Dirty Ched, The Verdict.

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Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird

He's a rapist


No probably no might be

HE IS

and I've not watch THE VIDEO or been brainwashed by bullshit talk


12 members of the jury found him guilty

He lost his first Appeal

And all of a sudden new evidence has appeared 4 years later


He won't get off IMHO


Guilty as charged.

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Wow I never expected that. How long until the retrial? I can't put up with another 12 months of this :hehe:

Wonder if he'll get a club for next season now? He'll be due a lot of money in lost earnings.

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Originally Posted by Steve R

Unlucky Ched me ol' china.

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great news for him

I spent ages looking at the case last year and often posted on threads about him, i remember a few on here were just adamant that he was a rapist and that was that

The case was dodgy right from the start

Yes Ched is a wrong un, he actions were wrong, but being a wrong un is not being a rapist

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Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird

He's a rapist


No probably no might be

HE IS

and I've not watch THE VIDEO or been brainwashed by bullshit talk


12 members of the jury found him guilty

He lost his first Appeal

And all of a sudden new evidence has appeared 4 years later


He won't get off IMHO


Guilty as charged.

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:sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Bobby_The_Bhoy

:sherlock:

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I was wrong but reserve judgement untill after his retrial

Untill then he's innocent until proven guilty


Bye



Next

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Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird

I was wrong but reserve judgement untill after his retrial

Untill then he's innocent until proven guilty


Bye



Next

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you felt you could condemn him without doing any research on the matter

a good job people are slightly more open minded eh :wave:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

great news for him

I spent ages looking at the case last year and often posted on threads about him, i remember a few on here were just adamant that he was a rapist and that was that

The case was dodgy right from the start

Yes Ched is a wrong un, he actions were wrong, but being a wrong un is not being a rapist

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Good summary tbf

Ched is innocent ! He's not a rapist

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Originally Posted by blue matt

you felt you could condemn him without doing any research on the matter

a good job people are slightly more open minded eh :wave:

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He's still a **** though ain't he

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Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird

He's still a **** though ain't he

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But not a rapist it seems.

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Originally Posted by tigerbaybluebird

He's still a **** though ain't he

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agree'ed. he has no ( or little ) Morals, yet that doesnt make him a rapist

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Originally Posted by blue matt

agree'ed. he has no ( or little ) Morals, yet that doesnt make him a rapist

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Just searched ccmb and you've used this about half a dozen times. Is this really how you think it is spelled? :hehe:

This looks like a bit of 'Vetelism' to me, as in "I'm shouting at you so no one looks at what I did (said)" :hehe:

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Originally Posted by lardy

Just searched ccmb and you've used this about half a dozen times. Is this really how you think it is spelled? :hehe:

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So you have picked me up on the spelling of agreed ( which stems from a old joke ) , but well done anyway

yet you feel Ched " hasn't yet been found innocent " :hehe:

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Originally Posted by lardy

Anyway, I'll make my point for the last time. He hasn't yet been found innocent; from what the appeal court said, there will be a retrial (although if what others have said is true then there may not be. I don't know).

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:hehe::hehe::hehe:

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Originally Posted by blue sky

Here's the appeal court transcript of the original trial:

https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-...-chedwyn-evans

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That's not a transcript.

It's a summary of the reasons for the Court of Appeal refusing his first appeal. Their own version is available elsewhere on crimeline.info, I think.

I'd love to see a transcript of the original trial, but for some reason - probably because of the amount of incriminating evidence from his own mouth - the Ched Evans website has never published the one his legal team doubtless have.

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Originally Posted by blue matt

BUT

she cannot remember any of it happening, so she cannot remember consenting or not

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Quite - she was so drunk, she didn't wake up when she pissed herself later that night. Evans should have known that she was extremely drunk: the only contact he'd had with her outside the room was when he stepped over her, literally falling down drunk, earlier.

It also gives the lie to the idea that she made a complaint to make money. No, she didn't know where her handbag was and thought it had been stolen. In fact, she'd left it in the kebab shop around 3am. Just how drunk does a woman have to be to not know where her handbag is?

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Yes Ched is a wrong un, but how many other blokes would have been tempted to " have a go " with her if she was encouraging it ? ? ?

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Where's the evidence that she was encouraging it?

He says she was "repeatedly" "calling out" "**** me harder", but MacDonald doesn't say he heard that before he left the room. Evans' brother and the mate outside trying to film it all didn't give evidence that they could hear that (and they could be heard giggling from inside the room, so would clearly be able to hear someone "calling out" inside it). The night porter who could hear that sex was happening in the room couldn't hear that.

So of the four people in a position to hear all this claimed encouragement, none could. Hmm...

SuperIan,
6 posts all about Ched in two different threads.
You don't work for the CPS do you?

Of maybe the north Wales Police??? :shrug:

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Originally Posted by My Name is Dave.

SuperIan,
6 posts all about Ched in two different threads.
You don't work for the CPS do you?

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

Of maybe the north Wales Police??? :shrug:

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Or the girls family member !?

Only just registered as well (iffy smiley)

No, I was looking for something else (what to do about the problem of some foreign owner who wants to tear up the history of the club) and found the bullshit about how Evan's original trial was a complete stitch up first.

Despite the best efforts of his family, I've no idea who she is, but it's a case that makes me see red (for the right reasons, rather than an idiot deciding he prefers it to blue).

You do realise we play in blue again

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Originally Posted by superian

No, I was looking for something else (what to do about the problem of some foreign owner who wants to tear up the history of the club) and found the bullshit about how Evan's original trial was a complete stitch up first.

Despite the best efforts of his family, I've no idea who she is, but it's a case that makes me see red (for the right reasons, rather than an idiot deciding he prefers it to blue).

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So are you saying that because he was brought to trial he must be guilty? Or do you know something that no one else knows, including the police the CPS the judiciary and everyone else?
There has to be a reason you are on here purely to keep talking about this man. so tell us what it is.

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Originally Posted by jamieccfc

You do realise we play in blue again

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I know! It's the 'how' that happened that I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

So are you saying that because he was brought to trial he must be guilty?

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No, but unlike some of the 'he's innocent' lot, I can see why he was convicted in the original trial. Unanimously. By the same jury that acquitted MacDonald, again unanimously. I can see why they did that too.

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There has to be a reason you are on here purely to keep talking about this man. so tell us what it is.

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I think the original verdicts were right and I'm annoyed with people spouting rubbish about why he shouldn't have been convicted in the first place.

I'd love to know what the evidence that's got him a retrial is. It will have to be pretty damn devastating to provide him with a reasonable belief in her consent given what he said in the first one...

... but I actually came here to find out how you get an owner to change their mind. This is a distraction, albeit one I'm passionate about too.