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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Do you believe what the media prints is irrelevant and makes little difference to how people think? If so, please get help.
You’re becoming paranoid.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
I reckon cardiff north will go tory and gower in swansea
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Bizarre that a seat that rushes to announce early because the decision is a foregone conclusion ends up with a change of party.
Long way to go etc etc, but even to the untrained eye, a Tory MP in a mining town just seems bonkers.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Turkies have well and truly voted for Christmas today.
All about Brexit which they think will make their country / area better.
Because majority Tory governments have great form for looking after working class areas don’t they...
With a liar leading the way
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Jordi Culé
Agree totally. What the EU referendum and this general election has shown is the generation who grew experience peace, love and understanding in the 60s are now racist, uncaring and selfish cuunts now.
It's too early to make judgements yet, but if the exit poll is anything like right, then I'm not sure the result can be "blamed" on one generation. For an outcome like the predicted one to happen, I would have thought most age groups would have had to have favoured the Conservatives and there might have been more than expected remain voters who thought the Referendum vote had to be honoured no matter what.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
Bizarre that a seat that rushes to announce early because the decision ends up with a change of party.
Long way to go etc etc, but even to the untrained eye, a Tory MP in a mining town just seems bonkers.
Tory mp in bridgend with the poverty they have there , do they really think boris is going to help them out there ?
Basically we had a crap leader and in these areas where there are very few immigrants they voted brexit
But it's like turkeys voting for xmas and they are going to get a right stuffing
And blame europe and immigrants again
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
superfeathers
Turkies have well and truly voted for Christmas today.
All about Brexit which they think will make their country / area better.
Because majority Tory governments have great form for looking after working class areas don’t they...
With a liar leading the way
You got it
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Laughable sayin lots of support for labour policies.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Boris is a joke. I don’t think he will be good for the county, however
Corbyn was unelectable, and his polices only looked good to those living in a wonderland
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
You’re becoming paranoid.
Glad you believe that people always know what to think and there's little need for the printed media.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Q
Laughable sayin lots of support for labour policies.
According to who?
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
According to who?
So far - the electorate.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
According to who?
???? VOTERS
That was an easy one to answer. Labour won’t recover from this for the next election either.. to big a gap. 10 years of tories coming up.
So pretty clear. Poor polices don’t win votes.
Listen to the labour MP’s on your TV... they are saying Corbyn was the issue on the door step. Corbyn and his polices
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Q
???? VOTERS
That was an easy one to answer. Labour won’t recover from this for the next election either.. to big a gap. 10 years of tories coming up.
So pretty clear. Poor polices don’t win votes.
Listen to the labour MP’s on your TV... they are saying Corbyn was the issue on the door step. Corbyn and his polices
Because of his policies or because people have been swayed by the media opinions on his policies, especially tax evasion and making the most wealthy pay?
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Labour candidate for stoke is fuming , fully expects to lose his seat and blames corbyn and his lot for the heavy defeat
And in my opinion , he is right
Together with the leavers from non immigration areas that voted tory
Shame on the lot of them , they will get stuffed by the very party they voted for
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Because of his policies or because people have been swayed by the media opinions on his policies, especially tax evasion and making the most wealthy pay?
You seem to think very little of the public's ability to think for themselves.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
You seem to think very little of the public's ability to think for themselves.
I do.
If a bomb goes off somewhere, we're reliant on the news provided.
I believe we've been convinced, as a country, that tax is bad, we don't want to pay it, but we should have top public services for nothing.
Anyone believing the political news network is an unbiased, honest account are idiots.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
It seems at election time people prefer to hear the vague, jingoistic battle cries even if they're led by a bigoted muppet. Britain is a conservative country; it takes more of an effort to get Labour in and it seems a lot more has to be aligned for that to happen.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
I think brexit has changed everything its fecked the labour party as many of its core voters are bigots and uneducated fools who have voted for a party ready to shit on them
And thanks to them and corbyn this country is fecked
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
It seems at election time people prefer to hear the vague, jingoistic battle cries even if they're led by a bigoted muppet. Britain is a conservative country; it takes more of an effort to get Labour in and it seems a lot more has to be aligned for that to happen.
Rumours are cardiff north is going tory
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Rumours are cardiff north is going tory
That's disappointing but not all that surprising. Tories often win there and did in 2015 (I think).
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Do you believe what the media prints is irrelevant and makes little difference to how people think? If so, please get help.
No of course it is not irrelevant.
But I think that many people have more sense than you think.l99
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I do.
If a bomb goes off somewhere, we're reliant on the news provided.
I believe we've been convinced, as a country, that tax is bad, we don't want to pay it, but we should have top public services for nothing.
Anyone believing the political news network is an unbiased, honest account are idiots.
I think you are miles off on a lot of this. I'd not dismiss anyone who watches/reads the news as an idiot. I'd also suggest that to assume that you've got the insight to see the bias but the great unwashed do not is a bit rich, too.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Labour candidate for stoke is fuming , fully expects to lose his seat and blames corbyn and his lot for the heavy defeat
And in my opinion , he is right
I thought he spoke brilliantly. Answered the question, not afraid to state his position, was concise, clear and targeted. I wish all politicians would do that and not just repeat their pre-prepared soundbites.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
It seems at election time people prefer to hear the vague, jingoistic battle cries even if they're led by a bigoted muppet. Britain is a conservative country; it takes more of an effort to get Labour in and it seems a lot more has to be aligned for that to happen.
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
I thought he spoke brilliantly. Answered the question, not afraid to state his position, was concise, clear and targeted. I wish all politicians would do that and not just repeat their pre-prepared soundbites.
Female on now used to work for the labour party , has slated corbyn for anti semitism , stupid spending plans , bullying culture in the party , has got to go tomorrow and take momentum with him
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That's utter shit. There's lots of support for Labour policies but the media and the establishment runs the country.
So its all the fault of the media?bollocks!
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
I think brexit has changed everything its fecked the labour party as many of its core voters are bigots and uneducated fools who have voted for a party ready to shit on them
And thanks to them and corbyn this country is fecked
Calling half the country idiots and fools, as yourself and many others have done for the last three years, (Steve Coogan, speaking this morning, is a prime example) merely entrenched the Brexiteers views. Allied with a leader who was totally unelectable then it seems that Labour has got everything it deserved.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Former soft tory mp Heidi Allen has just commented
What we have is a very dangerous situation , a tory party purged of its liberal side leaving a hard right conservative party with a fragmented , ineffective opposition
I think its thatcherism all over again and what kept her in was a weakened opposition
Maybe we have to accept , those of us who don't vote tory that the only way to defeat them is to form a coalition party made up of liberals , labour , independents , basically the sixty percent who don't vote tory
Either that or the labour party has a root and branch reform from top to bottom
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
It seems at election time people prefer to hear the vague, jingoistic battle cries even if they're led by a bigoted muppet. Britain is a conservative country; it takes more of an effort to get Labour in and it seems a lot more has to be aligned for that to happen.
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Originally Posted by
Optimistic Nick
I thought he spoke brilliantly. Answered the question, not afraid to state his position, was concise, clear and targeted. I wish all politicians would do that and not just repeat their pre-prepared soundbites.
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Originally Posted by
Joe Gillis
Calling half the country idiots and fools, as yourself and many others have done for the last three years, (Steve Coogan, speaking this morning, is a prime example) merely entrenched the Brexiteers views. Allied with a leader who was totally unelectable then it seems that Labour has got everything it deserved.
Well I am afraid that the truth hurts ......people who are going to face the full force of free market capitalism have become turkeys voting for xmas
They are going to get shafted and they will face the consequences
That's a combination of utter stupidity and an awful leader
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Heidi Allen
What are the working class people of Darlington going to do when brexit has been done and they face financial hardship under the tories ?
Turn to universal credit ?
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Tory vote has only increased by three percent
What's won if for them is the collapse of the labour vote by eleven perce
What a disaster for corbyn
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
A right sort that Heidi Allen.
I note the Tory Party are now massively odds-on to take the Beast of Bolsover Dennis Skinner's seat which he's held since 1970. It has never returned anything other than a Labour candidate. Even in 1983 under Michael Foot's leadership when the party was hammered Skinner held it with a 14,000 majority.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
****ing mess. Didn't expect this and makes me evaluate my future. I don't feel like I have anything in common with the typical English voter. I'm devastated.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Leigh, Labour since 1922, now Tory. A Welsh equivalent would be somewhere like Merthyr going the same way.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Why the hell is Wales turning blue? Dear God.
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
Critically labours 4th election defeat in a row?
Blair type moderate Labour not liked ?.
Labour winning multi culture urban areas ?
Workington man is a Tory ?
What next Momentum more destruction of a party I supported for so long you let the loonies free and brought us Boris majority ,thanks .
Some good news DUP are a spent force .
Wales turning blue ?
Seat of leigh labour since the 1920 's.
Yep the Labour project gone so well .
At least it keeps its London elitism , that won't serve them well in the North or Midlands .
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Bye bye England/Wales. Full of retards.
It's embarrassing isn't it?
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Tory vote has only increased by three percent
What's won if for them is the collapse of the labour vote by eleven perce
What a disaster for corbyn
Even worse Sludge
Caroline Flint has lost Don Valley
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
And now Jo Swinson has gone!!
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Re: Exit Poll Its PM Boris with 80 odd majority
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Originally Posted by
Q
Laughable sayin lots of support for labour policies.
It's not funny. People are too stupid to vote for policies they like.
It's the same here. People thought they hated "Obamacare". Until they found out it was the Affordable Care Act and it was where they got their healthcare plan from.