That's why I said they should break-away and run their own affairs, and then they can pay each other what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
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That's why I said they should break-away and run their own affairs, and then they can pay each other what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
They can pay each other what they want now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Don't you think it wouldn't make sense to split away from them now after the most succesful and most watched tournement in the history of the womens' game?
So out of all the female players in the world, you only want 23 of them to recieve equal pay? That is a very bizarre viewpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy gestede
The world cup is the big money spinner and they lost out on $30m due to being controlled by FIFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Where have I said that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
How does that relate to what you're replying to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
So what USWNT want is equal pay with their male counterparts at World Cups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I can certainly see their argument based on their their comparative revenues they achieve.
It should NOT be based on results as evidently the USMNT have got a lot of catching up to do compared with other countries.
USWNT have taken a lead role in developing the women's game, hence their dominance.
The crux of the matter, however is the total revenue achieved at each gender's World Cup and relative share from those.
If USWNT want the same pay as their male counterparts, then that needs to come from the revenue achieved at the Women's World Cup. Their arguments will then be with the other Women's federations, as their percentage will be significantly higher than the winner of the men's World Cup.
The sums available to the other women's teams will be less.
Ultimately, USWNT want a bigger slice of a smaller cake.
Development of the women's game is a separate issue and should not cloud a potentially legal issue.
No. They want equal wages for playing for the national team.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
Don't the men get higher bonuses during qualification because the USSF can recoup a larger sum of money if they qualify for a world cup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Show us where you just googled this mate, ****ing shameless :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
As mentioned numerous times in this thread the prize pot is approximately 13.3 bigger for the men.Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy gestede
You are not allowed to talk sense in this thread :redcard:Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
FIFA don't pay the USWNT players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Who does?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
The national associations/federations.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
Is that why you've posted non stop nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I can't believe people have been arguing for 4 pages and didn't even realise this. Why take such a strong opinion on something that isn't fully understood?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Out of interest, which of us will be affected should these American players earn more money?
I can't understand why some in this thread are so passionate.
Someone will be along shortly to shout economics at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Equal play? Did they play against the men?
In what other industry other than sport do women get paid the same as men when they don't compete with the men?
Does Theresa May preside over the women's parliament?
Is Cressida Dick the Chief of the Metropolitan Policewomen only?
Does J.K.Rowling sell books only to women?
Ridiculous argument.
Is it still a ridiculous argument when the women bring in more revenue than the men?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gifaffe
Why would it bother you if the women were Paid the same as men?
What?! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gifaffe
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gifaffe
For much this thread we were talking about the World Cup comparisons. Surely FIFA would be in charge of the purse strings for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
If the federations pay, then surely it is quite simple.
The team should get an equal percentage of total receipts, irrespective of gender.
If USWNT generate more total receipts (gate money, merchandise, TV and advertising rights, etc.) than their male counterparts, then the should receive more money than their male counterparts.
That's great, what's the problem?
The thread is about equal pay equal play which is about the wages the USWNT receive. They receive much less than the men despite bringing in more revenue.
There is a side point that it would be good if the women’s prize money was increased, but not to the level of the men’s World Cup. I’m not talking about that but I don’t think increasing the prize money would be a bad thing.
You might not be talking about that, but many others were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
The women's game outside of the USA, may be careful what they wish for.
It really is down to the relative success of each team or individual.
That applies to virtually every sport.
Women's football wanting equal pay with their male counterparts is ridiculous.
It's a bit like the Solihull Moors players wanting the same money as Man City players.
They both play a game of football for the same number of minutes.
However, each team should be paid the same percentage of total receipts, irrespective of gender and capability.
USWNT will gain, the majority of the women's game will lose out.
According to this they had different types of deals, per season and per match.
http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/art...rcent-less-men
They could also request the splitting of TV & sponsorship deals, to find out the true worth each team. At the moment one side is benefitting more than the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
If that's all correct what is the point ofthe court case? Just seems a comlpete waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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It wouldn't. What bothers me is that if I want a pay rise I either get promotion, change job or renegotiate my contract with my employer instead of bitching about it on social media. It pisses me off when I hear male footballers moan in the same way claiming they're some sort of slave, for instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy gestede
In the case in point, it sounds like they may need a better agent.