now because the West 'won'.

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I DID NOT say I wanted to ban all muslims. I said allow in muslims who are professional famlies, and not immediately let in thousands of fighting-age males.

I am NOT against outside cultures (you know, this is all pointless, as we won't change each other's viewpoints and all we'll do is trade insults). As I've already mentioned, to reinforce my very point, I know what happens when an aggressive, invasive culture overtakes another, more benign, liberal culture. It ain't pretty. The aboriginals were treated as sub-human up until the 1970's - their descendants will pay the price for generations to come. A civilised, democratic, modern country would not allow that to happen. It only happens when people just close their eyes to what is happening. Remember the Nazis and the Neville Chamberlain quote: "Here is the paper that bears his name as well as mine......" Compromise seemed better than conflict.

It's all denial. It's called appeasement.

I DO realise I am not in the strongest position. I know that belittling is the only response from the liberal left (AKA the public - who are fed shit by the zionist media, and believe it).

The West is/was a considerable achievement; a democratic society that allowed women's rights, allowed people to be gay without persecution or hanging or beheading, allowed people to worship whatever their beliefs, all to be treated the same. I fail to see how regular terrorist attacks are in any way better than Western civilisation. I think women should be educated and be allowed to vote and allowed to drive. Do you ?

I am aware of what invasive species can do. Are you ?

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Not only does this little quip you've copied from reddit or 4chan not work here you've also butchered it with terrible grammar.

Also adz I don't think mentions of allah or any other religious stuff is sensible in a thread like this.

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I cut and pasted that quote from adz's page. Still critical of it now ? No ? Thought not. Innit.

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Originally Posted by TH63

Why not?

As far as I am aware, "allah" is the arabic word for God.

Will you similarly be chastising Christians who are keeping the victims in their prayers?

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That's how it works on here, if they can't silence you they will attack you instead.

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

I cut and pasted that quote from adz's page. Still critical of it now ? No ? Thought not. Innit.

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And its a song lyric, so?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

That's how it works on here, if they can't silence you they will attack you instead.

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Who's trying to silence anyone? All I said is I don't think religion and prayers have any place in this sort of discussion as it detracts from the actual discussion.

You seem awfully paranoid.

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

I DID NOT say I wanted to ban all muslims. I said allow in muslims who are professional famlies, and not immediately let in thousands of fighting-age males.

I am NOT against outside cultures (you know, this is all pointless, as we won't change each other's viewpoints and all we'll do is trade insults). As I've already mentioned, to reinforce my very point, I know what happens when an aggressive, invasive culture overtakes another, more benign, liberal culture. It ain't pretty. The aboriginals were treated as sub-human up until the 1970's - their descendants will pay the price for generations to come. A civilised, democratic, modern country would not allow that to happen. It only happens when people just close their eyes to what is happening. Remember the Nazis and the Neville Chamberlain quote: "Here is the paper that bears his name as well as mine......" Compromise seemed better than conflict.

It's all denial. It's called appeasement.

I DO realise I am not in the strongest position. I know that belittling is the only response from the liberal left (AKA the public - who are fed shit by the zionist media, and believe it).

The West is/was a considerable achievement; a democratic society that allowed women's rights, allowed people to be gay without persecution or hanging or beheading, allowed people to worship whatever their beliefs, all to be treated the same. I fail to see how regular terrorist attacks are in any way better than Western civilisation. I think women should be educated and be allowed to vote and allowed to drive. Do you ?

I am aware of what invasive species can do. Are you ?

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You have your history wrong with regards to Neville Chamberlain.
If Britain had found themselves at war with Germany at that time, we would have been destroyed. And the military advisors knew it. So while the ink was still wet on the piece of paper Chamberlain was waving he was also sanctioning a huge increase in Britain's military capabilities, without which we could not have won the war.
Unfortunately, history has not been kind to Chamberlain, as Churchill made sure he took all of the credit, and chamberlain was portrayed the way he generally is, but the delay in starting the war and subsequent rearmament are arguably more important than anything Churchill did.

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Originally Posted by Claude Blue

You seem rather confused.

Your second paragraph rightly states that the vast majority of muslims are no threat to our country but then go on to say that we should do what Trump advocates and ban any muslims from entering Britain.

The most obvious question is how do you identify who is a muslim? It's not on anyones passport so I presume you'd base it on country of origin or perhaps how they look?

To be certain then you'd have to ban people from the middle east, Africa, India, Pakistan, and so on.

Actually you'd have to ban everyone from every country on the planet to be absolutely certain that you haven't let a muslim in.

Perhaps you now see the slight flaw in your ill-thought out plan?

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Could just make them eat a bacon sandwich and drink an Irish coffee at passport control.
If they eat it they're in.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

You have your history wrong with regards to Neville Chamberlain.
If Britain had found themselves at war with Germany at that time, we would have been destroyed. And the military advisors knew it. So while the ink was still wet on the piece of paper Chamberlain was waving he was also sanctioning a huge increase in Britain's military capabilities, without which we could not have won the war.
Unfortunately, history has not been kind to Chamberlain, as Churchill made sure he took all of the credit, and chamberlain was portrayed the way he generally is, but the delay in starting the war and subsequent rearmament are arguably more important than anything Churchill did.

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This is correct

For some reason Chamberlain is always used as an example when terrorist attacks happen which shows that the people talking about how we're "appeasing terrorists" have no idea what they're on about, and are basing their argument off of assumptions

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Originally Posted by Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond

I DID NOT say I wanted to ban all muslims. I said allow in muslims who are professional famlies, and not immediately let in thousands of fighting-age males.

I am NOT against outside cultures (you know, this is all pointless, as we won't change each other's viewpoints and all we'll do is trade insults). As I've already mentioned, to reinforce my very point, I know what happens when an aggressive, invasive culture overtakes another, more benign, liberal culture. It ain't pretty. The aboriginals were treated as sub-human up until the 1970's - their descendants will pay the price for generations to come. A civilised, democratic, modern country would not allow that to happen. It only happens when people just close their eyes to what is happening. Remember the Nazis and the Neville Chamberlain quote: "Here is the paper that bears his name as well as mine......" Compromise seemed better than conflict.

It's all denial. It's called appeasement.

I DO realise I am not in the strongest position. I know that belittling is the only response from the liberal left (AKA the public - who are fed shit by the zionist media, and believe it).

The West is/was a considerable achievement; a democratic society that allowed women's rights, allowed people to be gay without persecution or hanging or beheading, allowed people to worship whatever their beliefs, all to be treated the same. I fail to see how regular terrorist attacks are in any way better than Western civilisation. I think women should be educated and be allowed to vote and allowed to drive. Do you ?

I am aware of what invasive species can do. Are you ?

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Trading insults: have I insulted you in this thread?

Ban all muslims: you said you agreed with trump and his take was certainly ban all muslims. Glad you've backed down a little on that. Of course I totally agree with proper strict border checks.

Women to be educated and drive: is this a serious question? You say you want a debate and no insults, that belittling is the only response from the left (by which I assume you mean me), and then you finish with that.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Trading insults: have I insulted you in this thread?

Ban all muslims: you said you agreed with trump and his take was certainly ban all muslims. Glad you've backed down a little on that. Of course I totally agree with proper strict border checks.

Women to be educated and drive: is this a serious question? You say you want a debate and no insults, that belittling is the only response from the left (by which I assume you mean me), and then you finish with that.

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Women to be educated and drive, umm that happens in the Muslim world. And yeah I agree, is it serious question?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

That's how it works on here, if they can't silence you they will attack you instead.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Who's trying to silence anyone? All I said is I don't think religion and prayers have any place in this sort of discussion as it detracts from the actual discussion.

You seem awfully paranoid.

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I'm not paranoid at all, I'm just saying what I see on here regularly.

I think that men should be allowed to shut the door when they go for a tinkle. Do you?

I think that children should be allowed to play in the sunshine if they feel like it. Do you?

R.I.P TO those who died today.

Very sad



Is the swear filter still off?


If it is I shall refrain from saying what I think about the cowardly scum who committed this Babaric act

RIP the victims of islam

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Originally Posted by goslow

RIP the victims of islam

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They're not the victims of Islam, they are the victims of mindless c*nts

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Originally Posted by City123

They're not the victims of Islam, they are the victims of mindless c*nts

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Exactly, the Qur'an forbids killing ppl

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

Exactly, the Qur'an forbids killing ppl

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Unless they're homosexuals,unbelievers or apostates.

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Originally Posted by City123

They're not the victims of Islam, they are the victims of mindless c*nts

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In your opinion.

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Originally Posted by goslow

Unless they're homosexuals,unbelievers or apostates.

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Okay, that isnt the case.

Lets not make this thread a debate about religion

Regarding the poster above ...... He has moved to Australia which is a compatable country to ours. He doesn't need to change his way of life/thinking. I'm not anti-migrants/refugees and I'm not 'let everyone in'. The truth of the matter is The UK is already one of the most densely populated countries in the world ... FACT. Our welfare system is milked by far too many people ... FACT.
We should accept skilled migrants and genuine refugees. Economic migrants (especially uneducated ones who would have to be 're-educated' to our 'pasty and pint' lifestyle) really should be looking to settle in countries where, at least, their culture/lifestyles are compatable. No matter how you look at it .... multi-culturalism in Europe hasn't been successful. Ethnic groups of all races etc tend to gravitate to their own, whilst the idea of housing migrants is to stick many in ghettoes .. a breeding ground for dangerous opinions to spread. Personally, I don't know what the answer is ... and if I did, there's always someone willing to argue against. All I know is ... the system is broken. All the shouting in the world from the far right, far left ... whoever ... isn't providing a solution.

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Originally Posted by CCFC_Urawa_Reds

Regarding the poster above ...... He has moved to Australia which is a compatable country to ours. He doesn't need to change his way of life/thinking.

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I think yyou might need to look up a few history books. :facepalm:

The UK is the 53rd most densely populated country in the world. Other than London there's loads of space.

I agree we need controlled immigration but the fact we have only let a small percentage of refugees in shows that we already have some controls in place.

Closing the boarders will do nothing, if anything that's what the terrorists want. Our problem, as with Belgium and France, is the brainwashing of British born Muslims.

And I just hope we are keeping a very close eye on any British citizen going to Syria and returning because in my book there is only one reason to go there.

RIP to all innocent victims.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

The UK is the 53rd most densely populated country in the world. Other than London there's loads of space.

I agree we need controlled immigration but the fact we have only let a small percentage of refugees in shows that we already have some controls in place.

Closing the boarders will do nothing, if anything that's what the terrorists want. Our problem, as with Belgium and France, is the brainwashing of British born Muslims.

And I just hope we are keeping a very close eye on any British citizen going to Syria and returning because in my book there is only one reason to go there.

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If they go to Syria then they shouldn't be allowed to return,ever.

Rest in peace all those affected, I will take a moment's silence at midday today to pay my respects.

The fact is the horrendous events that have occurred recently in Brussels and Ankara continues to snowball the debate regarding religion (Specifically Islam), refugees and migrants. My fear is the negating effect on people's attitudes towards those of different ethnicities, cultures, religions and backgrounds. Yet another reminder for people to promote Islamophobia, hopefully those more open minded will be quick to brush off claiming these attacks are a result of Islam. It's not Islam it's radicalisation and wanton destruction of innocent lives and communities.

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

Okay, that isnt the case.

Lets not make this thread a debate about religion

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Religion is part of the problem. Religious indoctrination is the reason why such terrorist groups can find recruits for suicide bombings i.e. reward in the afterlife, the concept of going to paradise etc. ETA and the IRA were both ruthless and disgusting organisations that slaughtered many innocent people but suicide bombings played no major part in their atrocities.
And we know how religion groups tends to indoctrinate its adherents that non-believers are evil/bound for hell/inferior etc - and many so-called holy books call for non-believers to be either vanquished or at least marginalised.