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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
You obviously are.
Why, may I ask?
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No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
You obviously are.
Why, may I ask?
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A good read and it is the way forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Why? I said why in the post you responded to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
Oh only a load of people severely injured then why even report it?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
You said killed. You may wish to familiarise with the rules pertaining to sub judice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
You may wish to familiarise yourself with intent - "I want to kill all muslims"Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I think we have to be careful about how we react to disturbing incidents like this in the first few days. If we suspect it's terrorism then we should call it potential terrorism until it's confirmed/near enough confirmed, people should not rush to comparing to other incidents, even positive reactions such as multiple faiths coming together shouldn't be so ingrained that we eagerly wait for that positive display. We have time to quietly remember, stand together and mourn, and to investigate what is going on, but we do not need nessarily to rush into it. If we become too attached to our first opinion then we may fool ourselves out of a more informed opinion which develops later.
The Inman that stopped the crowd seeking retribution and ensured that the police were called to deal with the man showed immense bravery and character.
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Originally Posted by surge
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/19/finsbu...borne-6720145/
Dave Ashford, 52, said: ‘Someone called me and said it was him and I said ‘It can’t be’. Then I saw the picture on the news and said ‘S***, it’s him’.’
Another neighbour said: ‘He had lived on the estate for a few years. He’s always been a complete c*** but this is really surprising.’
It made me laugh anyway😂
Yes, really funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
Come on that second quote is definitely funny. Yes the act was horrendous but if you don't find that quote funny because it's so out of place you must be desperate to be offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
Other things I find funny is the bloke who pretended to be his wife on here in an attempt to gain sympathy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
What happened to that narcissistic knob? Any ideas?
None whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
But it made me laugh.
Is this idiot a City fan too? It wasn't so long ago that it was a standing joke on this forum that whatever went wrong it must be down to a City fan. Sadly this is deadly serious stuff with the potential for retaliatory action which would be very sad, in what must be one of the oldest cosmopolitan cities in the U.K.
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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
you might have missed the news, IS have " beef " with us in the west
anyways, can you have retaliatory action on retaliatory action ? ? ?
I mean retaliatory action specifically in Cardiff, not just in the "west". And to your second point - yes you certainly can. I remember the "troubles" in N.I.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Are you asking if you can retaliate to someone retaliating? 🙈Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Did the someone you know say he lived in Pentwyn.?Unsubstantiated throw away comments like 'from the Rhondda' add so much to the truth!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
I said I can't guarantee it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRUMPYS DEN
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Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
but at what point does the attacks stop being retaliation ? ?? and become something elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
As the old saying goes -Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Lecter
"Empty vessels make the most noise"
I don't think you know what retaliation meansQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
You're a callous c u n t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I used to enjoy Organ's descriptions of his encounters with sludge. Back when they used to be funny anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17
But lately I've noticed his posts have become more and more unpleasant.
There's a school of thought that we should be mocking the idiots who commit these heinous crimes more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Too often they are presented as criminal masterminds or figures of hate, which when viewed by someone with a different viewpoint becomes a heroic figure.
In reality most of these terrorists are tragic idiots, who end up ruining their own lives and their families as well as their victims.
They are idiots, losers, and we should be calling them that.
In the UK, white supremacist attacks are prevented by police more often than Isis attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
Let's be honest, the reason there is more hatred towards Muslims than there was towards Catholics when the IRA were bombing us left right and centre is racism. Pure and simple.
How would you explain why there's more hatred towards Muslims than Catholics other than skin colour?Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
When I heard City fans shouting racist abuse for the first time I felt shocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
When I heard the Brexit vote come through and the vote from Wales specifically I felt gutted.
When you hear that someone has attacked innocent people and that he is potentially from the valleys and that it's going to make world news I despaired.
I am slightly relieved that the guy turned out to be from elsewhere but I still feel our name has been dragged through the dirt, which is a shame.
I also believe these feelings are echoed among Muslims when their community is made out to be small-minded, violent and prejudiced as a result of the actions of a minority.
Who wants to be associated with these kinds of ****-wits after all.
Why does it matter if it's the dictionary definiton of racism? It's an attack based on prejudice so there's no difference anyway.
Presume he had some sort of breakdown because he's white. Whatever you think the far right papers would have helped with radicalise him even if a breakdown was the driving factor he still needed to be pushed in that direction.
Tommy Robinson,Farage,Katie Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninianclark
All hate preachers in their own way, add in the Mail and the Sun and you have a nice melting pot of hate being spewed.
There isn't. If there was, there would have been more incidents like yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Hatred can be expressed in different and less extreme ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Are you or Eric telling me that there is a hatred of Muslims in this country? There simply isn't. There have always been far right groups in Britain, but they have always been a very small voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
We are an an extremely tolerant nation, and the vast majority of white/Christian people here realise that painting all muslims with the same brush is just plain daft.
Muslims aren't universally hated full stop, of course. Most people are generally fine with other types of people.
Is there more ill feeling towards Muslims than Catholics? I think you'd have to be living under a rock to answer no.
Or living in Wales. Try asking your question up in Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I don't know Scotland so well, perhaps you could find some Scottish newspaper front pages that are negative about Catholics and I'll find some UK ones about Muslims. We'll see which is more common.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
What has newspaper headlines got to do with it? You don't believe in all that pish do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
If you do, go back to the archives and look at some of the front pages when the IRA were active in Britain.
If you want to see real hatred, get yourself up to an old firm game.