Chris Coleman resigns as Wales manager to take over Sunderland

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Nonsense. West Ham and Everton have both lost their managers since we were knocked out. Watford, Burnley, Swansea and WBA could soon be looking for a new manager. If he was that much in demand he wouldn’t be taking a club in free fall to league 1, who haven’t got a pot to piss in. The Villa job it isn’t.

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I think he’s just taken the first chance that’s been presented to him. Would one of those clubs have approached him? Possibly but then again they may well have overlooked him. I’m guessing that he wasn’t too confident of job offers from better clubs than Sunderland or else he would probably have bided his time.

The other side is that if he does manage to turn Sunderland’s fortunes around, his reputation will be greatly improved and there’s a good chance that a bigger club will come in for him once he’s proved he can do a job at club level.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Osian Roberts , continuity

He's behind much of the success anyway

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I would imagine Osian will be on his way to Sunderland too. No?

Not Giggsy. If we going non welsh then who has been through the Newport badge scheme. I would like Karl Robinson. Proven record with young players.

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

No - coaches rarely do well when they step up to become the manager.

Here's a name, though - Mark Bowen.

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Bowen's never managed*, been nothing but a foil to Hughes.

* Ok, 1 game caretaker manager for QPR. Which they lost.

Carl Robinson for me, but I don't think he will get it

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Originally Posted by Tandy

The 85 clubs who have a lower attendance.
Are you always this stupid or have you had a bump?

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Do you believe a club's stature is based on their attendance?

That dutch Ray fella ?

I have the answer.

Danny Gabbidon and Scott Young. Welsh. Young. Experience of managing at club level.

The dream ticket. Qatar, here we come.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Nonsense. West Ham and Everton have both lost their managers since we were knocked out. Watford, Burnley, Swansea and WBA could soon be looking for a new manager. If he was that much in demand he wouldn’t be taking a club in free fall to league 1, who haven’t got a pot to piss in. The Villa job it isn’t.

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You have you’re opinion and appear to be in the know on managerial appointments, I’ll bow to your superior knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

I have the answer.

Danny Gabbidon and Scott Young. Welsh. Young. Experience of managing at club level.

The dream ticket. Qatar, here we come.

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:hehe::hehe::hehe:

I'd imagine it'll be a case of the FAW looking at former players, following on from the success of Speed and Coleman.

Don't see it being Giggs - would want too much money.

Carl Robinson is a good shout, only knock would be his managerial experience has been MLS not Britain. Bit jump from Vancouver to managing Wales.

Lenny ashurst bushey eyebrows

Ron Atkinson

Russell Slade just to see people explode.

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Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life

Russell Slade just to see people explode.

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Trollope - another ex Welsh-international.

Trollope with Gabbidon and Young.

Ashley Williams player manager

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Originally Posted by jeepster

What do attendances have to do with how big the club is,why do you have to give insults,do you have a problem at home:thumbup:

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I'd argue that attendances are the ONLY thing that make a big club, you can be a big club without being successful, you can be successful without bing a big club. Leicester won the league and played in the Champions League. It may have made them famous briefly, but it hasn't made them a bigger club.

Who's the bigger club? Last place in the Championship Sunderland? Or 7th in the Premier League Burnley? Sunderland are a bigger club than half of the Premier League IMO.

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Originally Posted by TH63

Ashley Williams player manager

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Troll level : Expert

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'd argue that attendances are the ONLY thing that make a big club, you can be a big club without being successful, you can be successful without bing a big club. Leicester won the league and played in the Champions League. It may have made them famous briefly, but it hasn't made them a bigger club.

Who's the bigger club? Last place in the Championship Sunderland? Or 7th in the Premier League Burnley? Sunderland are a bigger club than half of the Premier League IMO.

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Surely it is based on results.:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

You have you’re opinion and appear to be in the know on managerial appointments, I’ll bow to your superior knowledge.

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You may stand up now

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

It's all a grand plan.

Coleman goes there on a nice little contract, they get relegated, pay him off millions when they sack him, then he comes back next August for the EURO qualifiers.

Simples.

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Bellamy and dutch ray as a duo

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Originally Posted by chris lee

Bellamy and dutch ray as a duo

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I would like that:wales:

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Originally Posted by chris lee

Bellamy and dutch ray as a duo

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:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:

..wait you're being serious aren't you...

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Originally Posted by emjayblue

Rumours were correct then.

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"shes a witch" :hehe:

How so? If you beat another club does that make you bigger than them? If you win more games over a season are you bigger than all the clubs beneath you?

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Surely it is based on results.

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How so? If you beat another club does that make you bigger than them? If you win more games over a season are you bigger than all the clubs beneath you?

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'd argue that attendances are the ONLY thing that make a big club, you can be a big club without being successful, you can be successful without bing a big club. Leicester won the league and played in the Champions League. It may have made them famous briefly, but it hasn't made them a bigger club.

Who's the bigger club? Last place in the Championship Sunderland? Or 7th in the Premier League Burnley? Sunderland are a bigger club than half of the Premier League IMO.

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I guess we all have our own definition of what makes a club bigger. I'd probably argue that at present Burnley are a bigger club than Sunderland. Would you describe Leeds as a big club? They haven't seen the top flight for 14 seasons, have spent more time over the last 40 years outside the top division than in it and, prior an 18 year run in the top division in the 60s and 70s, again were outside the top flight more than they were in it. Some people seem to regard Nottingham Forest as a big club, yet they've not been in the top division for 20 years now.

Conversely, Chelsea were a yo-yo team between the top two tiers for decades. Historically they can hardly be described as a big club, yet their last 20 years have been, by a significant margin, their most successful and I doubt many would say they're not a big club.

Big clubs with little recent success are Newcastle , Sunderland , Everton , Leeds , Pompey , west ham , spurs , etc

Potentially we could be a big club with little success but we are no bigger than Coventry , Blackburn rovers , Bolton etc

Define success though Sludge - I'd suggest Spurs have been successful without winning trophies.

This move (if confirmed) looks bad for Coleman and for Wales - and unlikely to transform Sunderland. Depressing on so many levels!

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'd argue that attendances are the ONLY thing that make a big club, you can be a big club without being successful, you can be successful without bing a big club. Leicester won the league and played in the Champions League. It may have made them famous briefly, but it hasn't made them a bigger club.

Who's the bigger club? Last place in the Championship Sunderland? Or 7th in the Premier League Burnley? Sunderland are a bigger club than half of the Premier League IMO.

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How does Sunderland's turnover compare with Burnley?

Coleman will always be remembered for the glory of Euro 2016 I wish him well

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

To be fair, his club record isn’t that great.
Did nothing at Fulham, Real Sociedad or Coventry.

Think he only got the Wales job as we needed someone to take over from Gary Speed and he seemed the best person to do so.

Can’t blame him for taking the money.

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Read fulham finished 9th? Ive not checked where they were the season before because I'm tucked into tomorrow's breakfast Chinese as I type so prioritised that..off memory I think they finished about 6th one year didn't they? Maybe 9th wasn't good enough.

As can't edit previous post..c+p job...

Edit..

02/3 Jean Tigiana/Coleman 14th..
3/4 Coleman 9th
4/5 Coleman 13th
5/6 Coleman 12th
6/7 Coleman/Lawrie Sanchez 16th
7/8 Sanchez/Woy 17th

FAW bunch of muppets since I can remember and nothing has changed or will change any time soon.

The king is dead... long live the king

I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing a slightly different direction being taken with maybe a manager who can improve our attacking a bit more. Hopefully there'll be continuity, but what about Ryan Gi- uh, oh. Never mind.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Coleman will always be remembered for the glory of Euro 2016 I wish him well

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Yep

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Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life

Define success though Sludge - I'd suggest Spurs have been successful without winning trophies.

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Fair point although they have won the fa cup and Carling cup in recent seasons

Don't like them as a club mind , them , arsenal , Everton , united and Liverpool were responsible for the greed of the premier league , I want those teams to lose every game they ever play

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Originally Posted by Baloo

How does Sunderland's turnover compare with Burnley?

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Since the premier league came in its a difficult arguement , the greedy bunch make very little from gate money compared to the TV deals

It's why clubs outside the top six will do anything to stay up or try to get back up as soon as possible , it's great to see the likes of Burnley up there pissing off the big boys although of course historically Burnley were a big club

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I'd argue that attendances are the ONLY thing that make a big club, you can be a big club without being successful, you can be successful without bing a big club. Leicester won the league and played in the Champions League. It may have made them famous briefly, but it hasn't made them a bigger club.

Who's the bigger club? Last place in the Championship Sunderland? Or 7th in the Premier League Burnley? Sunderland are a bigger club than half of the Premier League IMO.

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Sunderland obviously although the drop off in their home support is very noticeable when they drop out of the greedy league

Not as big a club as Newcastle but a very big club