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Charlie
Probably a few M.Mouse's on there.
If so i'll bet blue matt will have a knock on his door.
If anything, he would sign it as Mr Burrito from Zimbabwe
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Pearcey3
It's scary that even now some people don't even realise that every vote counted. Gofer Blue where the hell have you been?
Pearcey3: Sorry, of course I knew that! I suppose I was just putting things into perspective in my own locality i.e. that I was not in a minority "round by 'ere". It was strange watching the results come in through the early hours of Friday as I had to keep reminding myself that it was the total number of votes that mattered, not the number of districts that kept turning blue on Jeremy Vines famous charts. I was nervous that the big city votes could skew the whole thing but as it turned out these were insufficient to do that.
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7 in 10 labour voters went for brexit :facepalm:
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
7 in 10 labour voters went for brexit :facepalm:
Dear God. It shows how weak Labour are at the moment.
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
7 in 10 labour voters went for brexit :facepalm:
Is that true?
John McDonnell has been saying this morning that 7 out of 10 Labour voters backed remain.
I don't know if that is true either (doubt it) but in any case how can anyone know.
If the pre-vote opinion polls are the source of these claims they are almost certainly wrong.
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jon1959
Is that true?
John McDonnell has been saying this morning that 7 out of 10 Labour voters backed remain.
I don't know if that is true either (doubt it) but in any case how can anyone know.
If the pre-vote opinion polls are the source of these claims they are almost certainly wrong.
I couldn't verify it, passed over my screen watching the BBC news whilst having din dins
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I don think it can be true. Given all the support UKIP have these days and that around half of Tories voted for exit. I suspect 7 in 10 voted to stay in but turnout was down. Having said that 7 in 10 of Labour voters in Sunderland and Hartlepool probably did vote for Brexit.
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http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06...voted-and-why/
Here's the breakdown for the largest parties. I stress this is an opinion poll as there's no record of how various party supporters actually voted of course.
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Up to 3.27 million now, pretty crazy
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https://www.change.org/p/david-camer...fb_ref=Default
Here's a petition that has a better chance of being recognised. When there is such a reliance on slogans over policies we should make sure that those slogans are based in fact.
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Eric The Blue
I find some of the party breakdowns very hard to believe in that.
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goslow
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In healthcare the most common way of making decisions is to use what's called a "QALY". It stands for "Quality Adjusted Life Index/Years". Suppose two candidates are available for a liver transplant: an 8 year old and a 68 year old. Further assume both will drop dead at 80. The QALY for the two candidates would be heavily weighted in favour of the 8 year old because they have potentially 72 years of life to live post transplant. I'm sure you get it. Now look at the Ashcroft poll. The majority of under 44 year olds voted for Remain and they would have more weight in a "RALY" (Referendum Adjusted Life Index/Years). What do you think? I'm sure you'll think OMOV is the way but the RALY seems way fairer to me.
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Ainsley Harriott
How many referenda would it take before we got to a 60-40 split? We'd be voting forever!!
Maybe we can do the same if Wales draw and we wanted a win.What a load of bollocks
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az city
In healthcare the most common way of making decisions is to use what's called a "QALY". It stands for "Quality Adjusted Life Index/Years". Suppose two candidates are available for a liver transplant: an 8 year old and a 68 year old. Further assume both will drop dead at 80. The QALY for the two candidates would be heavily weighted in favour of the 8 year old because they have potentially 72 years of life to live post transplant. I'm sure you get it. Now look at the Ashcroft poll. The majority of under 44 year olds voted for Remain and they would have more weight in a "RALY" (Referendum Adjusted Life Index/Years). What do you think? I'm sure you'll think OMOV is the way but the RALY seems way fairer to me.
My sister in law is currently recovering from a double transplant, liver and kidney, the Liver she received was split, a piece for her , she is above 60 but below 70, the other piece was given to a young child, i'm not disputing any stats or figures just saying what happened in her case, obviously we do not know how the child is doing, but my sister in law's body has coped with the liver but has struggled with the kidney.
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
Up to 3.27 million now, pretty crazy
Apparently the petition has been hijacked by people overseas
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
My sister in law is currently recovering from a double transplant, liver and kidney, the Liver she received was split, a piece for her , she is above 60 but below 70, the other piece was given to a young child, i'm not disputing any stats or figures just saying what happened in her case, obviously we do not know how the child is doing, but my sister in law's body has coped with the liver but has struggled with the kidney.
Hope she does well.
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
Up to 3.27 million now, pretty crazy
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Originally Posted by
Llanedeyrnblue
Apparently the petition has been hijacked by people overseas
Apparently the petition has been hijacked by Remain supporters!
Outrageous way to treat a sensible petition set up a month ago (by a pro-Leave member of the English Democrats) at a time when it looked as if Remain would win. Clearly if the polls were right and remain won with a vote in the low 50%s it would be too close to be a proper mandate and a second referendum would be needed. Who could argue with that? Any objection to that must be, as Goslow keeps posting, SOUR GRAPES.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/cr...aigner-2016-6?
You couldn't make this stuff up!
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jon1959
Apparently the petition has been hijacked by Remain supporters!
Outrageous way to treat a sensible petition set up a month ago (by a pro-Leave member of the English Democrats) at a time when it looked as if Remain would win. Clearly if the polls were right and remain won with a vote in the low 50%s it would be too close to be a proper mandate and a second referendum would be needed. Who could argue with that? Any objection to that must be, as Goslow keeps posting, SOUR GRAPES.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/cr...aigner-2016-6?
You couldn't make this stuff up!
Wow!
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surge
We really really need that. The number of obvious lies from both sides was insulting to the electorate.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Apparently the petition has been hijacked by Remain supporters!
Outrageous way to treat a sensible petition set up a month ago (by a pro-Leave member of the English Democrats) at a time when it looked as if Remain would win. Clearly if the polls were right and remain won with a vote in the low 50%s it would be too close to be a proper mandate and a second referendum would be needed. Who could argue with that? Any objection to that must be, as Goslow keeps posting, SOUR GRAPES.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/cr...aigner-2016-6?
You couldn't make this stuff up!
The guy's a hypocrite...
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ninianclark
The problem with all this is that the Status Quo was not an option.
So who is it that sets the policy that says the EU must or will take in new countries ?
If the EU would stop its expansion of yet more 'crappy' members, would stop the continued march towards a more federal Europe - then the EU would not have a any problems - from any member countries. But I guess they are determined to carry on regardless of what anyone thinks.
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Pearcey3
This is a valid point. The EU has gone too far in expanding the countries becoming new members.
Exactly, it's like you having a "bring your own booze party", lots of friends/family will turn up with quality wine/ale/cider/shorts etc,etc,etc.
Then you get the 8 arseholes who turn up pi$$ed, with 8 cans of Fosters, which the pinched from the garage shop on the corner and then they proceed to guzzle every drop of booze in the house.
If you can't afford the party, DON'T JOIN IN. !
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BLUETIT
Exactly, it's like you having a "bring your own booze party", lots of friends/family will turn up with quality wine/ale/cider/shorts etc,etc,etc.
Then you get the 8 arseholes who turn up pi$$ed, with 8 cans of Fosters, which the pinched from the garage shop on the corner and then they proceed to guzzle every drop of booze in the house.
If you can't afford the party, DON'T JOIN IN. !
What if they turn up with good quality gear though?
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BLUETIT
Exactly, it's like you having a "bring your own booze party", lots of friends/family will turn up with quality wine/ale/cider/shorts etc,etc,etc.
Then you get the 8 arseholes who turn up pi$$ed, with 8 cans of Fosters, which the pinched from the garage shop on the corner and then they proceed to guzzle every drop of booze in the house.
If you can't afford the party, DON'T JOIN IN. !
Attachment 516
:hehe: :ayatollah:
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Badly Ironed Shirt
We really really need that. The number of obvious lies from both sides was insulting to the electorate.
Hardly insulting, 52% of the population bought it all.
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ninianclark
The problem with all this is that the Status Quo was not an option.
So who is it that sets the policy that says the EU must or will take in new countries ?
If the EU would stop its expansion of yet more 'crappy' members, would stop the continued march towards a more federal Europe - then the EU would not have a any problems - from any member countries. But I guess they are determined to carry on regardless of what anyone thinks.
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Pearcey3
This is a valid point. The EU has gone too far in expanding the countries becoming new members.
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tommy31
Hardly insulting, 52% of the population bought it all.
With 48 buying the leftovers. :hehe:
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I'm just going to leave this here
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As soon as I heard Cameron say they could only start negotiations to leave with 'full engagement' of Scotland, Wales,& Northern Ireland I had a feeling that we wouldn't be leaving the EU, this could drag on for a long while yet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...f-english-fur/
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Mrs Steve R
As soon as I heard Cameron say they could only start negotiations to leave with 'full engagement' of Scotland, Wales,& Northern Ireland I had a feeling that we wouldn't be leaving the EU, this could drag on for a long while yet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...f-english-fur/
Who woke you up. :hehe::hehe:
Welcome to the party. :thumbup:
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Kiffa
The Netherlands also voted against further association between the EU and the Ukraine (including visa-free travel) in April. 61% of voters were against it.
The EU are set to go forward with pretty much all of it anyway.
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Ainsley Harriott
The Netherlands also voted against further association between the EU and the Ukraine (including visa-free travel) in April. 61% of voters were against it.
The EU are set to go forward with pretty much all of it anyway.
Just like the Remainers, the EU are undemocratic :thumbup:
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Have the BBC and the rest of the MSM media apologized yet?
