Warnock comes across as a tory and a xenophobe

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Originally Posted by jamieccfc

Jesus wept, how is it so difficult for people to understand that nobody gave a toss if he was pro brexit it is what he said and the manner of it :shrug:

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Jesus wept!!!! That’s what I’m talking about. When he said “ to hell with the rest of the world” you and I and everyone else on this board don’t know what context he said it in. If he literally meant he didn’t like anyone from abroad, then he’s there to be shot at. If he meant it in a way that the rest of the world should keep their noses out of Brexit, then that’s different.
As usual, the kicking boys on here steam in without knowing the facts.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Jesus wept!!!! That’s what I’m talking about. When he said “ to hell with the rest of the world” you and I and everyone else on this board don’t know what context he said it in. If he literally meant he didn’t like anyone from abroad, then he’s there to be shot at. If he meant it in a way that the rest of the world should keep their noses out of Brexit, then that’s different.
As usual, the kicking boys on here steam in without knowing the facts.

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We do know the context because he said it in a press conference in front of cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP0dmcCKE_0

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Jesus wept!!!! That’s what I’m talking about. When he said “ to hell with the rest of the world” you and I and everyone else on this board don’t know what context he said it in. If he literally meant he didn’t like anyone from abroad, then he’s there to be shot at. If he meant it in a way that the rest of the world should keep their noses out of Brexit, then that’s different.
As usual, the kicking boys on here steam in without knowing the facts.

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I don’t get this “it’s just a throw away comment” us leaving effects the rest of the world so why should they keep their noses out?

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I still can’t believe someone thinks everyone who voted brexit is “anti foreigner” and thinks that it’s ok.

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I know.

Most of the people who voted to leave, wanted the UK to be able to negotiate fairer trade deals with emerging markets and was nothing to do with being pissed off with hearing foreign accents in Greggs.

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Originally Posted by jamieccfc

I don’t get this “it’s just a throw away comment” us leaving effects the rest of the world so why should they keep their noses out?

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According to Croesy, nobody outside of the UK gives a jot. They’re all laughing at us. Which is it?

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Originally Posted by lardy

We do know the context because he said it in a press conference in front of cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP0dmcCKE_0

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You seem an intelligent lad, so why act dumb? You don’t know the context he meant that in. Neither do I. Have you asked him personally?

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

You seem an intelligent lad, so why act dumb? You don’t know the context he meant that in. Neither do I. Have you asked him personally?

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Out of context means you see a sentence without any others. Here we can see the whole thing.

It's pretty clear he's saying Britain doesn't need the EU or anyone else for that matter. I don't even know what "the rest of the world should keep their noses out of brexit" is supposed to mean.

Fwiw Warnock will be on the bastion of left wing journalism the talk sport breakfast show so I would imagine that they'll bring it up then.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

And a little Englander

Should keep his mouth shut on such matters , said he was an admirerer of may before , wouldn't be surprised if he was a udm Thatcher lover

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He is entitled to his opinion even though if I strongly disagree with him!

However, as the manager of a premier league football club with an international playing squad, international management team and diverse fan base it was a stupid thing to say and stupid timing.

Funny how the uniter fans appears to be doing his upmost to break things again.

Would be fitting to have some EU flags down at the CCS for the next game.

At least the world will realise we aren't all of the same mind set.

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

He is entitled to his opinion even though if I strongly disagree with him!

However, as the manager of a premier league football club with an international playing squad, international management team and diverse fan base it was a stupid thing to say and stupid timing.

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Tend to agree but he is 70 and nobody is going to stop him so why make such a deal about it. I'd rather him entertaining me with his quips and outbursts than listening to some squares at the FA and the PC brigade.

Keep it up boss:wave:

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Originally Posted by Cretin Hop

Tend to agree but he is 70 and nobody is going to stop him so why make such a deal about it. I'd rather him entertaining me with his quips and outbursts than listening to some squares at the FA and the PC brigade.

Keep it up boss:wave:

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So if it has a negative effect on Cardiff city your ok with that?

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Originally Posted by dml1954

How you deduce all that from what he has said/done in the last seven days is beyond me. Given his background (working class from a mining/heavy industrial city in Yorkshire) he is much more likely to be a left wing/Socialist supporter than anything else. As many, if not more, Labour suppporters want brexit and are anti-foreigner than Conservative ones. What difference does it make anyway, if we started vetting people who enter the area or worked for the club based on their political leanings or moral beliefs, the games would be held in a half empty stadium and particularly, your seat would definately be empty.

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You are totally incorrect. In the EU Referendum around 60% of Labour supporters voted Remain. That figure has now increased according to recent polling to at least 70% Remain. In contrast around 75% of Conservative voters wanted to Brexit. So in summary most Labour supporters are a Remainers and most Tories are Leavers.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

You are totally incorrect. In the EU Referendum around 60% of Labour supporters voted Remain. That figure has now increased according to recent polling to at least 70% Remain. In contrast around 75% of Conservative voters wanted to Brexit. So in summary most Labour supporters are a Remainers and most Tories are Leavers.

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I think stating that I am totally incorrect is over stating it a tad. It is my opinion and you have yours. There can be no doubt that many Labour supporters backed Brexit. Opinion polls are notoriously unreliable as well.

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Peter Mandelson and John Reid were members and others such as Alistair Darling and Alan Milburn were thought to have had links and several Union leaders including Bob Crow were also members. The former Communist leading light - Andrew Murray - was appointed as an advisor to the Labour Party by Jeremy Corbyn. There are probably several Marxist or former Marxist politicians who are not far removed from the Communist Party including the Labour Leader and his shadow Chancellor.

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Have these people denied free speech and disagreed with democracy?

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Originally Posted by dml1954

I think stating that I am totally incorrect is over stating it a tad. It is my opinion and you have yours. There can be no doubt that many Labour supporters backed Brexit. Opinion polls are notoriously unreliable as well.

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You are wrong. It’s not my opinion. It’s fact that 60% of Labour supporters voted Remain in 2016. Do some checks and you will find this out for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

You are totally incorrect. In the EU Referendum around 60% of Labour supporters voted Remain. That figure has now increased according to recent polling to at least 70% Remain. In contrast around 75% of Conservative voters wanted to Brexit. So in summary most Labour supporters are a Remainers and most Tories are Leavers.

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Or that while the national result of the referendum was relatively close, with 52% voting Leave and 48% voting Remain, a much larger majority of parliamentary seats voted to Leave – with 64% of seats in Great Britain voting Leave

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

You are totally incorrect. In the EU Referendum around 60% of Labour supporters voted Remain. That figure has now increased according to recent polling to at least 70% Remain. In contrast around 75% of Conservative voters wanted to Brexit. So in summary most Labour supporters are a Remainers and most Tories are Leavers.

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70% of Conservative constituencies and 60% of Labour constituencies voted to Leave in the EU referendum.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

70% of Conservative constituencies and 60% of Labour constituencies voted to Leave in the EU referendum.

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Yep but a lot of those Labour leave constituencies have now switched to Remain according to all recent polling whereas the Tory held constituencies are still Leave supporting.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Yep but a lot of those Labour leave constituencies have now switched to Remain according to all recent polling whereas the Tory held constituencies are still Leave supporting.

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The polling before the referendum suggested a massive victory for remain

They are so inaccurate it’s almost pointless

I notice the only people that actually cared what he said are remain voting people.

For the 52% it’s a non story

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

The polling before the referendum suggested a massive victory for remain

They are so inaccurate it’s almost pointless

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No it didn’t. The polls were showing Leave leads in the run up to the Referendum.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

I notice the only people that actually cared what he said are remain voting people.

For the 52% it’s a non story

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Well and all the national media

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Originally Posted by ken smith

Most of the people who voted to leave, wanted the UK to be able to negotiate fairer trade deals with emerging markets and was nothing to do with being pissed off with hearing foreign accents in Greggs.

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Interesting. Where did you get that information?

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

I notice the only people that actually cared what he said are remain voting people.

For the 52% it’s a non story

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That’s because the people who voted out tend to be imbeciles :yikes:




Only joking :hide:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Well and all the national media

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The media will care about anything that will get a reaction

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Originally Posted by dml1954

I think stating that I am totally incorrect is over stating it a tad. It is my opinion and you have yours. There can be no doubt that many Labour supporters backed Brexit.

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Hang on a minute, I thought Brexit wasn't political?

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

The media will care about anything that will get a reaction

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If it gets a reaction people must care about it surely?

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

If it gets a reaction people must care about it surely?

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Yes those remain voting people that will bite on anything pro-brexit.

For the 52% and the electorate that couldn’t bother to vote, a non-story

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

I notice the only people that actually cared what he said are remain voting people.

For the 52% it’s a non story

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...and those who didn't vote in the referendum who just believe that our manager would have been much better off making one of his light-hearted quips or just keep his personal views on such a divisive topic to himself when he's representing the club.

The club obviously agree with that sentiment too, having had to release their own statement to distance themselves from his comments. It's a bit embarrassing really.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

Yes those remain voting people that will bite on anything pro-brexit.

For the 52% and the electorate that couldn’t bother to vote, a non-story

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Wrong.

According to some on this thread, all the white wealthy men in their 70’s are to blame for the leave vote. There must be a lot of them to make up 52% of the vote.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Interesting. Where did you get that information?

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Are you suggesting the majority who voted to leave are racist?

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Originally Posted by ken smith

Most of the people who voted to leave, wanted the UK to be able to negotiate fairer trade deals with emerging markets and was nothing to do with being pissed off with hearing foreign accents in Greggs.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Interesting. Where did you get that information?

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It must have been on the ballot paper.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It must have been on the ballot paper.

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The leave/remain spats on here are slowly rising to rebrand proportions 😂

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Are you suggesting the majority who voted to leave are racist?

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I’m not suggesting anything. I’m merely asking where a boldly-stated piece of ‘information’ came from.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It must have been on the ballot paper.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I’m not suggesting anything. I’m merely asking where a boldly-stated piece of ‘information’ came from.

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Would it surprise you if that information was correct?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Not really, a massively large majority of 70year old wealthy white men in this country are Tory voters, therefore it shouldn't be a surprise that Neil Warnock is, if indeed he is

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Just like Jeremy Corbyn.

Sounds pretty racist to me.

Shouldn’t this be moved to the political department ?I know Warnock made the comments but it is still a political debate ..

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Shouldn’t this be moved to the political department ?I know Warnock made the comments but it is still a political debate ..

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agreed Jimmy