Woman Commentator

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

:hehe: That's equality my dear, there have been plenty of threads on here over the years saying men are crap at things, you didn't see me or Auntie Andy complaining did you?

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Were they about a man who had been invited into a predominantly female environment?

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Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays

Were they about a man who had been invited into a predominantly female environment?

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That was a joke really but I'm sure there are many men who have to work in predominantly female environments, as a woman who has been involved in the predominantly male environment of djing for over ten years though I can tell you now I would not want anyone giving me a chance just because I'm a woman, if you are good at something your sex will not come in to it. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

That was a joke really but I'm sure there are many men who have to work in predominantly female environments, as a woman who has been involved in the predominantly male environment of djing for over ten years though I can tell you now I would not want anyone giving me a chance just because I'm a woman, if you are good at something your sex will not come in to it. :thumbup:

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You’re completely missing the point though no one is getting a chance just because they’re a women. These women are better educated and more knowledgeable than most male couterparts and are only just now having the opportunity to do the same job.

Would you be happy if you weren’t being booked just because you were a woman?

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

You’re completely missing the point though no one is getting a chance just because they’re a women. These women are better educated and more knowledgeable than most male couterparts and are only just now having the opportunity to do the same job.

Would you be happy if you weren’t being booked just because you were a woman?

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Rjk said I'm just not used to them so therefore I should give them a chance, that's what I meant.

"Would you be happy if you weren’t being booked just because you were a woman?"

That's the thing, it's been the other way around for me, my brother was a dj years before me, he's been doing it all his life and been dedicated to it, I learned to dj quite quickly in comparison, I only did it to prove him wrong when he said I wouldn't be able to learn, I got as good as him and I ended up getting offers of bookings over him for the simple fact that I'm a female so more of a novelty, I don't think that's fair either, do you?

Why should the fact that you are better educated and more knowledgeable on a subject give you the right to do commentary?
You should be let nowhere near a microphone if you have a rubbish voice.

I just want the best people for the job. If that's a woman or a transgender disabled black person then brilliant.

But the shoehorning of people into roles purely because they represent a minority can't be beneficial over time.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

Why should the fact that you are better educated and more knowledgeable on a subject give you the right to do commentary?
You should be let nowhere near a microphone if you have a rubbish voice.

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Because the more you know the better you’ll be at the job, how do you define a rubbish voice even? You mean one you don’t like

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

Rjk said I'm just not used to them so therefore I should give them a chance, that's what I meant.

"Would you be happy if you weren’t being booked just because you were a woman?"

That's the thing, it's been the other way around for me, my brother was a dj years before me, he's been doing it all his life and been dedicated to it, I learned to dj quite quickly in comparison, I only did it to prove him wrong when he said I wouldn't be able to learn, I got as good as him and I ended up getting offers of bookings over him for the simple fact that I'm a female so more of a novelty, I don't think that's fair either, do you?

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No it’s not fair but it’s not like men are completely blocked from doing it. Women have been for plenty of jobs.

They couldn’t be a news presenter because people didn’t like how they sounded at the time now that sounds ridiculous, we’ll say the same about female commentators too one day.

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Originally Posted by Trigger

I just want the best people for the job. If that's a woman or a transgender disabled black person then brilliant.

But the shoehorning of people into roles purely because they represent a minority can't be beneficial over time.

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But that literally doesnt happen very often at all, where on earth are people who aren’t qualified being given jobs? People who are qualified are still being blocked in many roles and industries because they aren’t straight white males.

I couldn’t give a toss about it being a women because I want half the men to feck off because they’re shit what I don’t like is them forcing the issue just to be PC compliant

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Because the more you know the better you’ll be at the job, how do you define a rubbish voice even? You mean one you don’t like

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The pitch is important and that woman's voice was just plain annoying.
A decent voice is crucial in making the visual experience enjoyable, even in the event of a poor game.

It seems old JT might concur.... :biggrin:

https://mobile.twitter.com/hazardedi...88321020653568

Ah convicted racist, adulterer, briber of abortions, sacked from being captain of his country and all round wanker John Terry agrees with you, that’s my point ruined

Sat in a bar in Berlin watching the Portugal game and a lovely German woman was doing the commentary. I can't speak German but she sounded like she was enjoying it. She was superb!

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

But that literally doesnt happen very often at all, where on earth are people who aren’t qualified being given jobs? People who are qualified are still being blocked in many roles and industries because they aren’t straight white males.

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I said best.

I'm sure most of these people are perfectly qualified but that's not really the point when there may be better people for the job who don't get it as there happens to be too many "straight white males" already in the role.

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Originally Posted by Watamistakatomaka

Just switched Portugal v Morroco. We now have a woman commentator for it. BBC going way over the top with women pundits etc. Having listened to it for 5 mins or so, i cant stand listening to her. Switching it off ffs.😡

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Welcome to the new politically correct world , not only are woman in control of footy , every TV cop drama has women top to bottom running it and fixing crime whilst the token man is cast as an outdated alpha male , big drinker, living alone and on the take , the rest of the cast are usually of ethnic origin and disabled.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Welcome to the new politically correct world , not only are woman in control of footy , every TV cop drama has women top to bottom running it and fixing crime whilst the token man is cast as an outdated alpha male , big drinker, living alone and on the take , the rest of the cast are usually of ethnic origin and disabled.

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You left out "GAY"

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Welcome to the new politically correct world , not only are woman in control of footy , every TV cop drama has women top to bottom running it and fixing crime whilst the token man is cast as an outdated alpha male , big drinker, living alone and on the take , the rest of the cast are usually of ethnic origin and disabled.

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As much as anything else, the fact that the main character was almost always a straight white middle aged bloke for most of the last 50 years just means that that has been done to death, if you want your tv show to be a bit original then you arent gong to make a remake of inspector morse.

Men still get the vast majority of the best roles, and the majority of dialogue in films, and the highest salaries from movies, I think we can tolerate the occasional black wheelchair lesbian detective given the 50 years that have preceeded.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Welcome to the new politically correct world , not only are woman in control of footy , every TV cop drama has women top to bottom running it and fixing crime whilst the token man is cast as an outdated alpha male , big drinker, living alone and on the take , the rest of the cast are usually of ethnic origin and disabled.

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:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Welcome to the new politically correct world , not only are woman in control of footy , every TV cop drama has women top to bottom running it and fixing crime whilst the token man is cast as an outdated alpha male , big drinker, living alone and on the take , the rest of the cast are usually of ethnic origin and disabled.

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No they're don't

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Ah convicted racist, adulterer, briber of abortions, sacked from being captain of his country and all round wanker John Terry agrees with you, that’s my point ruined

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:hehe: That's funny but I don't think you get my point.

I doubt he and I have much in common but we hear the same. In this case we don't like what we hear.

I get your point and what you have in common is you’re both out of touch.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Welcome to the new politically correct world , not only are woman in control of footy , every TV cop drama has women top to bottom running it and fixing crime whilst the token man is cast as an outdated alpha male , big drinker, living alone and on the take , the rest of the cast are usually of ethnic origin and disabled.

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Jesus Christ is everyone who posts on this board Alf Garnett in disguise? It’s honestly like someone is writing all these posts as a parody.

The world is not like that at all, I’m not sure what bubble you lot live in or what media you consume but the world is not overly PC, in fact it’s still very much a straight white male dominated world.

I’ve worked in 4 different capital cities and can’t say I’ve ever noticed anything overly PC or the work place being over run by Black, gay women. Maybe it’s just the valleys that are this progressive.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I get your point and what you have in common is you’re both out of touch.

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The fact that not liking the sound of something is subjective, it's quite obvious that you do not get my point.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

No it’s not fair but it’s not like men are completely blocked from doing it. Women have been for plenty of jobs.

They couldn’t be a news presenter because people didn’t like how they sounded at the time now that sounds ridiculous, we’ll say the same about female commentators too one day.

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Ah that's ok then, as long as we balance the scales a bit is that what you're saying? because that is not equality either. :thumbup:

You’re missing the point though, no ones saying there’s anything wrong with not liking one commentator but the thread has been full of comments about all women being bad and should stick to women’s football etc.

It’s funny because there’s been a link that talked about the reaction to women news readers being the same in the 60s and people don’t seem to mind them any more.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Jesus Christ is everyone who posts on this board Alf Garnett in disguise? It’s honestly like someone is writing all these posts as a parody.

The world is not like that at all, I’m not sure what bubble you lot live in or what media you consume but the world is not overly PC, in fact it’s still very much a straight white male dominated world.

I’ve worked in 4 different capital cities and can’t say I’ve ever noticed anything overly PC or the work place being over run by Black, gay women. Maybe it’s just the valleys that are this progressive.

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Give it 20 years and Jesus will be in fact a women :biggrin:

This thread is embarrassing :hehe:

I'm hoping that a lot of the responses are wind ups

I listened to the game this afternoon on 5Live with one of the better commentators, John Murray so didn’t hear the tv commentary. Just heard it on MOTD and I thought she was fine. I’d listen to her over Jonathan Pearce all day long.

Just watched the highlights.
I could barely listen to it so had to turn it over.
I can't stand listening to someone who is out of touch with the game and talks a load of shite.


We are talking about Martin Keown, right?

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

You’re missing the point though, no ones saying there’s anything wrong with not liking one commentator but the thread has been full of comments about all women being bad and should stick to women’s football etc.

It’s funny because there’s been a link that talked about the reaction to women news readers being the same in the 60s and people don’t seem to mind them any more.

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Page 5 and you're still at it, not just replies either, mini feckin essays. Get a life!

Since you struggle to count past 4 I’m not surprised you think 2 sentances is a mini essay.

The title of the thread is "Woman Commentator"

If the OP wanted to complain about the voice of one of the male commentators would they have titled the thread "Man Commentator"

The title of the thread is "Woman Commentator"

If the OP wanted to complain about the voice of one of the male commentators would they have titled the thread "Man Commentator"?

The fact that the commentator's gender is mentioned in the title suggests that it may be a gender issue, rather than anything else. Whilst the OP's intention may not be sexist, it is certainly an unconscious bias.

Perhaps the title of the thread may have been better as "Sh1t Commentator".

(Site kept posting before I'd completed my post)

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Since you struggle to count past 4 I’m not surprised you think 2 sentances is a mini essay.

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It feels like Page 5

And if you want to be pedantic try and spell 'sentence' correctly

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Why do you think men can do "dynamic" sports but women can't?

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Pitch, tone, anything involving use of frenetic voices. I'm not going to debate or discuss. I employ over 250 women (60%) of my workforce because they are good at their (highly technical) jobs.

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Originally Posted by jamieccfc

Give it 20 years and Jesus will be in fact a women :biggrin:

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And in the next couple James Bond will be, Janice Bond maybe?

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Originally Posted by Joe Gillis

And if you want to be pedantic try and spell 'sentence' correctly

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Shouldn't that be "try to spell pedantic correctly"?

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

And in the next couple James Bond will be, Janice Bond maybe?

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Like this woman you mean? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violette_Szabo

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Originally Posted by Auntie Andy

Sorry I missed your post hun, I’ve been in the kitchen cooking tea whilst multitasking by ironing at the same time.

Off to bed now as I’ve been ordered by my master.

Blessed be the fruit.

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Blessed be the fruit..., great line 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’ve started calling Mrs Canton - OfStraight. It’s not going down too well