Booing - "God save the Queen"

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Originally Posted by DP1

I am not great fan of the Italians after what the Romans did to my family in AD42 will never forgive them being a true Celt:facepalm:

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Yeh, but it doesn't mention that knob Claudius.

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Originally Posted by City123

So you're denying these things happened?

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Welsh speakers being more patriotic than non-Welsh speakers.It's utter nonsense.

Regarding the history you refer to-get over it .Many bad things have happened in history but why continue to bleat about it and carry a chip on your shoulder. Surely your not saying we are squeaky clean when it comes historical events.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Yeh, but it doesn't mention that knob Claudius.

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He got his own TV programme though

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Welsh speakers being more patriotic than non-Welsh speakers.It's utter nonsense.

Regarding the history you refer to-get over it .Many bad things have happened in history but why continue to bleat about it and carry a chip on your shoulder. Surely your not saying we are squeaky clean when it comes historical events.

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oje of the worst replies I've read regarding the subject. Don't worry about the atrocities, just get over em. Pathetic response.

What's an oje? You can't worry about history you can learn from it.Think about it before making silly remarks.

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Originally Posted by herberthuw

And I bet they turned up to support when times were not great . There support is unbelievable , especially away form home even in mindless friendlies , in faraway countries, didn't we give up the Millennium because of poor attendances and leaner times and hating all this west of us ?

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I can't imagine why or how England might muster up more support than Wales......... :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

What's an oje? You can't worry about history you can learn from it.Think about it before making silly remarks.

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Let's take an extreme scenario. If someone killed your father, and then said ah well forget about it. Would you?

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Originally Posted by tommy31

Let's take an extreme scenario. If someone killed your father, and then said ah well forget about it. Would you?

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I'd definitely boo him.

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

I'd definitely boo him.

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by tommy31

oje of the worst replies I've read regarding the subject. Don't worry about the atrocities, just get over em. Pathetic response.

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What atrocities have the English commited in Wales?

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

I can't imagine why or how England might muster up more support than Wales......... :facepalm:

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Been scratching my head on this one too..........:hehe:

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Originally Posted by goslow

What atrocities have the English commited in Wales?

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I was so tempted to ask - thanks

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

Do they really? As a Welsh person you'd think I would have been informed of this sooner.

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he has a point I do know folk in that category, i used to argue with them and say just be proud of your team achievements , you simply let yourself down by the hatred and jealousy of other teams. Rugby is by far the worse for this pathetic behavior.

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Originally Posted by TruBlue

I'd definitely boo him.

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Welsh speakers being more patriotic than non-Welsh speakers.It's utter nonsense.

Regarding the history you refer to-get over it .Many bad things have happened in history but why continue to bleat about it and carry a chip on your shoulder. Surely your not saying we are squeaky clean when it comes historical events.

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"Welsh-speakers tend to be more nationalistic"

Nowehere did I say they were more patriotic, nationalistic and patriotic mean different things

Here's a summary I found
"Nationalism means to give more importance to unity by way of a cultural background, including language and heritage. Patriotism pertains to the love for a nation, with more emphasis on values and beliefs."

I was giving genuine reasons for the booing of God Save the Queen there are other reasons as well but the other ones are more broad I feel (Republicanism being the main one) so I tried giving reasons as to way Welsh people in particular would boo God Save the Queen, I think they are valid reasons for booing the British anthem

Although they could have just been booing because of how bad the tune is :hehe:

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Originally Posted by DP1

I am not great fan of the Italians after what the Romans did to my family in AD42 will never forgive them being a true Celt:facepalm:

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And you shouldn't! :hehe:

In all seriousness though 42 v 20th century? I know the stuff I mentioned happened in the past but not in Biblical times!

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Originally Posted by goslow

What atrocities have the English commited in Wales?

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Personally id say implementing the welsh not was an atrocity, as was drowning tryweryn. Id even go as far to say England still controlling wales today is an atrocity.

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Originally Posted by tommy31

Personally id say implementing the welsh not was an atrocity, as was drowning tryweryn. Id even go as far to say England still controlling wales today is an atrocity.

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It's bad enough the idiots in London running us, the last thing we want is those wanna-be's down the Bay with their finger on the button.

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Originally Posted by tommy31

Personally id say implementing the welsh not was an atrocity, as was drowning tryweryn. Id even go as far to say England still controlling wales today is an atrocity.

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Perhaps as a Welsh speaker you should stick to the Welsh Message Board because the above makes little sense at all.

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Perhaps as a Welsh speaker you should stick to the Welsh Message Board because the above makes little sense at all.

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I'm sure you get the point ��

Germans booing God Save the Queen, are you going to make a topic on that?

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Originally Posted by City123

Germans booing God Save the Queen, are you going to make a topic on that?

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She's one of their own. :wave:

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Originally Posted by Baloo

She's one of their own. :wave:

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:hehe:

Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg-Gotha? I would never guessed

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Originally Posted by Baloo

She's one of their own. :wave:

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It's because Germans measure their german-ness by hatred of the english. Duh

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Originally Posted by tommy31

Personally id say implementing the welsh not was an atrocity, as was drowning tryweryn. Id even go as far to say England still controlling wales today is an atrocity.

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Then personally I'd say you're a twat

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Originally Posted by tommy31

I'm sure you get the point ��

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Not really no-write it in Welsh and I will have it translated by my grandson.
He can spot an insular wriggler a mile off.

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Not really no-write it in Welsh and I will have it translated by my grandson.
He can spot an insular wriggler a mile off.

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You all for Europe then Den?

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Not really no-write it in Welsh and I will have it translated by my grandson.
He can spot an insular wriggler a mile off.

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An insular wriggler?

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Not really no-write it in Welsh and I will have it translated by my grandson.
He can spot an insular wriggler a mile off.

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If you didn't understand the point, id question your English abilities.

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Originally Posted by goslow

Then personally I'd say you're a twat

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You are entitled to your opinion. Could i ask why you think that?

i dont and wont sing it. i dont like it. it represents something forced upon me that i dont want

**** it

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Originally Posted by bluesinceuwer2m8

i dont and wont sing it. i dont like it. it represents something forced upon me that i dont want

**** it

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Many of you ae missing the point - I was merely stating that we should Respect any anthem, not asking you to sing it:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by DP1

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Many of you ae missing the point - I was merely stating that we should Respect any anthem, not asking you to sing it:facepalm:

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DPI, it's hard work on here sometimes!

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Originally Posted by tommy31

If you didn't understand the point, id question your English abilities.



You are entitled to your opinion. Could i ask why you think that?

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Really-perhaps you know what you mean to say but clearly don't have the ability to write it.

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Originally Posted by Blue Tone

DPI, it's hard work on here sometimes!

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:biggrin:

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Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN

Really-perhaps you know what you mean to say but clearly don't have the ability to write it.

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Stop being a dick, you know what he meant

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Originally Posted by City123

Stop being a dick, you know what he meant

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its funny. clearly he has nothing to reply to the message, and so attacks my ability in my third language. lovely

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Originally Posted by DP1

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Many of you ae missing the point - I was merely stating that we should Respect any anthem, not asking you to sing it:facepalm:

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if something was forced upon you do you embrace it?

i bet youve****ing slagged off work tax in the past. idiot

I despise those who are handed wealth and power without working for it. I'm also a huge atheist.

Fairly simple why I boo it, and will continue to do so with passion.

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Originally Posted by bluesinceuwer2m8

if something was forced upon you do you embrace it?

i bet youve****ing slagged off work tax in the past. idiot

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Can you reply using English as I have no idea what you are trying to say?

I have never booed GSTQ, but I never sing it and I refuse to stand up for it when it's played.

That has been difficult in some places where I have been alone or one of only a handful of people not to conform - including the Sheffield Arena for a Steelers v Devils match where 2,000+ were doing the whole imported American razzmatazz thing at the start (including all standing up for GSTQ before the teams came on the ice) and some concerts (e.g. Bridgewater Hall in Manchester where my cousin's lad was part of a Welsh youth orchestra and the evening started with GSTQ and the whole audience - bar 2 of us - stood and sang).

I have never been back to the ice hockey because i don't want to repeat the experience (and some intimidation) of that first time.

However it is getting a bit easier for atheist republicans - the weight of conformity (especially around God and Queen) has eased since I walked out of church (Congregationalist) and the boy scouts aged 12!