Robert Glatzel - How soon can we get rid of him?

He isn't getting much service, or more to the point players around him. He can't just have that though. You can't even say that it's not coming off for him because he hasn't shown anything. I kept an eye on him and his reactions and snail like and he doesn't take up good positions or step off his man like Mitrovic did to Morrison this evening. I do have my concerns over his footballing ability. Madine wouldn't have done any worse than Glatzel over the last five games or whatever it is and he'd be getting slaughtered (although rightly so as he's shit)

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Originally Posted by Bluebird909

What, direct football?

We signed a striker who's 6ft3 and not only does he not win headers, but he barely challenges for them (he didn't attempt to flick any of our long throws tonight, and every time we went long in the second half, we deliberately aimed for Paterson).

What service did Mitrovic get for them? I'd argue even less than Glatzel got but he still made himself a handful, protected the ball, played in others and bagged himself a goal.

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He was getting the ball to protect it

I must admit that he looked a bit slow tonight to be frank and despite his obvious talent, I wonder whether he can speed up enough for this level. He's got to do exactly what he's doing, but a lot faster .

What did it for me was that "header" from a cross towards the end of the game that bounced tamely three feet wide.
We were right behind it. It was his chance to win the match. He barely touched it. It glnaced his head rather than him heading it.
He's not up to it.

I commented to friends of mine around me that we should get t-shirts made with "I saw Robert Glatzel score" on them.

Glatzel has shown some nice touches on the rare occasions that the ball is played to his feet, but we haven't been able to take advantage of them.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Glatzel has shown some nice touches on the rare occasions that the ball is played to his feet, but we haven't been able to take advantage of them.

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He needs to get on the end of something, he can look good with his back to goal (He doesn't) until the cows come home, it's not going to make a blind bit of difference as he isn't going to get any support. His only hope is getting his big toe onto the ball in the six yard box, that's the only sniff he's going to get. I think Warnock thought that he'd bought a 'Big lad' who was aggressive and powerful in the air and strong-He doesn't seem to any of those things-Oh dear.

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Originally Posted by shimmy

nice ****ing support dickhead

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He should have scored with his header chance last night. It'll come. Hopefully.

Pint of Peroni please.

Only time I saw him get on near the ball is when he had to run 60 yards back into our half.

The service we are giving him is shocking

He’s not up to it.

Simple as.

I can't see what Glatzel offers over Big Ken. In fact, I'd go as far as saying Big Ken had that little bit more about him.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

If anyone bites to this obvious troll bait you’re ****ing thick as shit.

Just don’t.

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I certainly won't be biting as I want to be clever like you :wink:

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Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68

Give him time to settle in FFS.

Pint of Peroni please!

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IPA for me :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by stan butler

Feck off cock chops

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Why do you always sit on the fence?

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Originally Posted by B. Oddie

I can't see what Glatzel offers over Big Ken. In fact, I'd go as far as saying Big Ken had that little bit more about him.

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He cant be compared to Ken. On current evidence hes nowhere near that standard.

The worrying thing is I dont see what he offers over bogle and madine.

Same horse,different jockey.To be fair to Glatzel he's not the first striker to struggle in our system.For me this thread is asking the wrong question.

We aren't playing well and not supporting him up top.
Shown glimpses of what he's about.
He will come food IMO.

The only positive for the OP in this thread if Glatzel does score 10 is, he’ll only have to get 1 pint for Wales Bales and Ronnie Bird

Maybe it's the players who are not up to him. If Messi was up front for us he'd end up like Glatzel.
Hes used to teams passing and quality balls, not hit and hope.

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

Maybe it's the players who are not up to him. If Messi was up front for us he'd end up like Glatzel.
Hes used to teams passing and quality balls, not hit and hope.

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Nonsense. If Messi played upfront for us he wouldnt take 3 or 4 touches to get the ball under control.

RG is hopeless. He’s worse than Rudy Gestede was. At least Gestede could win headers even if his control was shit.

Earlier in the season I thought Glatzel had a bit about him and he'd do alright if his luck turned a little.

Now I think he's another of Warnock's poor signings. He looked genuinely awful last night.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

The only positive for the OP in this thread if Glatzel does score 10 is, he’ll only have to get 1 pint for Wales Bales and Ronnie Bird

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:sherlock:

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Earlier in the season I thought Glatzel had a bit about him and he'd do alright if his luck turned a little.

Now I think he's another of Warnock's poor signings. He looked genuinely awful last night.

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He probably is very poor but I can't help feeling sorry for him in that Cardiff does seem to be the graveyard for forwards, partly due to the dire supply they get.

I think it’s the way we play, and lack of involvement. By the time he gets a touch its the first one in ages. Everyone sings Danny danny ward but what did offer more than Glatzel? Always done my head in how much Danny wards name got sung. No one would sing for Zohore and hes twice the player.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

I think it’s the way we play, and lack of involvement. By the time he gets a touch its the first one in ages. Everyone sings Danny danny ward but what did offer more than Glatzel? Always done my head in how much Danny wards name got sung. No one would sing for Zohore and hes twice the player.

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Fans did sing for Zohore, Ward is popular because he makes a nuisance of himself and shows a determination that doesn't seem prevelant from our other strikers. As for Zohore, he's better than Glatzel, that's not difficult because he looks to me like he can't play, but i don't think Zohore is up to much if i'm being honest.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

I think it’s the way we play, and lack of involvement. By the time he gets a touch its the first one in ages. Everyone sings Danny danny ward but what did offer more than Glatzel? Always done my head in how much Danny wards name got sung. No one would sing for Zohore and hes twice the player.

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If you can't see what Danny Ward brings compared to Glatzel then football isn't for you son.

It doesn't matter what system you play Glatzel just cannot do the basics. Takes several touches to get the ball under control, by which point a defender has stolen it off him.

He's shocking.

It's time Warnock took him out of the firing line and gave Ward the sort of run in the team he's given Glatzel.

Do you think ward could score a hat trick against Bayern? 😜😂

It’s the style of football. He’s said in an interview the difference is stark. Germany is much more technical, over here it’s faster and physical. I think he needs to adapt, but I don’t think he gets much help.

Football isn’t for me? :hehe: ****ing hell alright mate

Oh so he got a hat trick against Bayern in a one off game, where Bayern went through the motions and still won. Means **** all now to Cardiff City. I remember Darcy Blake marking Wayne Rooney out of a game once too. Where's he these days?

Glatzels control is shit so your "Germany is more technical point" is redundant.

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Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86

Do you think ward could score a hat trick against Bayern? ����

It’s the style of football. He’s said in an interview the difference is stark. Germany is much more technical, over here it’s faster and physical. I think he needs to adapt, but I don’t think he gets much help.

Football isn’t for me? :hehe: ****ing hell alright mate

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Let's be honest. City ten to just hoof it up front rather than pass it through midfield. It's very Cro-Magnon.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

If you can't see what Danny Ward brings compared to Glatzel then football isn't for you son.

It doesn't matter what system you play Glatzel just cannot do the basics. Takes several touches to get the ball under control, by which point a defender has stolen it off him.

He's shocking.

It's time Warnock took him out of the firing line and gave Ward the sort of run in the team he's given Glatzel.

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I'd rather Flint up top than Glatzel, especially the way we play, and i am being serious. Ward may get his chance now, but he isn't the answer, is he? I've never known anything quite like it. Zohore went from serious prospect to looking dis-interested and lacking urgency, Madine must have had some qualities-Surely? Glatzel looks terrible, he doesn't look like he can play. Vassell is ****ed, Bogle seems to be used in the same way Tomlin is, another player brought in by Warnock who he doesn't trust. It's an absolute joke.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I'd rather Flint up top than Glatzel, especially the way we play, and i am being serious. Ward may get his chance now, but he isn't the answer, is he? I've never known anything quite like it. Zohore went from serious prospect to looking dis-interested and lacking urgency, Madine must have had some qualities-Surely? Glatzel looks terrible, he doesn't look like he can play. Vassell is ****ed, Bogle seems to be used in the same way Tomlin is, another player brought in by Warnock who he doesn't trust. It's an absolute joke.

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I think Ward is alright tbh. He can finish and certainly links play better than Glatzel.

I used to hate Rudy Gestede but compared to Glatzel he's like Teddy Sheringham ffs.

I'd go with Ward. Thing is with Glatzel, he's not showing a thing, he really is poor.

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Originally Posted by Bluebird909

• Can't control the ball
• Doesn't win headers
• Slow
• Finishes as well as Cornelius.

If he scores 10 goals this season, I'll buy everyone who replies to this thread a pint.

Bogle did more in 20 minutes.

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He makes me want to leave the EU with no deal, just so he can be deported back to Germany for crimes against sport.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I'd go with Ward. Thing is with Glatzel, he's not showing a thing, he really is poor.

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He's not shown anything mate. I get what people are saying about the service but he's not shown any glimpse of anything. He's not good in the air, he's not fast, he's not linking play, hes not got clever movement, he's snatching at chances.

Honestly struggling to see what he brings to the the table.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

He's not shown anything mate. I get what people are saying about the service but he's not shown any glimpse of anything. He's not good in the air, he's not fast, he's not linking play, hes not got clever movement, he's snatching at chances.

Honestly struggling to see what he brings to the the table.

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You make a good point. Ok, the service and support is shit, we all get that, So i suppose you look for the next best thing-What are his attributes. I can forgive him a lack of goals but not the inability to control the ball, head the ball with any purpose and stand up in the challenge. His reactions are way off as well. All of this bullshit that he's adjusting doesn't wash. He'd be showing something by now.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

You make a good point. Ok, the service and support is shit, we all get that, So i suppose you look for the next best thing-What are his attributes. I can forgive him a lack of goals but not the inability to control the ball, head the ball with any purpose and stand up in the challenge. His reactions are way off as well. All of this bullshit that he's adjusting doesn't wash. He'd be showing something by now.

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His record isnt great either. Most of his goals are in a reserve league ffs.

People on here were laughing about how we got 8m for Zohore. I bet the Krauts were in hysterics afor getting 5.5m for him.

Austin started for West Brom today.

Robson Kanu scores off the bench.

Zohore not in the squad. Didn’t notice him in the “missing players” on FlashScores either so doesn’t look like he’s injured.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I'd rather Flint up top than Glatzel, especially the way we play, and i am being serious. Ward may get his chance now, but he isn't the answer, is he? I've never known anything quite like it. Zohore went from serious prospect to looking dis-interested and lacking urgency, Madine must have had some qualities-Surely? Glatzel looks terrible, he doesn't look like he can play. Vassell is ****ed, Bogle seems to be used in the same way Tomlin is, another player brought in by Warnock who he doesn't trust. It's an absolute joke.

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Flint's feet are like Spoonbills' beaks. It's amazing that so many footballers can earn incredible money when they are so very limited.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

He cant be compared to Ken. On current evidence hes nowhere near that standard.

The worrying thing is I dont see what he offers over bogle and madine.

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I agree that I’d like to see more from him and that Bogle appears to offer something similar, but he is still light years ahead of Madine.

At least he has scored!